IMO this is totally useless - how can someone 'measure' how many lives were saved? Statistics can prove anything you want, as usual. Yes it is good that they are starting to step off the 'lives saved' unto the 'lives lost', but still waaaaaay to go.
Filipino Government Reports 290,000 Excess Deaths Correlated to Covid Shots — Video
The Philippines’ House of Representatives held a hearing on May 28 regarding data indicating that 290,000 extra Filipinos have died since the Covid vaccination rollout.
“The very big spike is the deaths in 2021, which started in March of 2021, immediately consecutive with the start of the vaccine rollout. In 2021, when vaccination rolled out, the deaths went up in all age groups that were vaccinated,” Sally Clark said. “This is our birth data. And it shows that we have had a loss of babies every single year since the pandemic has started. So 2019 was our last normal birth year.”
“Excess death, according to Fernandez, is computed by subtracting the expected deaths from the actual number of deaths during the five years previous to the pandemic — that is, the average annual number of deaths from 2015 to 2019,” the government website said.
A lawyer discussed how the population is getting upset with the Department of Health (DOH) for the harm they’ve caused via the exotic technology injections.
“There are Filipino people who are sick and tired of how the DOH has let us down, has refused to admit that people are dying, turning a blind eye to the people who are getting sick, turbo cancers, myocarditis, children who are suddenly sick as if they are 60, 70-year-old people,” attorney Tanya Lat said.
Perfect example for what a model should, perhaps, look like. Use data like this from the Phillipines and simply extrapolate it to the world population. Certainly, with some magic-waving statistics as the Stanford piled-higher-and-deeper crowd performed it could be shown to have more relevance and reality.
All cause mortality, then vaccinated vs unvaccinated, like demographics plus detailed correct autopsy studies on large portions of the deceased who dies from flagged VARES harms. The answers are there and not hard to get.
How China's number of COVID deaths uncovered the myth about its total population.
"China's total number of COVID death is a myth. So is the country's demographic data. The Chinese Communist Party claims that China's total population is 1.4 billion, but various experts have questioned it. Some claimed that China's total population was as low as 800 to 500 million.
Beijing recently announced that the COVID-related death in Chinese hospitals for the past few weeks was 60K. But nobody believes the CCP's data. How many people have died since Beijing eased "Zero COVID"? The enormous number might have solved the mystery of the Chinese demographics."
Despite the Chinese Communist regime’s cover-up of massive COVID deaths, the truth is beginning to emerge. The Chinese people are on the brink of discovering the real impact of COVID on their country's population.
Across China, people are asking: Why are the streets so empty? Where did everyone go?
There are four key pieces of evidence suggesting that China’s COVID death toll may be in the hundreds of millions:
1:23 People noticing the empty streets and markets
7:37 A drastic disparity between birth and death rates
9:33. GROK-3’s estimate of the real COVID death toll
yes I have read about this overrating of the Chinese population before. But are we sure they had that many people before the scamdemic? May be they played the game, to hide way smaller population? It is hard to say, because indeed, they are always hiding away.
Indeed. Especially when many studies show an increase in all cause mortality post vaccine role out. The assumptions not considered like natural immunity, HVA, and all cause mortality, or even a vaccinated verse un-vaccinated cohort! ( BTW, that study can be done anytime for any period.) That study, like the shameful lack of in depth autopsy studies on VAERS harms, is fatal to any claim of lives saved.
Absolutely correct....useless/worthlesss....the article by DrRM is great...the study is trash...Stanford...who are they? Overpaid liars. Full of themselves. So they concede one drop of water to the ocean...personally I have learned to despise in general the medical community...maybe if some went to jail then my lack of trust might start reversing.
Why is "natural immunity" always defined as "unvaccinated people who were previously infected;" what about those of us who were never vaccinated and never got sick, because our natural immunity was able to fight off the invader in the first place?
My understanding (belief) is you have to have been infected for your body to fight it off, hence creating 'natural immunity'. You don't know you have it until your body fights off the infection. Maybe it's a mild infection and your never aware you are sick. If your body doesn't create the 'natural immunity' within itself, you would die from the infection. I'm not offended by being corrected as some doctors are ; . }
What if you don't even know you have it as your body fights it off. In other words, the invader attempts to enter and is rebuffed immediately, as an unwelcome stranger. Does this cross the threshhold of "unvaccinated people who were previously infected"?
As always in nature, there are those who luck out. Test or not, the majority of the world did get some form of Covid. Those lucky few known as "super-dodgers" or "Novids" never contracted COVID-19 despite being exposed to the virus. Research is ongoing to understand the genetic or immune factors that may contribute to this unusual resilience.
Agree...IMO...like most research of mother nature's nuances inside the human body...they may be led to conclusions that fit a particular political narrative/funder rather than factual data...and frankly...does it matter? We spend/waste billions to figure out why some people didn't show signs of infection??? Well..maybe they had less man-made chemicals inside their system...I simply do not trust much of anything within the so called scientific medical community...they make synthetic forever chemical drugs AND create viruses....then wonder why some humans are immune! They play God and doing the work of the devil is the short story.
Not a Dr so don't quote me but my understanding is the vaccines were/are created to mimic the infection in order to create immunity. Of course, they didn't and may, in fact, be making it harder for a body to create immunity, BUT, they were made with the plan 'to mimic'. Therefore, in order to have immunity a person would have to have some degree of infection invade to become immune. It might be as small as a stuffy nose or slight cough. Something many might consider allergies or less. Any of us who took vits, zinc, etc. helped build up our immune systems to fight off disastrously worse symptoms.
Long story short- exposure = developing natural immunity.
So I think we're down to a microscopic disagreement coupled with a question regarding definitions. Let's say a person has an infinitesimally small exposure to Covid that is rebuffed by his immune system. You would likely argue that that circumstance proves your point, while I say the subject's immune system conquered the invader. Maybe we're both right?
No disagreement, I think we are saying the same thing in different words. There has to be an exposure to the invader. The immune system is either strong enough to conquer or is not. If it is strong enough, it creates natural immunity. Natural immunity is protection you develop when your body fights off an infection. This shows sickness, tho maybe not catastrophic symptoms.
I have trouble embracing this study as being legitimate. In 2020 there were 563,000 excessive deaths in the US. That is when Covid was apparently rampant through out the nation. It is the same time when ventilators and the wrong medical treatment was being administered and contributed greatly to the excessive deaths that NAIAD pushed. In 2021 there were 1.1 million excessive deaths when the mRNA injections were being administered to our first responders and our medical personnel on a first come basis. If the mRNA injections were effective, the excessive deaths should have been less and not more in 2021. In addition the VAERS system over the last four years has reported 47,000 deaths due to the mRNA injections. Historically, the system has been grossly underutilized. Mainly, because of the time to fill out the paper work and also, why would a medical professional want to admit he delivered a deadly injection to a patient who was denied informed consent? Easily, the numbers can be multiplied by 20 or more to receive a true statistically accurate accounting. Dr. Kessler who was FDA Commissioner in the 1990's claimed about only 1% of ADR's are ever reported. I doubt we will ever know the truth and the money men pushing the mRNA injections will do everything possible to keep this RNA allopathic medicine model alive. We are playing with the blue print of life on a kindergarten scale and have not got a clue when we will accidently erase all of humanity from this endeavor. Our biowarfare boys have created a lot of biologically deadly chemicals and pathogens that the public is not aware of. Lyme disease is finally being recognized as having escaped from their Plum Island facility. This is just a new layer of potential harm to the human race. My view.
PS: Pfizer lied and said that their mRNA was 95% effective. So did our medical leadership.
My biggest complaint relates to the modeled 'findings' concerning the over-60 population. Being in that number, I'm convinced that they are the LAST ones who should be part of such an experimental 'therapy'. Unless of course the intent was to kill off vast numbers of them, either immediately or by gradually destroying their ability to engage in the things that made their lives worth living. The fact that the government refused to allow the use of any of the known safe and effective responses to COVID is a big clue--highly suspect at the very least.
Our models have been demonstrated to be an unreliable reflection of reality. We simply do not know enough. Our hubris is off the charts while our gratitude for the gifts we have been given is at an all time low. God is watching us, and I fear He's getting ready to make a statement.
We can know the truth and it is not complicated, Copied from above...many studies show an increase in all cause mortality post vaccine role out. The assumptions not considered in the study Dr Malone linked here are many including natural immunity, HVA, and all cause mortality, or even a vaccinated verse un-vaccinated cohort! ( BTW, that study can be done anytime for any period.) That study, like the shameful lack of in depth autopsy studies on VAERS harms, is fatal to any claim of lives saved. So we can do the studies needed.
BTW, after the initial increase in excess deaths from COVID and COVID policy, all cause mortality should have dropped considerably below the previous standard mortality rates, as many of the most vulnerable had already died during the man made GOF virus that is COVID. That fact that it went up instead, is very damming to any claim of lives saved.
I wish that I’d never had those damn shots! I don’t have any first hand example of damage that they did to me, but the concern that they have harmed or will harm me continues. I think the killed a several of my neighbors (two sudden heart attacks, one stroke). I can’t be sure. Certainly not effective. I have had Covid several times. I don’t trust the FDA or NIH or the CDC anymore. Experience is what you get right after you need it.
Well stated...you are well educated now by life's experiences and those in authority that lied to you...and are still lying...why would they change? I do not see anyone prosecuted or jailed...so keep on keeping on lying.
How can any study prove that people 60 and over would've died in droves if they hadn't gotten the experimental shot? I didn't get it and I know loads of other "old folks" who didn't. An experimental gene therapy shot that doesn't keep you from getting Covid or prevent you from spreading it really isn't worth taking. Eat healthy and take Vitamin D3 instead.
I never got a single shot, let alone any boosters. I may have contracted a mild case in November 2019 while at a community meeting, sitting beside someone who was pretty sick with something.
My belief is that certain arrogant people were and are trying to reduce the world population and do not care how many lives they destroy -- as if they themselves were the best of humanity and the rest of us are expendable.
I view their takeover strategy as deliberate and murderous. Their reward awaits them.
Hebrews 10:30-31 [A Call to Persevere] “ 30 For we know Him who said, ‘It is mine to avenge; I will repay’, and again, ‘The Lord will judge His People. 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the Hands of the Living God.”
The wuflu infected Diamond Princess liner and US carrier both only had 1/4 infected telling me that either 3/4 already had natural immunity, the virus was not nearly infectious as advertised or some combination of these 2 factors applied. Do not see how this has ever been included in any of these studies but it tells me that reported deaths almost certainly highly inflated.
I studied the reports from the 2 cruise ships that had the infection and were quarantined in Jan 2020. Without knowledge of what they were dealing with or how and what to treat with, each ship having a majority >60 yr old passenger population (did I say no treatment) <1% of the ships company died. I forget the exact figure but considering they had limited medical care they had few deaths in a majority of elderly population. With Covid limited medical care was a blessing.
All were over 60 except 1 crew member in his 40s the way I remember. If the passengers were from any western speaking country the 1st morbidity was obeseness. So if there were 2000 passengers and crew combined on those two ships (very conservative number) and using the number 15 died without CDC and FDA and WHO protocols it means .75% death rate. With no medical treatment!!!! AND probably no MASKS!!!! ALL crowed in a small space with central air system spreading the virus. If ever there was a petrie dish lab experiment those two ships were the ones to watch and not some computer model out of some ignorant university stating a 3% death rate, who may have had ulterior motives.
The lies and data obfuscation on COVID "vaccines" are too many to illicit in comments. As one example, I offer the protocol of two injections, two weeks apart, followed by a two week waiting period before a COVID injected victim was considered, ( coded ? ), as "vaccinated. Under perfect conditions COVID injected people had been injected for a full month before being considered "vaccinated". Under realistic conditions which include varying availability on both the injector side and the injectee side that time lapse is more like six weeks. Six weeks of adverse reactions, including death, coded to basically bad luck.
Since the total number of covid deaths were hugely inflated by monetizing the word "covid" on death certificates and by over reliance on inaccurate PCR testing methodologies, it is impossible to determine the mortality rate accurately. Add into this the egregiously awful treatment protocols of late intervention, respirator usage and Remdesivir, which absolutely added to the death toll, and one comes to the conclusion that ANY research based on those numbers will be inaccurate.
The only absolutely pristine real-world evidence remains the results from the Diamond Princess cruise ship early in the pandemic. The ship was quarantined for two weeks after the illness broke out, giving the virus ample time and the perfect conditions for rapid and complete spread.
Out of 3700 people, 2600 of whom were passengers, about 700 became ill. 14 died, all of them older.
So, for the older passengers, about 1 in 5 became sick, and 1 in 50 died. Among the crew, about 1 in 10 became sick and zero died. And this is with essentially nothing in terms of medical support.
A totally enclosed and quarantined subject group, consisting of mainly older adults with a sprinkling of young service people, and the mortality and morbidity rate accurately reflect the effect of this novel virus without bias and gaslighting.
Thank you for sharing this insight into the more likely success rates of Covid vaccinations and the populations that benefited most. Issues that should be considered in the event of a next pandemic.
I and likely some others bridle a bit over being targeted for vaccinating.
Personally am over 60 and would thus be in the group targeted for vaccination. I didn't get vaccinated. During the period after omicron, I contracted confirmed covid. I received monochromal antibodies and recovered. Imo the rx didnt seem particularly helpful. It was at the point their use was in quesrion.
Imo, an element that doesn't get factored into discussion is the impact repurposed drugs could have had (as compared to vaccines). Prompt drug treatment at onset of illness surely could have saved a substantial portion of the afflicted.
It would have avoided vaccine harms. It would have less financially destructive.
Should another (bird flu) respiratory crisis arise one hopes for more enclusive considerations.
The estimates of "Lives saved" is in my opinion untrustworthy as it is based on numerous assumptions stated in the methodology including this one: "We assume that absent vaccination, all people would have been infected during the Omicron period." Too many assumptions. This doesn't square with the other research showing the COVID-19 injections INCREASED risk of developing COVID-19. Numerous estimate, including those by Rancourt, Kirsch, and other indicate that deaths from vaccination from were closer to the neighborhood of 500,000. I have a lot of respect for Ioannidis, but I think he had to back away from the actual data to get this study published, and settled for a partial victory. This partial victory may have been Pyrrhic, since it allows the claim that the vaccines saved lives, which has not been shown by rigorous science.
Indeed, a small step in the right direction. I still do not know how, with hindsight, it would ever be possible to clearly differentiate deaths "from" and "with" COVID. As such, we don't know the actual fatality rate. Moreover, from https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/epidemiology/articles/10.3389/fepid.2025.1592629/full and others, we know that the seroconversion rate by the end of 2021 was much higher than admitted. Many already had (cross-reactive) immunity. Therefore, the jabs did not hit an immunologically naive population. Finally, I would not know how to model "vaccine-effectiveness" if you are dealing with such a vast decline in "protection" (official measures). How about the 2 weeks p.i. that increase infection, or the trend for negative protection? And, at the very end, some may argue that "n=1" is what really matters.
Yes, "a criminal operation" which was invisible to the people who allowed themselves to be hypnotized - but smelled like a rat to those awake and paying attention.
This study is fine, based on the parameters it used. However, it does not address what the IFR results would have been if ivermectin and Hcq been widely used on the sick.
We aren’t smart epidemiologists or vaccinologies, but here’s what our morning’s research shows:
Re: Seniors needing these shots. Cynicism alert….Well, maybe they do if you want to thin the Medicare and Social Security rolls, which are oversubscribed. Seniors seem to be dropping like flies after these shots (minutes to years), so maybe they’re not so great for the over 65 crowd after all.
Pre-vaccine COVID-19 infection fatality rate (IFR) by age subgroups (meta-analyses from seroprevalence studies):
* 0–19 years: ~0.0003–0.001%
* 20–49 years: ~0.01–0.03%
* 50–59 years: ~0.1–0.2%
* 60–69 years: ~0.5–1%
* 70–79 years: ~2–4%
* 80+ years: ~8–15%
Sources: O'Driscoll et al. (2021), Levin et al. (2020), Ioannidis et al. (2021–2022). IFR rises exponentially with age.
**Pre-COVID (2019), the average age at death in the US was approximately 78–79 years.** This aligns with life expectancy at birth of 78.8 years (CDC data), as most deaths occur in older age groups, making mean age at death slightly higher than life expectancy.
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Re: Lives Saved…
'It's corruption of science, not truth': Aaron Siri exposes WHO's 'vaccines saved 154M lives' claim (09/10/25, video 11:18)
Numbers from “studies” and “modeling” appear to be smoke and mirrors with perhaps a little wishful thinking and fairy dust sprinkled in. Attorney Aaron Siri has explained this well in many presentations, including these:
80 Canadian doctors dead following COVID-19 vaccine ,mandates as death toll continues to rise.
Lost Canadian physicians whose names and faces appear here.
80 Canadian MDs “boosted” and dead
by Dr Mark Trozzi
"Around the world, the extreme body count of men, women and children who have been injured or died following the forced and misrepresented genetic injections, continues to grow. The injections are dangerous based on their declared content, but they have many undeclared toxic ingredients as well. No one is spared from the assault on our rights and health.
Though many doctors have maintained their income by complying with and participating in the criminal injection campaign; they are still required to roll up their sleeves and take their turns in this sick game of Russian roulette. In 2022 we now see dramatically increased death rates among young injected Canadian physicians .
Here is a recent compilation of Canada’s growing number of injected and lost medical doctors (currently 80). Our condolences go to the family’s of the lost Canadian physicians whose names and faces appear here."
2111 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 1483 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection...
It is definitely not normal for so many mainly young athletes to suffer from cardiac arrests or to die while playing their sport, but this year it is happening. Many of these heart issues and deaths come shortly after they get a COVID vaccine. While it is possible this can happen to people who did not get a COVID vaccine, the sheer numbers clearly point to the only obvious cause.
Important Notes: The number of dead are included in the total number. There are also dozens of reports that are not included in the total number shown in the headline because they are not or may not be vaccine-related. The so-called health professionals running the COVID vaccine programs around the world keep repeating that “the COVID vaccine is a normal vaccine and it is safe and effective.”
My point is that I utilized sworn testimony about the deadly Jab years ago and somehow or another people think we just need to do it all over again. Over and over.
I wonder if Drs MALONE have a term to describe the PsyWar - "Broken Record" syndrome?
IMO this is totally useless - how can someone 'measure' how many lives were saved? Statistics can prove anything you want, as usual. Yes it is good that they are starting to step off the 'lives saved' unto the 'lives lost', but still waaaaaay to go.
Filipino Government Reports 290,000 Excess Deaths Correlated to Covid Shots — Video
The Philippines’ House of Representatives held a hearing on May 28 regarding data indicating that 290,000 extra Filipinos have died since the Covid vaccination rollout.
“The very big spike is the deaths in 2021, which started in March of 2021, immediately consecutive with the start of the vaccine rollout. In 2021, when vaccination rolled out, the deaths went up in all age groups that were vaccinated,” Sally Clark said. “This is our birth data. And it shows that we have had a loss of babies every single year since the pandemic has started. So 2019 was our last normal birth year.”
https://www.infowars.com/posts/filipino-government-reports-290000-excess-deaths-correlated-to-covid-shots-video/
“Excess death, according to Fernandez, is computed by subtracting the expected deaths from the actual number of deaths during the five years previous to the pandemic — that is, the average annual number of deaths from 2015 to 2019,” the government website said.
A lawyer discussed how the population is getting upset with the Department of Health (DOH) for the harm they’ve caused via the exotic technology injections.
“There are Filipino people who are sick and tired of how the DOH has let us down, has refused to admit that people are dying, turning a blind eye to the people who are getting sick, turbo cancers, myocarditis, children who are suddenly sick as if they are 60, 70-year-old people,” attorney Tanya Lat said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-ttuEHHKV0
https://www.congress.gov.ph/photojournal/zoom.php?photoid=5666&key=1481
Perfect example for what a model should, perhaps, look like. Use data like this from the Phillipines and simply extrapolate it to the world population. Certainly, with some magic-waving statistics as the Stanford piled-higher-and-deeper crowd performed it could be shown to have more relevance and reality.
All cause mortality, then vaccinated vs unvaccinated, like demographics plus detailed correct autopsy studies on large portions of the deceased who dies from flagged VARES harms. The answers are there and not hard to get.
Need to keep RNA injections coming!
very obvious where the money is. if people don't understand by now, they are just plainly retarded
How China's number of COVID deaths uncovered the myth about its total population.
"China's total number of COVID death is a myth. So is the country's demographic data. The Chinese Communist Party claims that China's total population is 1.4 billion, but various experts have questioned it. Some claimed that China's total population was as low as 800 to 500 million.
Beijing recently announced that the COVID-related death in Chinese hospitals for the past few weeks was 60K. But nobody believes the CCP's data. How many people have died since Beijing eased "Zero COVID"? The enormous number might have solved the mystery of the Chinese demographics."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnSG63d1pBk
Despite the Chinese Communist regime’s cover-up of massive COVID deaths, the truth is beginning to emerge. The Chinese people are on the brink of discovering the real impact of COVID on their country's population.
Across China, people are asking: Why are the streets so empty? Where did everyone go?
There are four key pieces of evidence suggesting that China’s COVID death toll may be in the hundreds of millions:
1:23 People noticing the empty streets and markets
7:37 A drastic disparity between birth and death rates
9:33. GROK-3’s estimate of the real COVID death toll
12:09 5% of people aged 35–44 have died
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzXed7c5tT8
yes I have read about this overrating of the Chinese population before. But are we sure they had that many people before the scamdemic? May be they played the game, to hide way smaller population? It is hard to say, because indeed, they are always hiding away.
Yes, that why I watch "Lei Lets Talk". She does a good job on reporting on China.
Indeed. Especially when many studies show an increase in all cause mortality post vaccine role out. The assumptions not considered like natural immunity, HVA, and all cause mortality, or even a vaccinated verse un-vaccinated cohort! ( BTW, that study can be done anytime for any period.) That study, like the shameful lack of in depth autopsy studies on VAERS harms, is fatal to any claim of lives saved.
Absolutely correct....useless/worthlesss....the article by DrRM is great...the study is trash...Stanford...who are they? Overpaid liars. Full of themselves. So they concede one drop of water to the ocean...personally I have learned to despise in general the medical community...maybe if some went to jail then my lack of trust might start reversing.
Why is "natural immunity" always defined as "unvaccinated people who were previously infected;" what about those of us who were never vaccinated and never got sick, because our natural immunity was able to fight off the invader in the first place?
Exactly!
Because those people are still Mind virus infected and never understood what natural immunity was to begin with.
Correct...TDS and WMV (woke mind virus) are the worst...its a plague.
I never got the virus bc I never took the test.
My understanding (belief) is you have to have been infected for your body to fight it off, hence creating 'natural immunity'. You don't know you have it until your body fights off the infection. Maybe it's a mild infection and your never aware you are sick. If your body doesn't create the 'natural immunity' within itself, you would die from the infection. I'm not offended by being corrected as some doctors are ; . }
What if you don't even know you have it as your body fights it off. In other words, the invader attempts to enter and is rebuffed immediately, as an unwelcome stranger. Does this cross the threshhold of "unvaccinated people who were previously infected"?
If you don't take the test, you never got the virus.
As always in nature, there are those who luck out. Test or not, the majority of the world did get some form of Covid. Those lucky few known as "super-dodgers" or "Novids" never contracted COVID-19 despite being exposed to the virus. Research is ongoing to understand the genetic or immune factors that may contribute to this unusual resilience.
Agree...IMO...like most research of mother nature's nuances inside the human body...they may be led to conclusions that fit a particular political narrative/funder rather than factual data...and frankly...does it matter? We spend/waste billions to figure out why some people didn't show signs of infection??? Well..maybe they had less man-made chemicals inside their system...I simply do not trust much of anything within the so called scientific medical community...they make synthetic forever chemical drugs AND create viruses....then wonder why some humans are immune! They play God and doing the work of the devil is the short story.
Sorry but simply not true of COVID, colds, coronavirus in general, or any other virus.
Not a Dr so don't quote me but my understanding is the vaccines were/are created to mimic the infection in order to create immunity. Of course, they didn't and may, in fact, be making it harder for a body to create immunity, BUT, they were made with the plan 'to mimic'. Therefore, in order to have immunity a person would have to have some degree of infection invade to become immune. It might be as small as a stuffy nose or slight cough. Something many might consider allergies or less. Any of us who took vits, zinc, etc. helped build up our immune systems to fight off disastrously worse symptoms.
Long story short- exposure = developing natural immunity.
So I think we're down to a microscopic disagreement coupled with a question regarding definitions. Let's say a person has an infinitesimally small exposure to Covid that is rebuffed by his immune system. You would likely argue that that circumstance proves your point, while I say the subject's immune system conquered the invader. Maybe we're both right?
No disagreement, I think we are saying the same thing in different words. There has to be an exposure to the invader. The immune system is either strong enough to conquer or is not. If it is strong enough, it creates natural immunity. Natural immunity is protection you develop when your body fights off an infection. This shows sickness, tho maybe not catastrophic symptoms.
Hmm...you seem to be a thinking human...need to send you to a re-education camp!!! We cannot survive without the modern vaccine shots (satire).
I have trouble embracing this study as being legitimate. In 2020 there were 563,000 excessive deaths in the US. That is when Covid was apparently rampant through out the nation. It is the same time when ventilators and the wrong medical treatment was being administered and contributed greatly to the excessive deaths that NAIAD pushed. In 2021 there were 1.1 million excessive deaths when the mRNA injections were being administered to our first responders and our medical personnel on a first come basis. If the mRNA injections were effective, the excessive deaths should have been less and not more in 2021. In addition the VAERS system over the last four years has reported 47,000 deaths due to the mRNA injections. Historically, the system has been grossly underutilized. Mainly, because of the time to fill out the paper work and also, why would a medical professional want to admit he delivered a deadly injection to a patient who was denied informed consent? Easily, the numbers can be multiplied by 20 or more to receive a true statistically accurate accounting. Dr. Kessler who was FDA Commissioner in the 1990's claimed about only 1% of ADR's are ever reported. I doubt we will ever know the truth and the money men pushing the mRNA injections will do everything possible to keep this RNA allopathic medicine model alive. We are playing with the blue print of life on a kindergarten scale and have not got a clue when we will accidently erase all of humanity from this endeavor. Our biowarfare boys have created a lot of biologically deadly chemicals and pathogens that the public is not aware of. Lyme disease is finally being recognized as having escaped from their Plum Island facility. This is just a new layer of potential harm to the human race. My view.
PS: Pfizer lied and said that their mRNA was 95% effective. So did our medical leadership.
Wonder what the vit D3 readings were on that 1/2 million or so fatalities in 2020?
Many were nursing home patients, so I'm guessing their Vitamin D levels were likely below normal.
yeah, I believe you answered Michael's rhetorical question. . .
The bigger problem is that it is highly likely that instead of checking and compensating for their low Vitamin levels, their "doctors" instead
-- sent them home,
-- offered them a mask,
-- prevailed on them not to try IVM or Hydroxychloriquine,
-- waited too long to treat them,
-- intubated them, and
-- offered them Remdesivir.
PS: That is when they sold President Trump on the concept that 3% of the population, or 10 million people would die from Covid in 2020. A BIG lie!
Thomas, Well stated. Well reasoned.
My biggest complaint relates to the modeled 'findings' concerning the over-60 population. Being in that number, I'm convinced that they are the LAST ones who should be part of such an experimental 'therapy'. Unless of course the intent was to kill off vast numbers of them, either immediately or by gradually destroying their ability to engage in the things that made their lives worth living. The fact that the government refused to allow the use of any of the known safe and effective responses to COVID is a big clue--highly suspect at the very least.
Our models have been demonstrated to be an unreliable reflection of reality. We simply do not know enough. Our hubris is off the charts while our gratitude for the gifts we have been given is at an all time low. God is watching us, and I fear He's getting ready to make a statement.
Is anyone paying attention?
You are absolutely correct!
We can know the truth and it is not complicated, Copied from above...many studies show an increase in all cause mortality post vaccine role out. The assumptions not considered in the study Dr Malone linked here are many including natural immunity, HVA, and all cause mortality, or even a vaccinated verse un-vaccinated cohort! ( BTW, that study can be done anytime for any period.) That study, like the shameful lack of in depth autopsy studies on VAERS harms, is fatal to any claim of lives saved. So we can do the studies needed.
BTW, after the initial increase in excess deaths from COVID and COVID policy, all cause mortality should have dropped considerably below the previous standard mortality rates, as many of the most vulnerable had already died during the man made GOF virus that is COVID. That fact that it went up instead, is very damming to any claim of lives saved.
Yep! Deny! Deny! Deny! and then the masses will believe the lies.
I do too..but it is a start which I don't want to think about right now..
Agree...good for your skepticism of the study...its the same liars with a new lie about old lies they sell.
I wish that I’d never had those damn shots! I don’t have any first hand example of damage that they did to me, but the concern that they have harmed or will harm me continues. I think the killed a several of my neighbors (two sudden heart attacks, one stroke). I can’t be sure. Certainly not effective. I have had Covid several times. I don’t trust the FDA or NIH or the CDC anymore. Experience is what you get right after you need it.
Well stated...you are well educated now by life's experiences and those in authority that lied to you...and are still lying...why would they change? I do not see anyone prosecuted or jailed...so keep on keeping on lying.
How can any study prove that people 60 and over would've died in droves if they hadn't gotten the experimental shot? I didn't get it and I know loads of other "old folks" who didn't. An experimental gene therapy shot that doesn't keep you from getting Covid or prevent you from spreading it really isn't worth taking. Eat healthy and take Vitamin D3 instead.
I never got a single shot, let alone any boosters. I may have contracted a mild case in November 2019 while at a community meeting, sitting beside someone who was pretty sick with something.
My belief is that certain arrogant people were and are trying to reduce the world population and do not care how many lives they destroy -- as if they themselves were the best of humanity and the rest of us are expendable.
I view their takeover strategy as deliberate and murderous. Their reward awaits them.
Hebrews 10:30-31 [A Call to Persevere] “ 30 For we know Him who said, ‘It is mine to avenge; I will repay’, and again, ‘The Lord will judge His People. 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the Hands of the Living God.”
The wuflu infected Diamond Princess liner and US carrier both only had 1/4 infected telling me that either 3/4 already had natural immunity, the virus was not nearly infectious as advertised or some combination of these 2 factors applied. Do not see how this has ever been included in any of these studies but it tells me that reported deaths almost certainly highly inflated.
I studied the reports from the 2 cruise ships that had the infection and were quarantined in Jan 2020. Without knowledge of what they were dealing with or how and what to treat with, each ship having a majority >60 yr old passenger population (did I say no treatment) <1% of the ships company died. I forget the exact figure but considering they had limited medical care they had few deaths in a majority of elderly population. With Covid limited medical care was a blessing.
Only 15 (14?) died, all over 60 and had greater than 2 comorbidities.
Source?
Was reported on various internet ,sources back in 2020. Think can still be found there
Somehow I recalled that 8 died.
Not what I remember
All were over 60 except 1 crew member in his 40s the way I remember. If the passengers were from any western speaking country the 1st morbidity was obeseness. So if there were 2000 passengers and crew combined on those two ships (very conservative number) and using the number 15 died without CDC and FDA and WHO protocols it means .75% death rate. With no medical treatment!!!! AND probably no MASKS!!!! ALL crowed in a small space with central air system spreading the virus. If ever there was a petrie dish lab experiment those two ships were the ones to watch and not some computer model out of some ignorant university stating a 3% death rate, who may have had ulterior motives.
The lies and data obfuscation on COVID "vaccines" are too many to illicit in comments. As one example, I offer the protocol of two injections, two weeks apart, followed by a two week waiting period before a COVID injected victim was considered, ( coded ? ), as "vaccinated. Under perfect conditions COVID injected people had been injected for a full month before being considered "vaccinated". Under realistic conditions which include varying availability on both the injector side and the injectee side that time lapse is more like six weeks. Six weeks of adverse reactions, including death, coded to basically bad luck.
Since the total number of covid deaths were hugely inflated by monetizing the word "covid" on death certificates and by over reliance on inaccurate PCR testing methodologies, it is impossible to determine the mortality rate accurately. Add into this the egregiously awful treatment protocols of late intervention, respirator usage and Remdesivir, which absolutely added to the death toll, and one comes to the conclusion that ANY research based on those numbers will be inaccurate.
The only absolutely pristine real-world evidence remains the results from the Diamond Princess cruise ship early in the pandemic. The ship was quarantined for two weeks after the illness broke out, giving the virus ample time and the perfect conditions for rapid and complete spread.
Out of 3700 people, 2600 of whom were passengers, about 700 became ill. 14 died, all of them older.
So, for the older passengers, about 1 in 5 became sick, and 1 in 50 died. Among the crew, about 1 in 10 became sick and zero died. And this is with essentially nothing in terms of medical support.
A totally enclosed and quarantined subject group, consisting of mainly older adults with a sprinkling of young service people, and the mortality and morbidity rate accurately reflect the effect of this novel virus without bias and gaslighting.
At the same time a US carrier with 4000 sailors got infected. Only 1/4 became ill and only 1 died.
Exactly so.
Thank you for sharing this insight into the more likely success rates of Covid vaccinations and the populations that benefited most. Issues that should be considered in the event of a next pandemic.
I and likely some others bridle a bit over being targeted for vaccinating.
Personally am over 60 and would thus be in the group targeted for vaccination. I didn't get vaccinated. During the period after omicron, I contracted confirmed covid. I received monochromal antibodies and recovered. Imo the rx didnt seem particularly helpful. It was at the point their use was in quesrion.
Imo, an element that doesn't get factored into discussion is the impact repurposed drugs could have had (as compared to vaccines). Prompt drug treatment at onset of illness surely could have saved a substantial portion of the afflicted.
It would have avoided vaccine harms. It would have less financially destructive.
Should another (bird flu) respiratory crisis arise one hopes for more enclusive considerations.
The estimates of "Lives saved" is in my opinion untrustworthy as it is based on numerous assumptions stated in the methodology including this one: "We assume that absent vaccination, all people would have been infected during the Omicron period." Too many assumptions. This doesn't square with the other research showing the COVID-19 injections INCREASED risk of developing COVID-19. Numerous estimate, including those by Rancourt, Kirsch, and other indicate that deaths from vaccination from were closer to the neighborhood of 500,000. I have a lot of respect for Ioannidis, but I think he had to back away from the actual data to get this study published, and settled for a partial victory. This partial victory may have been Pyrrhic, since it allows the claim that the vaccines saved lives, which has not been shown by rigorous science.
Indeed, a small step in the right direction. I still do not know how, with hindsight, it would ever be possible to clearly differentiate deaths "from" and "with" COVID. As such, we don't know the actual fatality rate. Moreover, from https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/epidemiology/articles/10.3389/fepid.2025.1592629/full and others, we know that the seroconversion rate by the end of 2021 was much higher than admitted. Many already had (cross-reactive) immunity. Therefore, the jabs did not hit an immunologically naive population. Finally, I would not know how to model "vaccine-effectiveness" if you are dealing with such a vast decline in "protection" (official measures). How about the 2 weeks p.i. that increase infection, or the trend for negative protection? And, at the very end, some may argue that "n=1" is what really matters.
When everyone that died in 2020 were sure to be tagged with dying from covid because cash was handed out makes this a criminal operation!
Yes, "a criminal operation" which was invisible to the people who allowed themselves to be hypnotized - but smelled like a rat to those awake and paying attention.
This study is fine, based on the parameters it used. However, it does not address what the IFR results would have been if ivermectin and Hcq been widely used on the sick.
It is designed to make injections of RNA acceptable!
In the immortal words of Scoobydoo: "Ruh roh Reggy".
Falling dominoes ahead.
We aren’t smart epidemiologists or vaccinologies, but here’s what our morning’s research shows:
Re: Seniors needing these shots. Cynicism alert….Well, maybe they do if you want to thin the Medicare and Social Security rolls, which are oversubscribed. Seniors seem to be dropping like flies after these shots (minutes to years), so maybe they’re not so great for the over 65 crowd after all.
Highly underreported data from VAERS/OpenVAERS shows deaths 65 or over from COVID shots at more than 9,600 in the US alone (multiply by the likely 1% under-reporting factor and you get a whole bunch more): https://www.openvaers.com/vaersapp/reports.php?died=Y&age1=65&us_only=Yes&covid_only=Yes
Per Grok:
Pre-vaccine COVID-19 infection fatality rate (IFR) by age subgroups (meta-analyses from seroprevalence studies):
* 0–19 years: ~0.0003–0.001%
* 20–49 years: ~0.01–0.03%
* 50–59 years: ~0.1–0.2%
* 60–69 years: ~0.5–1%
* 70–79 years: ~2–4%
* 80+ years: ~8–15%
Sources: O'Driscoll et al. (2021), Levin et al. (2020), Ioannidis et al. (2021–2022). IFR rises exponentially with age.
**Pre-COVID (2019), the average age at death in the US was approximately 78–79 years.** This aligns with life expectancy at birth of 78.8 years (CDC data), as most deaths occur in older age groups, making mean age at death slightly higher than life expectancy.
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Re: Lives Saved…
'It's corruption of science, not truth': Aaron Siri exposes WHO's 'vaccines saved 154M lives' claim (09/10/25, video 11:18)
Numbers from “studies” and “modeling” appear to be smoke and mirrors with perhaps a little wishful thinking and fairy dust sprinkled in. Attorney Aaron Siri has explained this well in many presentations, including these:
* Clip from Ron Johnson Hearing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh6r5rIo4Jw
* Siri Written Testimony for Ron Johnson Hearing: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Siri-Testimony.pdf
* Full Ron Johnson Hearing: Congressional hearing titled 'How the Corruption of Science Has Impacted Public Perception and Policies Regarding Vaccines': https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/hearings/how-the-corruption-of-science-has-impacted-public-perception-and-policies-regarding-vaccines/
Did these Doctors make the list?
https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/80-canadian-doctors-dead-following-covid-19-vaccine-mandates-as-death-toll-continues-to-rise/
80 Canadian doctors dead following COVID-19 vaccine ,mandates as death toll continues to rise.
Lost Canadian physicians whose names and faces appear here.
80 Canadian MDs “boosted” and dead
by Dr Mark Trozzi
"Around the world, the extreme body count of men, women and children who have been injured or died following the forced and misrepresented genetic injections, continues to grow. The injections are dangerous based on their declared content, but they have many undeclared toxic ingredients as well. No one is spared from the assault on our rights and health.
Though many doctors have maintained their income by complying with and participating in the criminal injection campaign; they are still required to roll up their sleeves and take their turns in this sick game of Russian roulette. In 2022 we now see dramatically increased death rates among young injected Canadian physicians .
Here is a recent compilation of Canada’s growing number of injected and lost medical doctors (currently 80). Our condolences go to the family’s of the lost Canadian physicians whose names and faces appear here."
https://www.drtrozzi.news/p/80-canadian-mds-boosted-and-dead
2111 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 1483 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection...
It is definitely not normal for so many mainly young athletes to suffer from cardiac arrests or to die while playing their sport, but this year it is happening. Many of these heart issues and deaths come shortly after they get a COVID vaccine. While it is possible this can happen to people who did not get a COVID vaccine, the sheer numbers clearly point to the only obvious cause.
Important Notes: The number of dead are included in the total number. There are also dozens of reports that are not included in the total number shown in the headline because they are not or may not be vaccine-related. The so-called health professionals running the COVID vaccine programs around the world keep repeating that “the COVID vaccine is a normal vaccine and it is safe and effective.”
326 Athlete cardiac arrests, serious issues, 183 dead, after COVID shot
Back in Friday, December 17, 2021 by: News Editors
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/
This story will grow over time(2021 to
Follow link, each victim(All 1616) is listed along with a news link.
Here is a non-exhaustive list of injuries reported. Most were cardiac arrest.
Cardiac Arrest
Blood Clots or Thrombosis
Stroke
Irregular Heartbeat
Arrhythmia
Neuropathy
Death
Thank you - very helpful info.
Do it all over again.
And again, and again.
My point is that I utilized sworn testimony about the deadly Jab years ago and somehow or another people think we just need to do it all over again. Over and over.
I wonder if Drs MALONE have a term to describe the PsyWar - "Broken Record" syndrome?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bUN8UJEAvLnK6NNWVpqOcUZebpn2s6gU
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T2naBCtSdwqtbVyab7S1QUuzxnmZvsE3
Go get the Doc from the USDC Alabama clerk of court. Get a True and Correct certification.