It's not just medicating the kids. I can tell you all things old are new again. Be aware that physicians are now mandated to ask all patients if they are sad or depressed or have thoughts of suicide because... the antidepressant drugs must be prescribed! The anvil hung over the heads of the docs is - if they do not pursue advocating for antidepressant meds and something goes wrong - THEY are held accountable. Clever, but evil Pharma.
In New York, if you don't answer "no" to thoughts of suicide, they are legally required to call 911 and have a team of police officers take you forcibly to a psychiatric emergency room; otherwise they may be liable for your self-harm.
SSRI's were suggested for my oldest son by none other than his Aunt, who happens to be a special needs teacher, when he was about 7. Lack of attention, interest in video games, hyper, etc. So a normal boy.
Helped out with Boy Scout summer camp when he was 13 or so. Of the 20 kids at camp from his troop he was the ONLY one not medicated.
Tragic state of affairs that the go to for the adults is shoving meds in your kids to "tame" them and from the story of Jill's sister (thank you for sharing that) the medical establishment has been at it a long time.
I wonder if some of these ADD kids may be suffering from a gut biome that lacks various types of bacterial colonies. I know wiping out these colonies can cause functional ADD because it happened to me after receiving three 30-day courses of IV antibiotics, 2g Centriaxone/day. It took several years for me to learn that a) my brain is fine and b) most of our neurotransmitters are manufactured in the gut. Most MDs know nothing about this; I finally got a diagnosis from a medical scientist (MIT PhD, Chemistry).
There is a gastroenterologist, I believe her name is Dr. Hassan (?), who does clinical studies and has reported that Americans in general lack variety in bacterial colonies in their gut. (She also found that those with high bifida bacteria tended to not get Covid, while those deficient tended to get Covid.)
About 12 years ago, before all this happened to me, I found a book by a pediatrician who had done clinical studies on people who had undergone extensive antibiotic therapy from the ages of 6 months through 6 years. One of his unexpected findings was that they had a higher than normal tendency to become seriously clinically depressed in their mid 20s. I loaned this book to a friend who fit that profile; she neither read it nor returned it. Does anyone know the title of this book?
thanks for the tip ! been on antibiotics from early on till age 14 when I had pneumonia and they did no longer help. hence my grey teeth, only found out recently that is from it, too. And had a few bouts with depression. Found her book. It is on Amazon, and there is also a large article but very medicaleese LOL
Thanks for sharing this Dr. Malone. The book sounds very interesting to me.
I have two related stories of people in my life that in my mind were harmed in horrible ways by this mental health and medical system with drugs and treatments. I had an aunt Antonette, my mother’s sister. The family in a way hid her from us as young children. She was institutionalized and I’m sure given many drugs for what I would say to sedate her. I found out later Antonette had been raped by a man who from what I know disappeared from this world shortly after this happened, but that’s another story. With Aunt Antonette the doctors decided to give her shock treatment and from what I could see, and this was before I was born, that was the end of a functioning aunt I may have ever had. Antonette actually lived a long horrible life institutionalized until she finally died. It seemed like such a sad existence of a life. There was a very small quiet service for her, my grandparents had set aside the money for.
The other story was a relative very close to me, very close, diagnosed with epilepsy. The doctors put her on Dilantin for years and years. Whenever she had an “episode” which wasn’t a typical seizure, it seemed like a deep day dream, at least to me, they would threaten her with the loss of her license, a change in medication, etc.. At this point she has been taken off all meds and is doing fine. I guess the epilepsy either went away or never existed in the first place.
I today question what this system and our schools do to our children. I think they are producing a generation of mental illness instead of a generation of self sustaining functioning adults.
My wife sees a lot of kids with “mental problems” and she always tells me how disappointing the mental health treatments are. Very few ever seem to be fixed. My brother John is another example. All of his times put into rehab failed. They failed him and that failed my family. It was very tough when he died at 48 years old.
To expound further...a prof in college knew head of the psychiatric assn.; had been committed 3X. They did (do?) go thru deep analysis which I do not believe the ave. mind can handle. Our little neuroses, unless really harmful, should be left alone. Consider them mental scar tissue. You do not want, I think, to rip them all off and then rebuild them in mass...which is what I gather happens in deep analysis. James I am sure carpenter is covered with scars and imagine tearing them all off and growing them back all at once. That is what deep analysis does to the mind and why I think very few docs who undergo it come out unscathed.
My mistrust of the medical establishment began when my wife at 45 was urged to get checked out for a possible cancer diagnosis and prevention because of her parents' medical history. Both her parents had died from cancer within three years of each other in their early sixties. Neither of us had a regular doctor, having been healthy most of our lives except for the normal maladies one has throughout life which was taken care of at the local rural medical center. After her initial visit, I asked her how it went and she said it was a rather short appointment, and that the lady she had chosen was very nice. Then she said that she had been prescribed Zoloft. I was rather surprised at that and asked how that came about. In the course of going through the normal interview questions common to all new patients, she was asked if she was depressed, to which she had replied in the affirmative. After watching the drugged out effects of Valium on my mom for 20 years, I over-reacted. I was pissed, which didn't help the situation, but after a heart to heart talk, we decided she needed a different doctor. I could not believe this doctor would diagnose her with treatable depression after a fifteen minute visit. Of course she was depressed, with the recent loss of both parents from a disease that she might possibly be inclined to develop, it's a natural part of the grieving process.
That was my "mistrust", then along came my "disgust" resulting from Covid.
What a read! Husband and I look forward to buying the book.
Thanks Robert and Jill for sharing part of your inner most sanctum, with all it's trials and tribulations, along with the book summary. There is SO much in this post. The pain of the human condition. Who is normal and who is not?
How does anyone, bogged down with meds and an entreched system, have such an epiphany?
My personal experience is, bi-polar folks are often savant, one way or another they are very often brilliant. Is this from perinatal exposure, or depletion that wires these folks differently, who knows?
Being a retired nurse, I have seen people utterley beyond normal function - usually most often from an otherwise stable family. It is heart wrenching to witness such anguish and all the family despair that goes with their loved one.
It is curious that some psychiatrists, the type I would prefer to seek, look at an individual as a total "organism" (for want of a better word)......... with things going in and stuff coming out - including sweat - and all the hard and soft-wiring mishaps that may take place in-between. Fascinating stuff; recalling a Dad who was an older plumber; frequently bed bound with depression and chronic exhaustion - well before "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" was coined. After being menatlly crippled for some years, his doctor referred him on to an environmental specialist doctor, who cut some significant amount of the patient's hair for analysis. The urgent results were hastily relayed as said patient's hair analysis revealed this man was heavily poisoned with lead.
He attended a clinic for many rounds of intravenous Chelation Therapy, to bind the lead to facilitate excretion. Over months, the depression lifted; his life returned. Astonishing.
For a selct group of psychatric practitionerrs, the field is evolving to embrace treatments that may ameliorate, or cure people. Very exciting.
Wow, I hadn't remembered hair analysis as a tool in a long time! There was a time when most people I knew were having hair cut from the back of the lower head and then using a weight mechanism to get the right amount to send to a lab. It could tell the amount of many toxins; lead, arsenic, mercury and many more. This was in the 70's and 80's. I'll have to check to see if it is still utilized.
Ditto ditto, from Elaine H, above. Thank you for sharing Dr. Jill's sister Christine's story, Dr Malone, it was very moving. My older sister was about her age, came out as gay in high school in SoCal in the early 1960's, no heavyweight therapy or medication, though, that I remember, just a lot of anger and resentment, and death from lung cancer at 68. Lordie. Our Pop's love kept us all together.
Thank you for sharing information about Laura Delano and her book. After 30 years in the medical psychiatric pipeline, the Inner Compass Initiative was a lifeline as I questioned my treatment and weaned myself off medications. There is light at the end of the tunnel and I look forward to reading Laura’s story as validation for myself and so many others.
Several years ago, I read the book, "The Magnesium Miracle", by Carolyn Dean, MD, ND. One small section of the book talks about the role that magnesium plays in regulating serotonin - its release & uptake by brain cells. "The body needs magnesium in order to release & bind adequate amounts of serotonin in the brain for balanced mental functioning". In other words, what serotonin really needs is magnesium, instead of SSRIs that prevent its breakdown & elimination. I suspect it is the rare person that knows this & I seriously doubt that your physician will make this assessment. It is far easier & more lucrative to simply prescribe an SSRI, such as Prozac. Since magnesium resides in the tissues, a serum level is a very poor indicator of your body's magnesium level. There are other more reliable measurements for evaluating magnesium levels, which are discussed in the book. It is not a new book - the last copyright is 2014, but an excellent source of information on the overall importance of magnesium. I suspect that many people taking SSRIs are actually seriously deficient in magnesium & correcting it could make big difference. Perhaps even make it somewhat easier to wean off of the SSRI medication (with professional guidance).
Women need Magnesium Citrate, different from men. I take 250 mg per day at the end of the day. It also should not be taken with your calcium. Calcium hurts absorption of Magnesium. Did not know about the serotonin effect.
Wow, today the Epoch times has a story on teens and drugs and now this from you Dr Malone.
Now for the personal side.
In late January this year my wife was prescribed Topiramate to supposedly help with severe migraines. On the 4th of feb she told me she was having suicidal thoughts. Primary care referred us to a mental care unit in a hospital that after a week she was more or less herself and released.
But now has a cocktail of drugs including fluoxetine, hydroxyzine and clonazepam. So after 2 months of this she is not herself and it isn't working. She has no personality and resembles a cross between a petulant child and a harridan. It is a daily struggle and I see a terrible future at this point but trying to guide her through. She can't keep a straight thought or do math. Doesn't know what day it is or even the month.. I guess this will be a book to read now as I have been reading a lot of things on medical since the whole covid thing started.
Thank you for writing on this today.
Bill
I just ordered from amazon for today's delivery, should be worth every penny.
Our gut biome is a BIG deal in terms of gut-brain connection.
Cesarean sections, lack of breastfeeding, antibiotics, oral contraception, steroids and regular consumption of sugar, interferes with a healthy biome, therefore has a corollary effects on the brain. Dr Sabine Hazan; https://x.com/SabinehazanMD
On some occasions, environmental toxins do have a lot to answer for, and are worth investigating. Just worwhile taking the multi-faceted approach of investigating, for process of elimination.
Good luck and blessings for your compassionate care of your dear wife.
Changed my lifestyle and at age 82 first time in my life I said to myself "I am happy."
I might have thought that in my youth through teenage years but I don't remember thinking about it.
I do remember by age 40 an ongoing self hatred that many times I thought that I should just kill my worthless self. Never attempted it, but the self hatred was ongoing all the time. I do recall while a graduate student at Berkeley at age 22 when faced with the decision about pursing a PhD I slept 14 hours per day.
I must have good genes, and a lifelong Mediterranean put me in reasonably good condition by US standards, namely on 5 prescriptions to hold off chronic diseases. The Covid "pandemic" education led me to be responsible for my own health. Changing lifestyle now off all prescriptions and while I am aware that my emotions can go up and down, the debilitating self hatred is gone.
Here is what I do: intermittent fasting, first meal after 11 am with lots of vegetables and eggs, learning how to use the CPAP machine and sleep better. Do need to exercise more.
I'll bet that there aren't many people who haven't had experience with someone they know with a mental diagnosis. I have known plenty, both personally and professionally. It reminds me of the association of hysterical and hysterectomy. My stepmother's mother was in an institution for most of her adult life. I believe she was raped, by a family member or otherwise. I have had clients that were so sick from the meds. and dangerous to themselves without them. There is a long way to go in the understanding of the psyche, our fear of illness can cause undo harm.
The medical profession is fast losing all claims to credibility. The latest - we were questioning some coverage decisions by United Healthcare, we found out that NYU Langone billed $44,000 - for three hour ER visit. I have no words........
Probably everyone knows directly or indirectly someone who has suffered at the hands of the psychiatric industry. I'm going to order 2 of these books to start off with. I've had a deep interest in psychology since high school, so one is for me. My older son has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and is on 2 drugs. The second copy of the book is for him. The story of Jill's sister is so tragic. I had a cousin whose story is just as horrific. She suffered horribly and died at a young age. Thank you for sharing. Many will be helped by it. Laura Delano's curiosity and courage saved her life.
Been my opinion most Freudian psychologists are unhinged to begin with main!y because of their obsession with sex and to hand over to them a playpen of sadistic procedures, a witches cauldron of chemicals and unlimited permission to use them is little if anything short of criminal.
Carl Jung dabbled in seances and his writings were filled with occult language—he was highly “acknowledged” but IMO he caused irreparable harm to many and probably led others into the occult.
I am reading a book called A More Excellent Way by Dr. Henry W Wright on spiritual healing. he writes that one of the great tragedies of psychology in the teaching of Jungian psychology is it eliminates the spirit of man totally and inserts in its place the dualistic compartments of the soul. (The conscious and the collective unconscious) he writes “I do not find these concepts anywhere in scripture. What I do find in scripture is the archetypes and dark shadows are in fact evil spirits, principalities, powers and the rulers of the darkness of this world.” “ early on in Carl Jung’s investigation into spiritism and into eastern mysticism, he became a channeler for invisible entities. It is in his writings. The principle entity he channeled was a spirit entity called Philemon. He also channeled to lesser spirit entities called anima and animus, who became the foundation of the male and female principles and young in psychology. “ in fact, these male/female principles of anima and animus can even be found in Christian ministry/counseling circles as a therapeutic model“ “ much of modern Jungian psychology was written by invisible spirit beings.” In his early writings he called them evil spirits. “ he considered Christianity to be a dead religion and decided to create an alternative to Christianity. he deliberately took the words “evil spirit,“ changed the concept and called them archetypes and dark shadows to accommodate himself to a more scientific approach and he duped mankind, including the Christian church, and lastly, even himself” Dr. Wright quotes Hebrews 4:12... “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intentions of the heart.”
This scripture makes the dualistic compartment of the soul taught by Jung in psychology a heresy. A heresy is a statement of truth that is not truth. It does not match up with the word.Hebrews 4:13 says “Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.”
Dr. Wright goes on to say that the creatures mentioned in that verse above are the archetypes and dark shadows of Jungian psychology who reside not in the collective unconscious compartment of the human soul but reside in the human spirit because they are spirit, comparing like with like. For example second Timothy 1:7 says For God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. He states fear is a spirit and can control our thoughts both in spirit and in soul. But we have been called out of this darkness. We have been called out of occultism. It is a really good book to me!
My poor father was diagnosed as a manic depressive, put on prozac and my mother had him hospitalized on occasions, when she considered him out of control
Occasionally, he managed to escape us, with a prostitute named Betty. He ultimately had a CVA and after dramatic efforts to save him, he spent 10 trying years in a nursing home. He ended up dying in a hospital. When my mother called to see how he was doing, she was informed he'd died a couple days ago.
I've spent my life in shades of grey. As a child my Mother had me put on ritalin. I concluded it was of no merit and refused to continue taking it. After referrals to various specialists (who concluded they had nothing to offer), she settled for my taking psych in college (a heal theyself exercise). Given the folks I've encountered and the experiences you describe here, I'm thankful that, so far, I've gotten off easy.
So, what is the ideal? What should young folks aspire to? There are many brands in psychology - psychiatry. One brand includes religion. I guess I'm inclined to suspect that, if at all possible, learn one's facts, look into the theories and practices and do ones best to chart ones own way.
Its a sunny day here and hopefully where you are. Enjoy!
It's not just medicating the kids. I can tell you all things old are new again. Be aware that physicians are now mandated to ask all patients if they are sad or depressed or have thoughts of suicide because... the antidepressant drugs must be prescribed! The anvil hung over the heads of the docs is - if they do not pursue advocating for antidepressant meds and something goes wrong - THEY are held accountable. Clever, but evil Pharma.
In New York, if you don't answer "no" to thoughts of suicide, they are legally required to call 911 and have a team of police officers take you forcibly to a psychiatric emergency room; otherwise they may be liable for your self-harm.
It's getting scarier by the minute. Nothing makes sense anymore.
Morning Dr.'s Malone.
Adding this book to my reading list.
SSRI's were suggested for my oldest son by none other than his Aunt, who happens to be a special needs teacher, when he was about 7. Lack of attention, interest in video games, hyper, etc. So a normal boy.
Helped out with Boy Scout summer camp when he was 13 or so. Of the 20 kids at camp from his troop he was the ONLY one not medicated.
Tragic state of affairs that the go to for the adults is shoving meds in your kids to "tame" them and from the story of Jill's sister (thank you for sharing that) the medical establishment has been at it a long time.
I wonder if some of these ADD kids may be suffering from a gut biome that lacks various types of bacterial colonies. I know wiping out these colonies can cause functional ADD because it happened to me after receiving three 30-day courses of IV antibiotics, 2g Centriaxone/day. It took several years for me to learn that a) my brain is fine and b) most of our neurotransmitters are manufactured in the gut. Most MDs know nothing about this; I finally got a diagnosis from a medical scientist (MIT PhD, Chemistry).
There is a gastroenterologist, I believe her name is Dr. Hassan (?), who does clinical studies and has reported that Americans in general lack variety in bacterial colonies in their gut. (She also found that those with high bifida bacteria tended to not get Covid, while those deficient tended to get Covid.)
About 12 years ago, before all this happened to me, I found a book by a pediatrician who had done clinical studies on people who had undergone extensive antibiotic therapy from the ages of 6 months through 6 years. One of his unexpected findings was that they had a higher than normal tendency to become seriously clinically depressed in their mid 20s. I loaned this book to a friend who fit that profile; she neither read it nor returned it. Does anyone know the title of this book?
It's Sabine Hazan, MD. https://x.com/SabinehazanMD
thanks for the tip ! been on antibiotics from early on till age 14 when I had pneumonia and they did no longer help. hence my grey teeth, only found out recently that is from it, too. And had a few bouts with depression. Found her book. It is on Amazon, and there is also a large article but very medicaleese LOL
Typo: That should be "Ceftriaxone" not "Centriaxone."
Thanks for sharing this Dr. Malone. The book sounds very interesting to me.
I have two related stories of people in my life that in my mind were harmed in horrible ways by this mental health and medical system with drugs and treatments. I had an aunt Antonette, my mother’s sister. The family in a way hid her from us as young children. She was institutionalized and I’m sure given many drugs for what I would say to sedate her. I found out later Antonette had been raped by a man who from what I know disappeared from this world shortly after this happened, but that’s another story. With Aunt Antonette the doctors decided to give her shock treatment and from what I could see, and this was before I was born, that was the end of a functioning aunt I may have ever had. Antonette actually lived a long horrible life institutionalized until she finally died. It seemed like such a sad existence of a life. There was a very small quiet service for her, my grandparents had set aside the money for.
The other story was a relative very close to me, very close, diagnosed with epilepsy. The doctors put her on Dilantin for years and years. Whenever she had an “episode” which wasn’t a typical seizure, it seemed like a deep day dream, at least to me, they would threaten her with the loss of her license, a change in medication, etc.. At this point she has been taken off all meds and is doing fine. I guess the epilepsy either went away or never existed in the first place.
I today question what this system and our schools do to our children. I think they are producing a generation of mental illness instead of a generation of self sustaining functioning adults.
Gave my dad shock treatments. When they failed recommended alcohol. He became a drunk. Hence my lack of love for that profession
My wife sees a lot of kids with “mental problems” and she always tells me how disappointing the mental health treatments are. Very few ever seem to be fixed. My brother John is another example. All of his times put into rehab failed. They failed him and that failed my family. It was very tough when he died at 48 years old.
To expound further...a prof in college knew head of the psychiatric assn.; had been committed 3X. They did (do?) go thru deep analysis which I do not believe the ave. mind can handle. Our little neuroses, unless really harmful, should be left alone. Consider them mental scar tissue. You do not want, I think, to rip them all off and then rebuild them in mass...which is what I gather happens in deep analysis. James I am sure carpenter is covered with scars and imagine tearing them all off and growing them back all at once. That is what deep analysis does to the mind and why I think very few docs who undergo it come out unscathed.
Morning Mr. Goodrich.
Good morning Mark!!
My mistrust of the medical establishment began when my wife at 45 was urged to get checked out for a possible cancer diagnosis and prevention because of her parents' medical history. Both her parents had died from cancer within three years of each other in their early sixties. Neither of us had a regular doctor, having been healthy most of our lives except for the normal maladies one has throughout life which was taken care of at the local rural medical center. After her initial visit, I asked her how it went and she said it was a rather short appointment, and that the lady she had chosen was very nice. Then she said that she had been prescribed Zoloft. I was rather surprised at that and asked how that came about. In the course of going through the normal interview questions common to all new patients, she was asked if she was depressed, to which she had replied in the affirmative. After watching the drugged out effects of Valium on my mom for 20 years, I over-reacted. I was pissed, which didn't help the situation, but after a heart to heart talk, we decided she needed a different doctor. I could not believe this doctor would diagnose her with treatable depression after a fifteen minute visit. Of course she was depressed, with the recent loss of both parents from a disease that she might possibly be inclined to develop, it's a natural part of the grieving process.
That was my "mistrust", then along came my "disgust" resulting from Covid.
Cures are not profitable, while treatment is.
Super and succinct comment!
What a read! Husband and I look forward to buying the book.
Thanks Robert and Jill for sharing part of your inner most sanctum, with all it's trials and tribulations, along with the book summary. There is SO much in this post. The pain of the human condition. Who is normal and who is not?
How does anyone, bogged down with meds and an entreched system, have such an epiphany?
My personal experience is, bi-polar folks are often savant, one way or another they are very often brilliant. Is this from perinatal exposure, or depletion that wires these folks differently, who knows?
Being a retired nurse, I have seen people utterley beyond normal function - usually most often from an otherwise stable family. It is heart wrenching to witness such anguish and all the family despair that goes with their loved one.
It is curious that some psychiatrists, the type I would prefer to seek, look at an individual as a total "organism" (for want of a better word)......... with things going in and stuff coming out - including sweat - and all the hard and soft-wiring mishaps that may take place in-between. Fascinating stuff; recalling a Dad who was an older plumber; frequently bed bound with depression and chronic exhaustion - well before "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" was coined. After being menatlly crippled for some years, his doctor referred him on to an environmental specialist doctor, who cut some significant amount of the patient's hair for analysis. The urgent results were hastily relayed as said patient's hair analysis revealed this man was heavily poisoned with lead.
He attended a clinic for many rounds of intravenous Chelation Therapy, to bind the lead to facilitate excretion. Over months, the depression lifted; his life returned. Astonishing.
For a selct group of psychatric practitionerrs, the field is evolving to embrace treatments that may ameliorate, or cure people. Very exciting.
https://www.psychiatryredefined.org/about/
Hoping that all people, needing, or, leaving treatment, find the right support for their situation.
Can't wait to read this book.
Wow, I hadn't remembered hair analysis as a tool in a long time! There was a time when most people I knew were having hair cut from the back of the lower head and then using a weight mechanism to get the right amount to send to a lab. It could tell the amount of many toxins; lead, arsenic, mercury and many more. This was in the 70's and 80's. I'll have to check to see if it is still utilized.
Ditto ditto, from Elaine H, above. Thank you for sharing Dr. Jill's sister Christine's story, Dr Malone, it was very moving. My older sister was about her age, came out as gay in high school in SoCal in the early 1960's, no heavyweight therapy or medication, though, that I remember, just a lot of anger and resentment, and death from lung cancer at 68. Lordie. Our Pop's love kept us all together.
Thank you for sharing information about Laura Delano and her book. After 30 years in the medical psychiatric pipeline, the Inner Compass Initiative was a lifeline as I questioned my treatment and weaned myself off medications. There is light at the end of the tunnel and I look forward to reading Laura’s story as validation for myself and so many others.
Several years ago, I read the book, "The Magnesium Miracle", by Carolyn Dean, MD, ND. One small section of the book talks about the role that magnesium plays in regulating serotonin - its release & uptake by brain cells. "The body needs magnesium in order to release & bind adequate amounts of serotonin in the brain for balanced mental functioning". In other words, what serotonin really needs is magnesium, instead of SSRIs that prevent its breakdown & elimination. I suspect it is the rare person that knows this & I seriously doubt that your physician will make this assessment. It is far easier & more lucrative to simply prescribe an SSRI, such as Prozac. Since magnesium resides in the tissues, a serum level is a very poor indicator of your body's magnesium level. There are other more reliable measurements for evaluating magnesium levels, which are discussed in the book. It is not a new book - the last copyright is 2014, but an excellent source of information on the overall importance of magnesium. I suspect that many people taking SSRIs are actually seriously deficient in magnesium & correcting it could make big difference. Perhaps even make it somewhat easier to wean off of the SSRI medication (with professional guidance).
Women need Magnesium Citrate, different from men. I take 250 mg per day at the end of the day. It also should not be taken with your calcium. Calcium hurts absorption of Magnesium. Did not know about the serotonin effect.
Great information! Thank you.
Wow, today the Epoch times has a story on teens and drugs and now this from you Dr Malone.
Now for the personal side.
In late January this year my wife was prescribed Topiramate to supposedly help with severe migraines. On the 4th of feb she told me she was having suicidal thoughts. Primary care referred us to a mental care unit in a hospital that after a week she was more or less herself and released.
But now has a cocktail of drugs including fluoxetine, hydroxyzine and clonazepam. So after 2 months of this she is not herself and it isn't working. She has no personality and resembles a cross between a petulant child and a harridan. It is a daily struggle and I see a terrible future at this point but trying to guide her through. She can't keep a straight thought or do math. Doesn't know what day it is or even the month.. I guess this will be a book to read now as I have been reading a lot of things on medical since the whole covid thing started.
Thank you for writing on this today.
Bill
I just ordered from amazon for today's delivery, should be worth every penny.
How distressing William. Perhaps if you contact this/these doctors they may be able to provide another perspective, or recommend someone near you.
https://www.psychiatryredefined.org/about/
Our gut biome is a BIG deal in terms of gut-brain connection.
Cesarean sections, lack of breastfeeding, antibiotics, oral contraception, steroids and regular consumption of sugar, interferes with a healthy biome, therefore has a corollary effects on the brain. Dr Sabine Hazan; https://x.com/SabinehazanMD
On some occasions, environmental toxins do have a lot to answer for, and are worth investigating. Just worwhile taking the multi-faceted approach of investigating, for process of elimination.
Good luck and blessings for your compassionate care of your dear wife.
Changed my lifestyle and at age 82 first time in my life I said to myself "I am happy."
I might have thought that in my youth through teenage years but I don't remember thinking about it.
I do remember by age 40 an ongoing self hatred that many times I thought that I should just kill my worthless self. Never attempted it, but the self hatred was ongoing all the time. I do recall while a graduate student at Berkeley at age 22 when faced with the decision about pursing a PhD I slept 14 hours per day.
I must have good genes, and a lifelong Mediterranean put me in reasonably good condition by US standards, namely on 5 prescriptions to hold off chronic diseases. The Covid "pandemic" education led me to be responsible for my own health. Changing lifestyle now off all prescriptions and while I am aware that my emotions can go up and down, the debilitating self hatred is gone.
Here is what I do: intermittent fasting, first meal after 11 am with lots of vegetables and eggs, learning how to use the CPAP machine and sleep better. Do need to exercise more.
I'll bet that there aren't many people who haven't had experience with someone they know with a mental diagnosis. I have known plenty, both personally and professionally. It reminds me of the association of hysterical and hysterectomy. My stepmother's mother was in an institution for most of her adult life. I believe she was raped, by a family member or otherwise. I have had clients that were so sick from the meds. and dangerous to themselves without them. There is a long way to go in the understanding of the psyche, our fear of illness can cause undo harm.
Every ad for just about everything seems to have “potential” side effects of depression and suicidal thoughts in the small print.
Yes!!
The medical profession is fast losing all claims to credibility. The latest - we were questioning some coverage decisions by United Healthcare, we found out that NYU Langone billed $44,000 - for three hour ER visit. I have no words........
Probably everyone knows directly or indirectly someone who has suffered at the hands of the psychiatric industry. I'm going to order 2 of these books to start off with. I've had a deep interest in psychology since high school, so one is for me. My older son has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and is on 2 drugs. The second copy of the book is for him. The story of Jill's sister is so tragic. I had a cousin whose story is just as horrific. She suffered horribly and died at a young age. Thank you for sharing. Many will be helped by it. Laura Delano's curiosity and courage saved her life.
Been my opinion most Freudian psychologists are unhinged to begin with main!y because of their obsession with sex and to hand over to them a playpen of sadistic procedures, a witches cauldron of chemicals and unlimited permission to use them is little if anything short of criminal.
Carl Jung dabbled in seances and his writings were filled with occult language—he was highly “acknowledged” but IMO he caused irreparable harm to many and probably led others into the occult.
https://culturacolectiva.com/en/history/carl-gustav-jung-occultism/
I am reading a book called A More Excellent Way by Dr. Henry W Wright on spiritual healing. he writes that one of the great tragedies of psychology in the teaching of Jungian psychology is it eliminates the spirit of man totally and inserts in its place the dualistic compartments of the soul. (The conscious and the collective unconscious) he writes “I do not find these concepts anywhere in scripture. What I do find in scripture is the archetypes and dark shadows are in fact evil spirits, principalities, powers and the rulers of the darkness of this world.” “ early on in Carl Jung’s investigation into spiritism and into eastern mysticism, he became a channeler for invisible entities. It is in his writings. The principle entity he channeled was a spirit entity called Philemon. He also channeled to lesser spirit entities called anima and animus, who became the foundation of the male and female principles and young in psychology. “ in fact, these male/female principles of anima and animus can even be found in Christian ministry/counseling circles as a therapeutic model“ “ much of modern Jungian psychology was written by invisible spirit beings.” In his early writings he called them evil spirits. “ he considered Christianity to be a dead religion and decided to create an alternative to Christianity. he deliberately took the words “evil spirit,“ changed the concept and called them archetypes and dark shadows to accommodate himself to a more scientific approach and he duped mankind, including the Christian church, and lastly, even himself” Dr. Wright quotes Hebrews 4:12... “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intentions of the heart.”
This scripture makes the dualistic compartment of the soul taught by Jung in psychology a heresy. A heresy is a statement of truth that is not truth. It does not match up with the word.Hebrews 4:13 says “Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.”
Dr. Wright goes on to say that the creatures mentioned in that verse above are the archetypes and dark shadows of Jungian psychology who reside not in the collective unconscious compartment of the human soul but reside in the human spirit because they are spirit, comparing like with like. For example second Timothy 1:7 says For God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. He states fear is a spirit and can control our thoughts both in spirit and in soul. But we have been called out of this darkness. We have been called out of occultism. It is a really good book to me!
Also dabbled in religion but will take Jungians over Freudian any day.
Your reporting here is surely thought provoking.
My poor father was diagnosed as a manic depressive, put on prozac and my mother had him hospitalized on occasions, when she considered him out of control
Occasionally, he managed to escape us, with a prostitute named Betty. He ultimately had a CVA and after dramatic efforts to save him, he spent 10 trying years in a nursing home. He ended up dying in a hospital. When my mother called to see how he was doing, she was informed he'd died a couple days ago.
I've spent my life in shades of grey. As a child my Mother had me put on ritalin. I concluded it was of no merit and refused to continue taking it. After referrals to various specialists (who concluded they had nothing to offer), she settled for my taking psych in college (a heal theyself exercise). Given the folks I've encountered and the experiences you describe here, I'm thankful that, so far, I've gotten off easy.
So, what is the ideal? What should young folks aspire to? There are many brands in psychology - psychiatry. One brand includes religion. I guess I'm inclined to suspect that, if at all possible, learn one's facts, look into the theories and practices and do ones best to chart ones own way.
Its a sunny day here and hopefully where you are. Enjoy!
Thank you for writing this - there is no one magic bullet to good health, but when big $$$ get involved, it is hard to trust the outcomes.