IMO this is totally useless - how can someone 'measure' how many lives were saved? Statistics can prove anything you want, as usual. Yes it is good that they are starting to step off the 'lives saved' unto the 'lives lost', but still waaaaaay to go.
Filipino Government Reports 290,000 Excess Deaths Correlated to Covid Shots — Video
The Philippines’ House of Representatives held a hearing on May 28 regarding data indicating that 290,000 extra Filipinos have died since the Covid vaccination rollout.
“The very big spike is the deaths in 2021, which started in March of 2021, immediately consecutive with the start of the vaccine rollout. In 2021, when vaccination rolled out, the deaths went up in all age groups that were vaccinated,” Sally Clark said. “This is our birth data. And it shows that we have had a loss of babies every single year since the pandemic has started. So 2019 was our last normal birth year.”
“Excess death, according to Fernandez, is computed by subtracting the expected deaths from the actual number of deaths during the five years previous to the pandemic — that is, the average annual number of deaths from 2015 to 2019,” the government website said.
A lawyer discussed how the population is getting upset with the Department of Health (DOH) for the harm they’ve caused via the exotic technology injections.
“There are Filipino people who are sick and tired of how the DOH has let us down, has refused to admit that people are dying, turning a blind eye to the people who are getting sick, turbo cancers, myocarditis, children who are suddenly sick as if they are 60, 70-year-old people,” attorney Tanya Lat said.
How China's number of COVID deaths uncovered the myth about its total population.
"China's total number of COVID death is a myth. So is the country's demographic data. The Chinese Communist Party claims that China's total population is 1.4 billion, but various experts have questioned it. Some claimed that China's total population was as low as 800 million.
Beijing recently announced that the COVID-related death in Chinese hospitals for the past few weeks was 60K. But nobody believes the CCP's data. How many people have died since Beijing eased "Zero COVID"? The enormous number might have solved the mystery of the Chinese demographics."
Despite the Chinese Communist regime’s cover-up of massive COVID deaths, the truth is beginning to emerge. The Chinese people are on the brink of discovering the real impact of COVID on their country's population.
Across China, people are asking: Why are the streets so empty? Where did everyone go?
There are four key pieces of evidence suggesting that China’s COVID death toll may be in the hundreds of millions:
1:23 People noticing the empty streets and markets
7:37 A drastic disparity between birth and death rates
9:33. GROK-3’s estimate of the real COVID death toll
yes I have read about this overrating of the Chinese population before. But are we sure they had that many people before the scamdemic? May be they played the game, to hide way smaller population? It is hard to say, because indeed, they are always hiding away.
Why is "natural immunity" always defined as "unvaccinated people who were previously infected;" what about those of us who were never vaccinated and never got sick, because our natural immunity was able to fight off the invader in the first place?
My understanding (belief) is you have to have been infected for your body to fight it off, hence creating 'natural immunity'. You don't know you have it until your body fights off the infection. Maybe it's a mild infection and your never aware you are sick. If your body doesn't create the 'natural immunity' within itself, you would die from the infection. I'm not offended by being corrected as some doctors are ; . }
What if you don't even know you have it as your body fights it off. In other words, the invader attempts to enter and is rebuffed immediately, as an unwelcome stranger. Does this cross the threshhold of "unvaccinated people who were previously infected"?
Not a Dr so don't quote me but my understanding is the vaccines were/are created to mimic the infection in order to create immunity. Of course, they didn't and may, in fact, be making it harder for a body to create immunity, BUT, they were made with the plan 'to mimic'. Therefore, in order to have immunity a person would have to have some degree of infection invade to become immune. It might be as small as a stuffy nose or slight cough. Something many might consider allergies or less. Any of us who took vits, zinc, etc. helped build up our immune systems to fight off disastrously worse symptoms.
Long story short- exposure = developing natural immunity.
I have trouble embracing this study as being legitimate. In 2020 there were 563,000 excessive deaths in the US. That is when Covid was apparently rampant through out the nation. It is the same time when ventilators and the wrong medical treatment was being administered and contributed greatly to the excessive deaths that NAIAD pushed. In 2021 there were 1.1 million excessive deaths when the mRNA injections were being administered to our first responders and our medical personnel on a first come basis. If the mRNA injections were effective, the excessive deaths should have been less and not more in 2021. In addition the VAERS system over the last four years has reported 47,000 deaths due to the mRNA injections. Historically, the system has been grossly underutilized. Mainly, because of the time to fill out the paper work and also, why would a medical professional want to admit he delivered a deadly injection to a patient who was denied informed consent? Easily, the numbers can be multiplied by 20 or more to receive a true statistically accurate accounting. Dr. Kessler who was FDA Commissioner in the 1990's claimed about only 1% of ADR's are ever reported. I doubt we will ever know the truth and the money men pushing the mRNA injections will do everything possible to keep this RNA allopathic medicine model alive. We are playing with the blue print of life on a kindergarten scale and have not got a clue when we will accidently erase all of humanity from this endeavor. Our biowarfare boys have created a lot of biologically deadly chemicals and pathogens that the public is not aware of. Lyme disease is finally being recognized as having escaped from their Plum Island facility. This is just a new layer of potential harm to the human race. My view.
PS: Pfizer lied and said that their mRNA was 95% effective. So did our medical leadership.
The wuflu infected Diamond Princess liner and US carrier both only had 1/4 infected telling me that either 3/4 already had natural immunity, the virus was not nearly infectious as advertised or some combination of these 2 factors applied. Do not see how this has ever been included in any of these studies but it tells me that reported deaths almost certainly highly inflated.
I studied the reports from the 2 cruise ships that had the infection and were quarantined in Jan 2020. Without knowledge of what they were dealing with or how and what to treat with, each ship having a majority >60 yr old passenger population (did I say no treatment) <1% of the ships company died. I forget the exact figure but considering they had limited medical care they had few deaths in a majority of elderly population. With Covid limited medical care was a blessing.
I wish that I’d never had those damn shots! I don’t have any first hand example of damage that they did to me, but the concern that they have harmed or will harm me continues. I think the killed a several of my neighbors (two sudden heart attacks, one stroke). I can’t be sure. Certainly not effective. I have had Covid several times. I don’t trust the FDA or NIH or the CDC anymore. Experience is what you get right after you need it.
How can any study prove that people 60 and over would've died in droves if they hadn't gotten the experimental shot? I didn't get it and I know loads of other "old folks" who didn't. An experimental gene therapy shot that doesn't keep you from getting Covid or prevent you from spreading it really isn't worth taking. Eat healthy and take Vitamin D3 instead.
Indeed, a small step in the right direction. I still do not know how, with hindsight, it would ever be possible to clearly differentiate deaths "from" and "with" COVID. As such, we don't know the actual fatality rate. Moreover, from https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/epidemiology/articles/10.3389/fepid.2025.1592629/full and others, we know that the seroconversion rate by the end of 2021 was much higher than admitted. Many already had (cross-reactive) immunity. Therefore, the jabs did not hit an immunologically naive population. Finally, I would not know how to model "vaccine-effectiveness" if you are dealing with such a vast decline in "protection" (official measures). How about the 2 weeks p.i. that increase infection, or the trend for negative protection? And, at the very end, some may argue that "n=1" is what really matters.
Yes, "a criminal operation" which was invisible to the people who allowed themselves to be hypnotized - but smelled like a rat to those awake and paying attention.
The lies and data obfuscation on COVID "vaccines" are too many to illicit in comments. As one example, I offer the protocol of two injections, two weeks apart, followed by a two week waiting period before a COVID injected victim was considered, ( coded ? ), as "vaccinated. Under perfect conditions COVID injected people had been injected for a full month before being considered "vaccinated". Under realistic conditions which include varying availability on both the injector side and the injectee side that time lapse is more like six weeks. Six weeks of adverse reactions, including death, coded to basically bad luck.
Since the total number of covid deaths were hugely inflated by monetizing the word "covid" on death certificates and by over reliance on inaccurate PCR testing methodologies, it is impossible to determine the mortality rate accurately. Add into this the egregiously awful treatment protocols of late intervention, respirator usage and Remdesivir, which absolutely added to the death toll, and one comes to the conclusion that ANY research based on those numbers will be inaccurate.
The only absolutely pristine real-world evidence remains the results from the Diamond Princess cruise ship early in the pandemic. The ship was quarantined for two weeks after the illness broke out, giving the virus ample time and the perfect conditions for rapid and complete spread.
Out of 3700 people, 2600 of whom were passengers, about 700 became ill. 14 died, all of them older.
So, for the older passengers, about 1 in 5 became sick, and 1 in 50 died. Among the crew, about 1 in 10 became sick and zero died. And this is with essentially nothing in terms of medical support.
A totally enclosed and quarantined subject group, consisting of mainly older adults with a sprinkling of young service people, and the mortality and morbidity rate accurately reflect the effect of this novel virus without bias and gaslighting.
Thank you for sharing this insight into the more likely success rates of Covid vaccinations and the populations that benefited most. Issues that should be considered in the event of a next pandemic.
I and likely some others bridle a bit over being targeted for vaccinating.
Personally am over 60 and would thus be in the group targeted for vaccination. I didn't get vaccinated. During the period after omicron, I contracted confirmed covid. I received monochromal antibodies and recovered. Imo the rx didnt seem particularly helpful. It was at the point their use was in quesrion.
Imo, an element that doesn't get factored into discussion is the impact repurposed drugs could have had (as compared to vaccines). Prompt drug treatment at onset of illness surely could have saved a substantial portion of the afflicted.
It would have avoided vaccine harms. It would have less financially destructive.
Should another (bird flu) respiratory crisis arise one hopes for more enclusive considerations.
The estimates of "Lives saved" is in my opinion untrustworthy as it is based on numerous assumptions stated in the methodology including this one: "We assume that absent vaccination, all people would have been infected during the Omicron period." Too many assumptions. This doesn't square with the other research showing the COVID-19 injections INCREASED risk of developing COVID-19. Numerous estimate, including those by Rancourt, Kirsch, and other indicate that deaths from vaccination from were closer to the neighborhood of 500,000. I have a lot of respect for Ioannidis, but I think he had to back away from the actual data to get this study published, and settled for a partial victory. This partial victory may have been Pyrrhic, since it allows the claim that the vaccines saved lives, which has not been shown by rigorous science.
I'm not an epidemiologist but I can appreciate from the study and your analysis that the most likely to have benefited from the vaccine were those 60+ and not debilitated. It helps weed out the groups that were not benefited. It should put a pause on blind acceptance of vaccination by public health officials. This could help ACIP in advising and making recommendations to CDC/HHS.
Could have happened that way. I don't want to get into it.. but I was over 65 and never got the vaccination.. and got Covid.. almost ALL my friends who (I said almost) who did take the three or four vaccines.. sustained long term Covid issues based on pre existing conditions.. and this is not anecdotal.. I have many friends who now have stage 2 or 3 kidney disease.. and a multitude of other issues.. so I do not agree w/ the concept of people over 65 should have got the vaccine in part because the VACCINE(S) were such a mess.. some people got Moderna, some Pfizer. some from Urgent care.. w/ unknown origin.. so there are many variables.. then the boosters.. which were sourced from God knows where. I used to build Medical Databases and clinical trials for a living.. so whenever that Database if finally compiled.. including informed consent... and if the person actually remember WHAT THEY TOOK and when.. we may never know. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION... just sayin..
I also did not take the vaccine and i’m glad I didn’t because in June thru Aug 2021 I had a life-threatening bacteremia which led to open heart surgery in early 2022 (age 59 at that time). My mother-in-law had Covid real bad in Nov. 2021 and we treated her as per the algorithm of Dr. McCullough and she made it. I wanted to be tested to see if I had antibodies to Covid prior to my surgery, and I did!
Because I don't interact with a lot of people daily (I see more cows and farm animals on any given day), i’ve only heard of all the side effects from the vax. My comment was purely on the paper’s findings … and how they could cut down on using such a product (if not entirely cutting it out totally).
As a side note: AARP.. which relies on its senior subscribers to LOSE TRACK of their subscriptions because many do.. because they have moderate senior moments.. maybe has that information. I get a NEW BILL ONCE A MONTH.. even though I am paid up through 2027.. just an example... we are dealing w/ SENIOR CITIZENS.. some of whom have memory issues. BLESS THEIR HEARTS.. and MERRY CHRISTMAS.. remember?
I dropped AARP like a hot potato the moment they endorsed obamacare back 12 or 15 years ago. Been throwing away their mail unopened ever since. I wouldn't give them 15 cents if you beat me with a 2 x 4.
We aren’t smart epidemiologists or vaccinologies, but here’s what our morning’s research shows:
Re: Seniors needing these shots. Cynicism alert….Well, maybe they do if you want to thin the Medicare and Social Security rolls, which are oversubscribed. Seniors seem to be dropping like flies after these shots (minutes to years), so maybe they’re not so great for the over 65 crowd after all.
Pre-vaccine COVID-19 infection fatality rate (IFR) by age subgroups (meta-analyses from seroprevalence studies):
* 0–19 years: ~0.0003–0.001%
* 20–49 years: ~0.01–0.03%
* 50–59 years: ~0.1–0.2%
* 60–69 years: ~0.5–1%
* 70–79 years: ~2–4%
* 80+ years: ~8–15%
Sources: O'Driscoll et al. (2021), Levin et al. (2020), Ioannidis et al. (2021–2022). IFR rises exponentially with age.
**Pre-COVID (2019), the average age at death in the US was approximately 78–79 years.** This aligns with life expectancy at birth of 78.8 years (CDC data), as most deaths occur in older age groups, making mean age at death slightly higher than life expectancy.
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Re: Lives Saved…
'It's corruption of science, not truth': Aaron Siri exposes WHO's 'vaccines saved 154M lives' claim (09/10/25, video 11:18)
Numbers from “studies” and “modeling” appear to be smoke and mirrors with perhaps a little wishful thinking and fairy dust sprinkled in. Attorney Aaron Siri has explained this well in many presentations, including these:
80 Canadian doctors dead following COVID-19 vaccine ,mandates as death toll continues to rise.
Lost Canadian physicians whose names and faces appear here.
80 Canadian MDs “boosted” and dead
by Dr Mark Trozzi
"Around the world, the extreme body count of men, women and children who have been injured or died following the forced and misrepresented genetic injections, continues to grow. The injections are dangerous based on their declared content, but they have many undeclared toxic ingredients as well. No one is spared from the assault on our rights and health.
Though many doctors have maintained their income by complying with and participating in the criminal injection campaign; they are still required to roll up their sleeves and take their turns in this sick game of Russian roulette. In 2022 we now see dramatically increased death rates among young injected Canadian physicians .
Here is a recent compilation of Canada’s growing number of injected and lost medical doctors (currently 80). Our condolences go to the family’s of the lost Canadian physicians whose names and faces appear here."
1616 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 1114 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection...
It is definitely not normal for so many mainly young athletes to suffer from cardiac arrests or to die while playing their sport, but this year it is happening. Many of these heart issues and deaths come shortly after they get a COVID vaccine. While it is possible this can happen to people who did not get a COVID vaccine, the sheer numbers clearly point to the only obvious cause.
Important Notes: The number of dead are included in the total number. There are also dozens of reports that are not included in the total number shown in the headline because they are not or may not be vaccine-related. The so-called health professionals running the COVID vaccine programs around the world keep repeating that “the COVID vaccine is a normal vaccine and it is safe and effective.”
This study is fine, based on the parameters it used. However, it does not address what the IFR results would have been if ivermectin and Hcq been widely used on the sick.
IMO this is totally useless - how can someone 'measure' how many lives were saved? Statistics can prove anything you want, as usual. Yes it is good that they are starting to step off the 'lives saved' unto the 'lives lost', but still waaaaaay to go.
Filipino Government Reports 290,000 Excess Deaths Correlated to Covid Shots — Video
The Philippines’ House of Representatives held a hearing on May 28 regarding data indicating that 290,000 extra Filipinos have died since the Covid vaccination rollout.
“The very big spike is the deaths in 2021, which started in March of 2021, immediately consecutive with the start of the vaccine rollout. In 2021, when vaccination rolled out, the deaths went up in all age groups that were vaccinated,” Sally Clark said. “This is our birth data. And it shows that we have had a loss of babies every single year since the pandemic has started. So 2019 was our last normal birth year.”
https://www.infowars.com/posts/filipino-government-reports-290000-excess-deaths-correlated-to-covid-shots-video/
“Excess death, according to Fernandez, is computed by subtracting the expected deaths from the actual number of deaths during the five years previous to the pandemic — that is, the average annual number of deaths from 2015 to 2019,” the government website said.
A lawyer discussed how the population is getting upset with the Department of Health (DOH) for the harm they’ve caused via the exotic technology injections.
“There are Filipino people who are sick and tired of how the DOH has let us down, has refused to admit that people are dying, turning a blind eye to the people who are getting sick, turbo cancers, myocarditis, children who are suddenly sick as if they are 60, 70-year-old people,” attorney Tanya Lat said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-ttuEHHKV0
https://www.congress.gov.ph/photojournal/zoom.php?photoid=5666&key=1481
Need to keep RNA injections coming!
very obvious where the money is. if people don't understand by now, they are just plainly retarded
How China's number of COVID deaths uncovered the myth about its total population.
"China's total number of COVID death is a myth. So is the country's demographic data. The Chinese Communist Party claims that China's total population is 1.4 billion, but various experts have questioned it. Some claimed that China's total population was as low as 800 million.
Beijing recently announced that the COVID-related death in Chinese hospitals for the past few weeks was 60K. But nobody believes the CCP's data. How many people have died since Beijing eased "Zero COVID"? The enormous number might have solved the mystery of the Chinese demographics."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnSG63d1pBk
Despite the Chinese Communist regime’s cover-up of massive COVID deaths, the truth is beginning to emerge. The Chinese people are on the brink of discovering the real impact of COVID on their country's population.
Across China, people are asking: Why are the streets so empty? Where did everyone go?
There are four key pieces of evidence suggesting that China’s COVID death toll may be in the hundreds of millions:
1:23 People noticing the empty streets and markets
7:37 A drastic disparity between birth and death rates
9:33. GROK-3’s estimate of the real COVID death toll
12:09 5% of people aged 35–44 have died
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzXed7c5tT8
yes I have read about this overrating of the Chinese population before. But are we sure they had that many people before the scamdemic? May be they played the game, to hide way smaller population? It is hard to say, because indeed, they are always hiding away.
Yes, that why I watch "Lei Lets Talk". She does a good job on reporting on China.
Why is "natural immunity" always defined as "unvaccinated people who were previously infected;" what about those of us who were never vaccinated and never got sick, because our natural immunity was able to fight off the invader in the first place?
Exactly!
Because those people are still Mind virus infected and never understood what natural immunity was to begin with.
My understanding (belief) is you have to have been infected for your body to fight it off, hence creating 'natural immunity'. You don't know you have it until your body fights off the infection. Maybe it's a mild infection and your never aware you are sick. If your body doesn't create the 'natural immunity' within itself, you would die from the infection. I'm not offended by being corrected as some doctors are ; . }
What if you don't even know you have it as your body fights it off. In other words, the invader attempts to enter and is rebuffed immediately, as an unwelcome stranger. Does this cross the threshhold of "unvaccinated people who were previously infected"?
Not a Dr so don't quote me but my understanding is the vaccines were/are created to mimic the infection in order to create immunity. Of course, they didn't and may, in fact, be making it harder for a body to create immunity, BUT, they were made with the plan 'to mimic'. Therefore, in order to have immunity a person would have to have some degree of infection invade to become immune. It might be as small as a stuffy nose or slight cough. Something many might consider allergies or less. Any of us who took vits, zinc, etc. helped build up our immune systems to fight off disastrously worse symptoms.
Long story short- exposure = developing natural immunity.
I have trouble embracing this study as being legitimate. In 2020 there were 563,000 excessive deaths in the US. That is when Covid was apparently rampant through out the nation. It is the same time when ventilators and the wrong medical treatment was being administered and contributed greatly to the excessive deaths that NAIAD pushed. In 2021 there were 1.1 million excessive deaths when the mRNA injections were being administered to our first responders and our medical personnel on a first come basis. If the mRNA injections were effective, the excessive deaths should have been less and not more in 2021. In addition the VAERS system over the last four years has reported 47,000 deaths due to the mRNA injections. Historically, the system has been grossly underutilized. Mainly, because of the time to fill out the paper work and also, why would a medical professional want to admit he delivered a deadly injection to a patient who was denied informed consent? Easily, the numbers can be multiplied by 20 or more to receive a true statistically accurate accounting. Dr. Kessler who was FDA Commissioner in the 1990's claimed about only 1% of ADR's are ever reported. I doubt we will ever know the truth and the money men pushing the mRNA injections will do everything possible to keep this RNA allopathic medicine model alive. We are playing with the blue print of life on a kindergarten scale and have not got a clue when we will accidently erase all of humanity from this endeavor. Our biowarfare boys have created a lot of biologically deadly chemicals and pathogens that the public is not aware of. Lyme disease is finally being recognized as having escaped from their Plum Island facility. This is just a new layer of potential harm to the human race. My view.
PS: Pfizer lied and said that their mRNA was 95% effective. So did our medical leadership.
Wonder what the vit D3 readings were on that 1/2 million or so fatalities in 2020?
Many were nursing home patients, so I'm guessing their Vitamin D levels were likely below normal.
PS: That is when they sold President Trump on the concept that 3% of the population, or 10 million people would die from Covid in 2020. A BIG lie!
I do too..but it is a start which I don't want to think about right now..
Thomas, Well stated. Well reasoned.
The wuflu infected Diamond Princess liner and US carrier both only had 1/4 infected telling me that either 3/4 already had natural immunity, the virus was not nearly infectious as advertised or some combination of these 2 factors applied. Do not see how this has ever been included in any of these studies but it tells me that reported deaths almost certainly highly inflated.
I studied the reports from the 2 cruise ships that had the infection and were quarantined in Jan 2020. Without knowledge of what they were dealing with or how and what to treat with, each ship having a majority >60 yr old passenger population (did I say no treatment) <1% of the ships company died. I forget the exact figure but considering they had limited medical care they had few deaths in a majority of elderly population. With Covid limited medical care was a blessing.
Only 15 (14?) died, all over 60 and had greater than 2 comorbidities.
Source?
Was reported on various internet ,sources back in 2020. Think can still be found there
Somehow I recalled that 8 died.
Not what I remember
I wish that I’d never had those damn shots! I don’t have any first hand example of damage that they did to me, but the concern that they have harmed or will harm me continues. I think the killed a several of my neighbors (two sudden heart attacks, one stroke). I can’t be sure. Certainly not effective. I have had Covid several times. I don’t trust the FDA or NIH or the CDC anymore. Experience is what you get right after you need it.
How can any study prove that people 60 and over would've died in droves if they hadn't gotten the experimental shot? I didn't get it and I know loads of other "old folks" who didn't. An experimental gene therapy shot that doesn't keep you from getting Covid or prevent you from spreading it really isn't worth taking. Eat healthy and take Vitamin D3 instead.
Indeed, a small step in the right direction. I still do not know how, with hindsight, it would ever be possible to clearly differentiate deaths "from" and "with" COVID. As such, we don't know the actual fatality rate. Moreover, from https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/epidemiology/articles/10.3389/fepid.2025.1592629/full and others, we know that the seroconversion rate by the end of 2021 was much higher than admitted. Many already had (cross-reactive) immunity. Therefore, the jabs did not hit an immunologically naive population. Finally, I would not know how to model "vaccine-effectiveness" if you are dealing with such a vast decline in "protection" (official measures). How about the 2 weeks p.i. that increase infection, or the trend for negative protection? And, at the very end, some may argue that "n=1" is what really matters.
When everyone that died in 2020 were sure to be tagged with dying from covid because cash was handed out makes this a criminal operation!
Yes, "a criminal operation" which was invisible to the people who allowed themselves to be hypnotized - but smelled like a rat to those awake and paying attention.
The lies and data obfuscation on COVID "vaccines" are too many to illicit in comments. As one example, I offer the protocol of two injections, two weeks apart, followed by a two week waiting period before a COVID injected victim was considered, ( coded ? ), as "vaccinated. Under perfect conditions COVID injected people had been injected for a full month before being considered "vaccinated". Under realistic conditions which include varying availability on both the injector side and the injectee side that time lapse is more like six weeks. Six weeks of adverse reactions, including death, coded to basically bad luck.
Since the total number of covid deaths were hugely inflated by monetizing the word "covid" on death certificates and by over reliance on inaccurate PCR testing methodologies, it is impossible to determine the mortality rate accurately. Add into this the egregiously awful treatment protocols of late intervention, respirator usage and Remdesivir, which absolutely added to the death toll, and one comes to the conclusion that ANY research based on those numbers will be inaccurate.
The only absolutely pristine real-world evidence remains the results from the Diamond Princess cruise ship early in the pandemic. The ship was quarantined for two weeks after the illness broke out, giving the virus ample time and the perfect conditions for rapid and complete spread.
Out of 3700 people, 2600 of whom were passengers, about 700 became ill. 14 died, all of them older.
So, for the older passengers, about 1 in 5 became sick, and 1 in 50 died. Among the crew, about 1 in 10 became sick and zero died. And this is with essentially nothing in terms of medical support.
A totally enclosed and quarantined subject group, consisting of mainly older adults with a sprinkling of young service people, and the mortality and morbidity rate accurately reflect the effect of this novel virus without bias and gaslighting.
At the same time a US carrier with 4000 sailors got infected. Only 1/4 became ill and only 1 died.
Exactly so.
Thank you for sharing this insight into the more likely success rates of Covid vaccinations and the populations that benefited most. Issues that should be considered in the event of a next pandemic.
I and likely some others bridle a bit over being targeted for vaccinating.
Personally am over 60 and would thus be in the group targeted for vaccination. I didn't get vaccinated. During the period after omicron, I contracted confirmed covid. I received monochromal antibodies and recovered. Imo the rx didnt seem particularly helpful. It was at the point their use was in quesrion.
Imo, an element that doesn't get factored into discussion is the impact repurposed drugs could have had (as compared to vaccines). Prompt drug treatment at onset of illness surely could have saved a substantial portion of the afflicted.
It would have avoided vaccine harms. It would have less financially destructive.
Should another (bird flu) respiratory crisis arise one hopes for more enclusive considerations.
The estimates of "Lives saved" is in my opinion untrustworthy as it is based on numerous assumptions stated in the methodology including this one: "We assume that absent vaccination, all people would have been infected during the Omicron period." Too many assumptions. This doesn't square with the other research showing the COVID-19 injections INCREASED risk of developing COVID-19. Numerous estimate, including those by Rancourt, Kirsch, and other indicate that deaths from vaccination from were closer to the neighborhood of 500,000. I have a lot of respect for Ioannidis, but I think he had to back away from the actual data to get this study published, and settled for a partial victory. This partial victory may have been Pyrrhic, since it allows the claim that the vaccines saved lives, which has not been shown by rigorous science.
In the immortal words of Scoobydoo: "Ruh roh Reggy".
Falling dominoes ahead.
I'm not an epidemiologist but I can appreciate from the study and your analysis that the most likely to have benefited from the vaccine were those 60+ and not debilitated. It helps weed out the groups that were not benefited. It should put a pause on blind acceptance of vaccination by public health officials. This could help ACIP in advising and making recommendations to CDC/HHS.
Could have happened that way. I don't want to get into it.. but I was over 65 and never got the vaccination.. and got Covid.. almost ALL my friends who (I said almost) who did take the three or four vaccines.. sustained long term Covid issues based on pre existing conditions.. and this is not anecdotal.. I have many friends who now have stage 2 or 3 kidney disease.. and a multitude of other issues.. so I do not agree w/ the concept of people over 65 should have got the vaccine in part because the VACCINE(S) were such a mess.. some people got Moderna, some Pfizer. some from Urgent care.. w/ unknown origin.. so there are many variables.. then the boosters.. which were sourced from God knows where. I used to build Medical Databases and clinical trials for a living.. so whenever that Database if finally compiled.. including informed consent... and if the person actually remember WHAT THEY TOOK and when.. we may never know. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION... just sayin..
I also did not take the vaccine and i’m glad I didn’t because in June thru Aug 2021 I had a life-threatening bacteremia which led to open heart surgery in early 2022 (age 59 at that time). My mother-in-law had Covid real bad in Nov. 2021 and we treated her as per the algorithm of Dr. McCullough and she made it. I wanted to be tested to see if I had antibodies to Covid prior to my surgery, and I did!
Because I don't interact with a lot of people daily (I see more cows and farm animals on any given day), i’ve only heard of all the side effects from the vax. My comment was purely on the paper’s findings … and how they could cut down on using such a product (if not entirely cutting it out totally).
As a side note: AARP.. which relies on its senior subscribers to LOSE TRACK of their subscriptions because many do.. because they have moderate senior moments.. maybe has that information. I get a NEW BILL ONCE A MONTH.. even though I am paid up through 2027.. just an example... we are dealing w/ SENIOR CITIZENS.. some of whom have memory issues. BLESS THEIR HEARTS.. and MERRY CHRISTMAS.. remember?
I dropped AARP like a hot potato the moment they endorsed obamacare back 12 or 15 years ago. Been throwing away their mail unopened ever since. I wouldn't give them 15 cents if you beat me with a 2 x 4.
Joined AMAC shortly after.
Just sayin'
I get AARP stuff in the mail and I disregard it since i don't plan to retire... life with animals is constant and continual 😉
Sharp marketing on AARP to keep their revenue stream flowing!
My view. mRNA vaccines are immune suppressing as well as interfering with normal biological function.
We aren’t smart epidemiologists or vaccinologies, but here’s what our morning’s research shows:
Re: Seniors needing these shots. Cynicism alert….Well, maybe they do if you want to thin the Medicare and Social Security rolls, which are oversubscribed. Seniors seem to be dropping like flies after these shots (minutes to years), so maybe they’re not so great for the over 65 crowd after all.
Highly underreported data from VAERS/OpenVAERS shows deaths 65 or over from COVID shots at more than 9,600 in the US alone (multiply by the likely 1% under-reporting factor and you get a whole bunch more): https://www.openvaers.com/vaersapp/reports.php?died=Y&age1=65&us_only=Yes&covid_only=Yes
Per Grok:
Pre-vaccine COVID-19 infection fatality rate (IFR) by age subgroups (meta-analyses from seroprevalence studies):
* 0–19 years: ~0.0003–0.001%
* 20–49 years: ~0.01–0.03%
* 50–59 years: ~0.1–0.2%
* 60–69 years: ~0.5–1%
* 70–79 years: ~2–4%
* 80+ years: ~8–15%
Sources: O'Driscoll et al. (2021), Levin et al. (2020), Ioannidis et al. (2021–2022). IFR rises exponentially with age.
**Pre-COVID (2019), the average age at death in the US was approximately 78–79 years.** This aligns with life expectancy at birth of 78.8 years (CDC data), as most deaths occur in older age groups, making mean age at death slightly higher than life expectancy.
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Re: Lives Saved…
'It's corruption of science, not truth': Aaron Siri exposes WHO's 'vaccines saved 154M lives' claim (09/10/25, video 11:18)
Numbers from “studies” and “modeling” appear to be smoke and mirrors with perhaps a little wishful thinking and fairy dust sprinkled in. Attorney Aaron Siri has explained this well in many presentations, including these:
* Clip from Ron Johnson Hearing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh6r5rIo4Jw
* Siri Written Testimony for Ron Johnson Hearing: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Siri-Testimony.pdf
* Full Ron Johnson Hearing: Congressional hearing titled 'How the Corruption of Science Has Impacted Public Perception and Policies Regarding Vaccines': https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/hearings/how-the-corruption-of-science-has-impacted-public-perception-and-policies-regarding-vaccines/
Did these Doctors make the list?
https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/80-canadian-doctors-dead-following-covid-19-vaccine-mandates-as-death-toll-continues-to-rise/
80 Canadian doctors dead following COVID-19 vaccine ,mandates as death toll continues to rise.
Lost Canadian physicians whose names and faces appear here.
80 Canadian MDs “boosted” and dead
by Dr Mark Trozzi
"Around the world, the extreme body count of men, women and children who have been injured or died following the forced and misrepresented genetic injections, continues to grow. The injections are dangerous based on their declared content, but they have many undeclared toxic ingredients as well. No one is spared from the assault on our rights and health.
Though many doctors have maintained their income by complying with and participating in the criminal injection campaign; they are still required to roll up their sleeves and take their turns in this sick game of Russian roulette. In 2022 we now see dramatically increased death rates among young injected Canadian physicians .
Here is a recent compilation of Canada’s growing number of injected and lost medical doctors (currently 80). Our condolences go to the family’s of the lost Canadian physicians whose names and faces appear here."
https://www.drtrozzi.news/p/80-canadian-mds-boosted-and-dead
1616 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 1114 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection...
It is definitely not normal for so many mainly young athletes to suffer from cardiac arrests or to die while playing their sport, but this year it is happening. Many of these heart issues and deaths come shortly after they get a COVID vaccine. While it is possible this can happen to people who did not get a COVID vaccine, the sheer numbers clearly point to the only obvious cause.
Important Notes: The number of dead are included in the total number. There are also dozens of reports that are not included in the total number shown in the headline because they are not or may not be vaccine-related. The so-called health professionals running the COVID vaccine programs around the world keep repeating that “the COVID vaccine is a normal vaccine and it is safe and effective.”
326 Athlete cardiac arrests, serious issues, 183 dead, after COVID shot
Back in Friday, December 17, 2021 by: News Editors
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/
This story will grow over time(2021 to
Follow link, each victim(All 1616) is listed along with a news link.
Here is a non-exhaustive list of injuries reported. Most were cardiac arrest.
Cardiac Arrest
Blood Clots or Thrombosis
Stroke
Irregular Heartbeat
Arrhythmia
Neuropathy
Death
Thank you - very helpful info.
This study is fine, based on the parameters it used. However, it does not address what the IFR results would have been if ivermectin and Hcq been widely used on the sick.
It is designed to make injections of RNA acceptable!