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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Try telling a fifteen year old that climate change is a myth?

Rich Manzer's avatar

Went to a recent Jeffco CO School Board meeting to support Jeffco Kids First and keeping boys out of girls’ sports. There were presentations by both sides for and against this abomination. There were also a couple of green initiatives proposed by students for their particular schools. I can tell you those kids are fully indoctrinated! Undoing the green religion is, I believe, going to be much more difficult than the trans religion.

53rd Chapter's avatar

It is every bit a religion yet is not subject to First Amendment constraints. Either we can talk or they can shut up.

Science is Political 2.0's avatar

No.. all it will take is living through one Hurricane (I have but I knew better) that TRANS is much more damaging to society..long term. OH YEAH, the YOUNG PEOPLE are indoctrinated.. TIKTOK

Rich Manzer's avatar

I agree as the trans religion is an insidious ideology and is robbing kids of their childhood, and as disconcerting as puberty is, their coming of age years, which I would argue is some of the most formidable years of life. The damage that it will bring to society in the coming years is going to be devastating in many respects. My point is that because the green religion is not as black and white as the trans religion it will be harder to attenuate. We all agree that we love clean air, water and a world without pollution it is not the existential threat that the left makes out to be. We must be good stewards of our environment. That’s clear. But the nebulous interpretation of how to achieve a “green” world is going to make it harder to define than “what is a woman” and “what is a man”. One is easy to define, what makes a green world and how we go about it is more complex, in the minds of these children and why I think it’s a bigger challenge to convince them that climate has always been changing is going to be harder to undo.

SR Miller's avatar

🤔 “Climate Change" IS REAL: climate is constantly changing - a few million years ago the Sahara once was verdant green, before that Earth went through Ice Ball phases, more recently folks were skating on the Thames during medieval times (Frost Fairs) and here in the states the flourishing civilization of the Anasazi went tits up (gender neutral example 😉) due to climate change before industrialization. There’s climate change that oscillates due to "events" like the Maunder minimums and Milankovitch cycles. There’s climate change that is a very real probability that even if we (hoomans) are affecting the present climate to warm up, in the not too distant future it will be getting much colder, cold enough that we could be looking at expanding glaciation.

What I am not hysterically sold on is that we, hoomans, are catastrophically impacting the present or near future world wide climate. All it takes is one or two active volcanos to seriously vent/blow/create a hole into the stratosphere ( Hunga Tonga) to impact world wide weather in ways we hoomans only wish we could.

There’s talk of the Gulf Stream weakening in our present time. Is this because of hooman meddling with the climate or is the Gulf Stream weakening impacting climate change. 🤷‍♀️

JIM WHARRY's avatar

I agree. The planet earth is very active and is in a constant state of change. Look at the little ice age, we just came of that less than 200 years ago. When this old earth stops changing, we will be in trouble for sure.

SR Miller's avatar

And now I read, just today, that new simulations indicate that our galaxy, THE Milky Way, will not crash into our neighboring Andromeda galaxy - it’s a “coin flip." It was bad enough that Pluto got downgraded, now this. Today you say when the climate stops changing we’re gonna be in deep 💩 💩- and we’ll have no where to go. 😖

Roisin Dubh's avatar

Exactly, climate is always in flux. How much we are impacting climate; I have no idea. I often ponder on how humans ended up in barren freezing places, leaving the easy life nearer the equator with low hanging fruit, fish, game all readily available. Unless, after they migrated the climate changed.

JosephSpoonerMD's avatar

Name anything that is unchanging in the physical world; name just one. Of course climate changes and will always change. The ignorant believed “little old” CO2 produced by combustion (and they used the term “carbon” to make CO2 seem like soot) was heating up our global temperatures to BBQ levels! Those of us Boomers who were trained in science to question never bought any of that crap but had to live with it. Thank God (unchanged eternally) the younger generations are throwing off the yoke of confirmation bias.

Rich Manzer's avatar

And the other point I’d add is that the gender cult (doesn’t rise to religion as it destroys humanity as opposed to attempting to raise it up) is a social contagion whereas the green *religion* does have salient points that advocate for some good things that we should aspire for. When I was in school the anorexia/bulimia social contagions were everywhere. Now, none of my children have an anorexic nor a bulimic child in their classes. It’s all trans or furries allowed by, my favorite pejorative “transhausen” parents and the woke teachers and unions who promote these anti-parent ideologies. I think how decisive this issue is compared to the green religion will make it burn out faster. But not before it does substantial damage to our society.

WRE's avatar

That's only a problem if that 15 year old was left to form his/her opinions/thoughts based on his/her desire for approval of his/her peers and his/her parents never interjected any questions!! My grown son and his young kids (one of each) have no problem thinking for themselves even when it goes against the "consensus"!!

Robert Wistedt's avatar

My grand daughter would challenge that, But the were un-vaxed, and her Mom is pushing

critical thinking !

Matthew Koch's avatar

Or that you can’t change your sex.

Science is Political 2.0's avatar

I did a short Substack on Climate change. It is not a myth.. the CLIMATE CHANGES EVERY DAY; just not like Greta Thunberg and the people who never bothered to even take earth science and have no clue that the actual CLIMATE IS DRIVEN BY THE OCEAN VOLCANOES and our molten Iron Core as bearing witness is the Volcano in Italy now..the PACIFIC RIM becoming active again. Back then GMU actually was good and I had to complete at least 60 hours at the junior and senior levels of ECOLOGY and PHYSICAL GEOGRAPHY.. I loved it and almost changed majors. I wanted to be a MARINE BIOLOGIST.. 'cuz we are a WATER PLANET not PLANET EARTH. Ask any exoplanet biologist or astronomer.. what are we looking for in space: WATER. :) sigh.. well need to go. Robert always has smart fun people on his posts.

Zuben_El_Genubi's avatar

All the more reason to keep your children as far away from public "education," which are, for all intents and purposes, parochial schools teaching the leftist religion. That is, unless you want your kids to be taught leftist orthodoxy...

Nama Paula's avatar

Or my college degreed 47 yo for that matter….

sparky's avatar

I would encourage everyone to rephrase our response of those that embrace "the earth is boiling" mantra to "CO2 and mans role in climate change as the primary sources of climate change is a myth". Climate change is a constant and by using that term to fight the 'true believers' you weaken the power of your comeback. Keep the focus on what the real core beliefs rest on.

53rd Chapter's avatar

Rush Limbaugh was relentless in his withering critique of the climate cultists when his was the lone voice in the wilderness. Courage personified.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I million a year ? Geez ! some people probably don't earn that in a lifetime by being honest.

Fred Jewett's avatar

I theorize that she made large donations to the Demoncratic party in order to earn that inappropriate level of salary.

William Bell's avatar

Basically another form of money laundering, Harvard gets tax dollars, she gets a high salary and part goes back to the party and the Clinton foundation.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

after getting my calculator out, I seem to be in the above category too LOLOL

Larry Cox's avatar

I haven't. Yet the "average" professional person makes "only" about $100,000 a year. Thus ten times that amount sounds to me like something akin to a bribe or reward for toeing the line. The salaries of the biggest talking heads in the legacy media can easily be ten times again higher than that big one million. I could live off the interest on a million dollars. I have no idea what those people need or do with all that money.

William Bell's avatar

Like Rachel Madcow for an example of tens of millions.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

hard to imagine isn't it? You cannot keep on buying houses, cars, planes, boats...

Larry Cox's avatar

I mean I know a guy who owns a big software company, but he has donated millions to his church. If you don't donate, and have everything you need and want, I suppose the only remaining path is investing it.

Edward Chastka's avatar

Intellectual bias serves to protect people from the fear they feel looking at the world directly and honestly.

Steve Loomis's avatar

But in this case it is probably more about the money and prestige.

James Goodrich's avatar

Do you remember when the world was flat, and any heretic that disagreed would be imprisoned or placed onto a sailboat and forced to sail off the edge of the horizon, never to be heard from again. Ahhh, those were the days, when the sun revolved around the earth and a new day would dawn. This eventually guaranteed consensus and dissent was completely eliminated. At times ignorance like history repeats itself.

Margaret Allison's avatar

This is indeed beyond sad! What kind of a life does one call this? Psy? Confusion on purpose? And these are the teachers of this age? Give me the 60s! Oh my! We have drifted because society lost its Anchor!

No bias here in my life! Just the wonderful Scriptures that have stood the test of time. A wonderful daily guide!

Thanks, Dr. Malone.

53rd Chapter's avatar

Ink on paper. Inspired. What a concept!

Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

When academia became a money making machine it essentially quit being an educational operation so it is hardly surprising it ceased acting like one. I have over 60 yrs watched how chasing grant funding virtually has destroyed scientific integrity.

53rd Chapter's avatar

Think you are at the nub of the problem.

David Poe's avatar

First they nudge, then they shove, then they shoot.

Jean's avatar

Great discussion! Points well taken.

In this small corner of the world, climate change consensies and prescribed remedies rankle. The latest misadventure with the Grid Down in Spain and surrounds is a prime example. Very early heard a well presented analysis of cause, by someone with reasonable credentials. I continue to think it is the most probable hypothesis. I've been amazed at some of the alternative fabrications. Many are clearly designed to protect the (CC) theory. Others more focused on supporting the 'solutions'. It will be interesting to see which in the end will be left standing.

Reflecting back to my earlier days, I was afflicted by desires not to be part of a group. Wanted to learn the groups bases and solutions. Wanted to look around and end up with my own conclusions. But never had the confidence (?) to try and sell anyone on my end conclusions. Didn't do much sharing them either.

This is something I appreciate about our group here. Most of us have our own takes on matters. Most of us seem comfortable sharing them. Sometimes we even discuss them. At a minimum, we come away with better honed perspectives on many topics of interest, some well worth committing actions to.

Thanks so much for creating and cultivating these opportunities for all of us. (your human wheat berries and beyond ?)

Barbara Lekowicz's avatar

“When we stop valuing independent thought, we build our own mental prison”. Such amazing truth!

VictorDianne Watson's avatar

Critical thinking must be taught again! Unquestioning groupthink results in brain death.

James Lord's avatar

When comment on observable truths is considered beyond the pale, even among the most intellectually brave, then we have a real problem, don't we? As with COVID, the Left is perennially baffled when the billions they throw at a problem fallaciously appraised yields no measurable benefit.

Nancy Benedict's avatar

“When we stop valuing independent thought, we build our own mental prison. And as diversity of thought and speech dies, it murders innovation on the way to the grave.”

This is the perfect summation of the intellectual capture which surfaced in the last five years. It was always there but became so obvious to those of us who awakened to the reality. Like an image which cannot be unseen, there is no going back.

D D's avatar

Confirmation bias happens most everywhere there is a group gathering of similar objectives. Even in this comment section if I make a statement that is different from the majority of the readership, I have gotten trounced. This is an interesting dynamic (more than one)and the trajectory towards destruction of independent thought is well on its way. Another speeding train. I have learned that I was once involved in "group think" and never thought once about it! It took the debacle of COVID to help me see it. WOW

Matthew Koch's avatar

It doesn’t say much about one’s level of confidence in their own beliefs if they lash out at those who fail to subscribe to them without reservation.

David Boothman's avatar

The subtext of this article is that Harvard has less than zero value to society, and if we are to spend money on Harvard then it should be to expose, discredit and suppress its influence on society. The only guilt that this woman carries in terms of Harvard credibility is that of being exposed.