That's what I was thinking too. SSRIs lead to fewer births in multiple ways. And the suicides that nobody seems to care about except friends and family.
I am not personally convinced that the "depopulation agenda" is that real, beyond its use as a "bogey man" to scare people. We are definitely experiencing a reversal in population growth in some parts of the world. But it's not clear to me that the beings controlling Earth really want this, as they could have arranged for it long ago. Their minions on Earth, though, are certainly creating an environment that is more difficult to survive in.
Larry, Re: "long ago." The Club of Rome in the late 1960's issued adamant warnings and disastrous predictions due to "over population." And Paul Ehrlich wrote the infamous "The Population Bomb" in response.
In 2003, I mentioned to my primary care doctor that I was anxious about my father, who was dying of leukemia. The doctor, who was not a specialist in psychiatry, said that I was depressed and gave me a SSRI. I took it, wanting the anxiety to stop, and for a while I felt better--because I wasn't feeling any emotions. I decided to stop the drug after my father died. The doctor kept saying that I was depressed, kept asking about the percent decrease in depression the drug produced (though I kept telling him that I wasn't depressed), and kept telling me that I had to continue the drug for the rest of my life. I stopped the SSRI anyway. A side effect of my experience was losing my trust of doctors.
I just saw Paul Ehrlich being interviewed. Like Al Gore, despite being 100% WRONG, they still trot him out as an "expert". Both true pieces of human garbage.
I realize my information is a bit esoteric and thus far-fetched for most people.
There have been several "cleansings," or extinction events, in the history of this planet. One major one that we are familiar with is the one that removed the dinosaurs from the planet. This was arranged by ETs, per the research that I trust. Another big takedown was of "Atlantis."
ET destructive technologies are much older than Earth and perfectly capable of wiping it clean.
So what we speak of here must be some sort of conflict among men. The ETs are very good at creating these, and I see that as the most likely driving force.
I agree that there is a belief among the elites that there are too many people. And of course, they don't want their own numbers to go down, so they target other groups. But I am hearing talk from people like Mike Adams that the elites are totally anti-human. And that doesn't make a lot of sense; THEY are human. ETs on the other hand, could be totally anti-human. But they, I believe, need a crowded planet here to serve their own purposes.
So I think that the idea that the elites want to replace all humans with robots or something, while plausible, is basically a propaganda story to sow discord. It is true that the elites are making it difficult to survive and be happy on Earth. But they also supply us with food, cell phones, cars, planes, entertainment and on and on. So it becomes a double-edged sword to condemn them entirely.
I believe the "Valiant Thor" story has not yet been sufficiently corroborated. It is possible, however. It is telling that in the end, Thor got kicked out. But perhaps some of his recommendations were heeded.
Larry, I'll see if i can find it, and meanwhile you can do a search, too.
Their rational is their claim that the planet is overpopulated and resources are inadequate to serve everyone. Canada, deeply aligned with WHO, with their assisted (encouraged!) suicide program is an example of employing a means to depopulate.
I stumbled across a twitter post once that had depopulation quotes by significant world leaders. They just kept going & going. Like 20 total. One was prince philip in 1988 ""In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation"
This speaks to the attitudes of various people, some of whom are likely highly psychopathic. But is this desire for - essentially - mass genocide reflected in any official group documents? Many have alleged this and I don't doubt the evil intentions of many in this group, but I would be surprised if they admitted to it in so many words, in writing. And I am not at all sure this is the actual intention of those who they ultimately serve.
Pushing trans agenda, abortion, feminism promoting women to despise men/having children, banksters getting rich over war (and resulting deaths). Covid must be their crown jewel. Create & release a virus, make a fortune off the scam "vaccine", then make ever more $ off cancer treatments for the huge cancer increases their vaccine caused, all while killing millions & many more millions in the years to come. The birthrates have dropped, so it's working.
There is certainly ample evidence that certain criminal groups would like to kill off a whole bunch of us. I am aware of that evidence. I just don't think that actually adds up to a "depopulation agenda." It's just average criminal behavior. "Agenda" implies a definite plan, and I don't think there is one. Just a lot of messing around; enough to alarm people and keep the attention off the real perpetrators.
Did you know that one of America’s leading atheists says taking SSRIs is necessary to get through life without God? In other words, giving SSRIs to millions of young Americans ensures they’ll be too numbed out to realize they have souls in need of saving!
How many of the mental disorders listed are not genetic but caused by the loss of key brain nutrients and/or caused by chemicals such as aspartame/vaccines/dyes etc. that have a toxic effect on brain function? When I became acquainted with a 10 year old boy who is receiving injections for chronic migraines which had the root cause due to his mother not cooking and feeding him fast food daily speaks volumes about what has to be fixed in our food systems. MSG was the culprit!
When physicians believe prescribing an SSRI is a quick fix answer to a mental condition is a convenient answer for the physician, but the beginning of a life long problem of health issues that can be avoided with proper analysis. VA still uses SSRI's as the number one treatment for PTSD, when other treatments can be more effective. The following quote by Dr. Candace Perth, the co-discover of the SSRI pathway which was the impetus for the creation of the multi-billion dollar SSRI class of mind altering drugs is a chilling statement.
"I am alarmed at the monster that John Hopkins neuroscientist, Solomon Snyder and I created when we discovered the simple binding assay for drug receptors 25 years ago." Quote from 20 years ago. The march still goes on to harm. Are the gate keepers inside the FDA deficient in brain power? The congressman that rally against RFK Jr. legitimate goals to fix our food system need to be called out and not re-elected.
The "lists of mental disorder" that exist at this time are their own issue. The DSM, as the biggest example, is not compiled based on science, but on various practitioners' feelings about what categories they would like to have.
This problem is compounded by the fact that most educated people have no idea what causes mental and personality problems. Steve Burgess has discovered some workable answers, as did Hubbard before him. But their findings are suppressed or ignored. In their therapies, no "diagnosis" (of a medical type) is needed. They simply work with each person to handle the things that are bothering them the most.
It is unclear at this time if that work can be successfully applied to "severe" mental health issues, and that is one problem keeping psychiatric doctors and their drug use alive. It would take a dedicated effort to learn how to apply workable therapies to people who are in very severe trouble.
Needs to be explored more. Some of it it is learned bad behavior from parent because imprinting is part of the equation of maturing. Complex issues because of negative lifestyles and the simple answer is to drug for profit and who cares if the full potential of the patient is never achieved.
Amen, Dr Malone. As a therapist for many years I found myself nodding in agreement throughout this article. I had an advantage. My work first started with those who were dying or grieving. This, I initially thought, was a bad start, but it was the best thing that could have happened to me. It detached me from the DSM nonsense. Who cares about a dx if you are dying or in deep grief. It also forced me to learn ways to help people cope every day while experiencing huge roadblocks to feeling well. It taught me how to listen and understand without even a tiny thought of relying on some medicinal bandaid. It taught me about my own helplessness, and deal with that for what it was. I developed a deep respect for my clients and for our work. Rather than move to a traditional clinic I focused in the first 20 years of my work with those who were dying and grieving. What a blessing.
The psychiatrists I have known over the years would spend nearly all of their time with patients talking about the medicine! Short visits to check in and see if things were ok and monitor side effects. I would suggest for them and for any therapist to work for a year or two with the grieving and dying and see what happens.
And even though I am (sometimes painfully) aware of better treatments for a wide range of human conditions, the fact that they take time and resources to administer - and to train skilled practitioners - has effectively prevented them from being widely used. I take care of a woman (15 years younger than me actually) who is slowly dying from some sort of gradual lung failure (along with other problems like obesity) and which I feel helpless to help because her condition prevents her from benefiting from most of the effective treatments that I am aware of.
"Maybe it's time to return to healing people in that old-fashioned way by promoting traditional values, preserving family relationships, and being involved in one’s community. By talking to people to discover what is wrong in their lives. By providing real guidance. By surrounding them with a supportive community."
Duh, of course, but promoting such remedies provides no profit for Big Pharma or the medical establishment.
And unfortunately Ned, the dysfunction of families and church has gone on for so long that it is needed to start over again. This is a long haul fix, the current families will need to be healthy for at least a generation to make a dent in the system of disrepair.
I am sure that a more traditional approach to life would help many people. But mental health issues have plagued humanity for centuries, making it obvious that workable answers have either not been discovered, or if they have (which they have), have not been widely adopted. At this point it boils down to a political struggle between people who have the answers and vested interests who only want to prolong their dominance on the planet.
I strongly suspect that most physicians fail to mention the role that magnesium plays in regulating serotonin levels. Carolyn Dean, MD, ND, explains this association very well in her book, "The Magnesium Miracle". According to Dr. Dean, " Magnesium is important because it is a necessary element in the release & uptake of serotonin by brain cells. With proper amounts of magnesium, nature makes sufficient serotonin & you experience emotional balance. But when stress depletes magnesium, a vicious cycle spins out-of-control & depression can occur". More people experiencing symptoms of depression & emotional imbalance should seek the advice of a doctor who is knowledgeable about the role that many elements such as magnesium play in our physical, emotional, & mental well-being. Sadly, most doctors don't have a clue & frankly, could probably care less about the real underlying problem. Choose wisely when seeking medical advice.
Finding the right holistic medical professional is the only way this would ever be tried and people need to seek these people out. Your life depends on it.
There's a lot I can say, but I won't because I don't want to air other people's private details.
People get prescribed this stuff, sometimes for the "right" reasons, and sometimes for the trivial ones noted in the article. Once they get you on this stuff they have a customer for the rest of your life. Which might or might not be a long time.
An all-too-common course is getting the SSRIs, things are great for a few months, then the side effects show up. Some of them are mentioned in this article. Then the person stops taking the drugs. The crash from coming off leads to all manner of irrational behavior, suicide being common, but that's not even the worst possible outcome.
So should they get off it slowly? Sorry, that's basically impossible. I know people who have tried that, gotten down to the smallest available dose, then tried to stop completely. Unimaginable blackness is the way I've heard it described. So they're stuck with the side effects.
I was on one for a couple of months. Felt disconnected & like I was watching my life instead of living it. Went cold turkey. It was a lot easier than getting off prilosec, which made my life hell for a couple of months. Also cold turkey.
The list of harmful medications is growing to unmanageable. "Vaccines", PPIs, statins, SSRIs, weight loss drugs, etc.. What they all have in common is patents.
Yes. But what they also have in common is a materialist philosophy that has shut us off from more workable answers. From what I can tell, ivermectin was originally manufactured under patent (by Merck), but in an unusual show of largess, was "donated" for international use to battle various parasite-related human diseases (to say nothing of animal diseases).
The larger problem is that drugs are not the answer for most of what ails mankind, yet the materialist orientation of the sciences has prevented other answers from being explored or becoming widely used.
Well, not everyone is medically depressed nor seriously physically ill. Why isn't everyone sick? I wonder if there has been a deep study re: sick and healthy people to parse differences, to identify patterns, and to ferret out causes. Such a study would be extremely complex. But now we have AI...
Yep doctors and psychiatrists push antidepressants, and esp dispense the SSRI prozac to women like candy.
Most depression I feel, as I am afflicted, is circumstantial -- loneliness, no family, people texting and disconnected from society, people don't take time to help or offer friendship. So situation is getting worse due to social media, texting and even churches don't offer friendships, often just a place to go for an hr or so. People just too busy to take "lost ducklings" under their wing. Guess they weren't taught that at home; AND lots of people are missing the empathy gene. Also missing manners, walk around like zombies glued to their cell! Can't say hello even. SICK SCARY WORLD. ALL the ssri's cannot help the loss of compassion, social interaction, friendliness, & REAL LIVE BODY friends, yes live people not facebook " friends" or AI friends, or other internet friends. Heads up: Clicks are not friends. 😊
My daughter coaches a middle school girls' volleyball team and she said that approximately half the team is on anti-depressants! Doesn't anyone know how to help kids learn to cope? Doesn't sound like it. You can't phone in parenting.
Hi Maria. Same thing a few years ago while I was helping chaperone a Boy Scout camp for a week. (Yes I know it is Scouting to include girls, but I will call it Boy Scouts...I'm old as my kids keep reminding me).
Before dinner all the kids lined up from our troop, except my son, to get medicated; all SSRI's or some kind of head med. It was disturbing and sad.
Yes, some do know how to help kids learn to cope. But there are not enough of them, and their work is being ignored. More people should get trained as Volunteer Ministers, which is free to do online.
* Too Many Notes 08/16/25: Mental Health & Psychoactive Drugs — The Dark Side of SSRIs with Laura Delano & Is Overprescription Fueling Veteran Suicides with Derek Blumke. https://tinyurl.com/mzc3k6ph
* Too Many Notes 11/09/25: Mental Health, Non-Drug Treatments & Psychiatric Drugs including SSRIs (includes info on tapering off SSRIs. https://tinyurl.com/mvhkbw66
* SSRIs, Antidepressants, and Fetal Development (September 7, 2025): Examines psychiatrists' denial of antidepressant harm to fetuses. https://tinyurl.com/aczskfkp
In my 20s and 30s, I was on Prozac for 13 years. And when I decided to quit, because I felt flat perpetually, no emotion no sex drive no nothing, I did it cold turkey. And what I discovered was that I went into nearly a month of absolute rage and horrible shakes such that I couldn't keep my hands still. I looked like a recovering alcoholic with how badly they shook. Oh, and I was super enraged all the time.
I was told by my doctor that Prozac was not addictive at all. Bullshit.
Fast forward into my early 50s and I had an assay done of a bunch of genes, trying to uncover what the hell was wrong with my brain and my emotions. Turns out, among many other interesting things, that I have the MTHFR genetic snafu, homozygous. And looking at the paperwork from the results about what this does and does not affect, it's not just folic acid/methylfolate. It also means specifically that I am low metabolizer of fluoxetine, which is Prozac. Meaning regular levels that other people take will be off the charts high for me. No wonder I was a fucking zombie for 13 years.
It’s amazing how much we used to trust the drugs physicians prescribed, now I question if even the 81 mg aspirin I take each day is good. Covid made me even more aware how the medical community isn’t working for the patient’s best interest, they work for the pharmaceutical industry.
I'd like to see more reference articles specifically related to the semi-permanent or permanent sexual dysfunction in adults. This is a horrendous problem that lays more blame onto the person prescribed the SSRIs or SNRIs. It would cause intense self-blame for the "problem", aside from ruining or nearly ruining marriages, since neither partner knew of that side-effect. I wonder how many divorces have been caused by the lack if desire by the one taking these drugs & not understanding that it was the drug, itself, creating the issues? How many families witnessed breakups or even affairs due to drug-induced lack of sexual desire in one partner? There, too, children also became unwitting statistics even if not receiving these drugs during a mother's pregnancy.
I'd also be interested in seeing data on what the pharmaceutical companies KNEW before the prescribing surge of these medications. What DID they know & WHEN did they know it?
Once again, it seems that Big Pharma has caused very serious HARM to a society that once trusted them & their doctors to HELP them. And now, apparently due to prenatal exposure, this has become a multigenerational condition. This infuriates me as much as the push for the supposed Covid "vaccines" & all the damage left in its wake (damage to individuals who are left to pick up the pieces of their family's life due to injuries or deaths while Big Pharma sits comfortably in the background counting their millions).
I can honestly say the 'Medical Profession' will throw the blame to a patient for any and all. I was blamed for my baby son's trip to the hospital where they proceeded to tell me he had "Failure to Thrive" and it was my fault. This was back in the late 1980s. I spent several days there (including my 1st Mother's Day) listening to them insist I should bottle feed him and heaping on the blame.
Looking back I can see the potential to get my family on several poisons was built in - baby formula, depression meds, who knows what else.
Re the question of what drug companies knew and when, I have studied psychiatry for a long time and I can tell you it is commonplace with psychiatric drugs that it takes years - and often decades - for the public to find out - via lawsuits - what the drug company knew before the drug was approved. You might start with Prozac. Internal documents show that Eli Lilly knew it caused suicidal ideation at least on 1987 and likely earlier. When the FDA held hearings in 1991 on the question of SSRIs causing suicide, one of the psychiatrists on the panel was in the process of getting a $200,000 grant from Lilly. Of course the panel found no problem. But the drug makers knew. The whole psych drug game, from the manufacturer to the FDA, the medical journals, the media, academia, physicians and medical societies is designed to insure that consent is never truly informed.
The cumulative effect in the womb and newborns is truly frightful and easy to acknowledge. This is just another layer of why we are so dysfunctional as a society. No wonder there are so many statistics of all that you mention. People are so used to "the pill" for everything it certainly is widely accepted except for a few. The horrors of withdrawal have been documented but certainly nowhere near what is needed. I am watching in disbelief at all the propaganda that is swallowed and I feel only a miracle will be able to pull humanity out of this deepening illness of the mind, body and Spirit. I DO know miracles happen! (A Midwestern Doctor has written extensively about this too)
My wife was prescribed an SSRI as the good Doctor says kind of like being offered a candy or breath mint. She like me does not like taking anything that is not absolutely necessary and I have been quite open as not trusting big Pharma. When she asked when she could quit taking them several Doctors essentially replied: NEVER. Then in a routine wellness exam a very wise Physician's Assistant described a way to gradually wean herself off of them. She was a little edgy at first, but succeeded and considers it one of her many life accomplishments. I do not recall the details, but I am relating this to let everyone reading this know that you can quit SSRIs. If your Doctor says you can't find a new Doctor!
In passing I am also one, who suspects SSRIs are related to mass school shootings as the development of SSRIs corresponds remarkably closely with this previously unknown crime.
I’ve read repeatedly that all these school shootings and many of the suicides are people on SSRIs. I used to assume they may have been suicidal all along and the SSRIs helped them cope / stay alive longer than if they didn’t take them. Now I believe the opposite.
The depopulation agenda continues. Less sexual desire. More gender dysphoria. Increased suicides.
Also interesting that they won't do studies on pregnant women, but they will push the untested covid vax on them.
That's what I was thinking too. SSRIs lead to fewer births in multiple ways. And the suicides that nobody seems to care about except friends and family.
Not to mention the mass murders.
I am not personally convinced that the "depopulation agenda" is that real, beyond its use as a "bogey man" to scare people. We are definitely experiencing a reversal in population growth in some parts of the world. But it's not clear to me that the beings controlling Earth really want this, as they could have arranged for it long ago. Their minions on Earth, though, are certainly creating an environment that is more difficult to survive in.
Larry, Re: "long ago." The Club of Rome in the late 1960's issued adamant warnings and disastrous predictions due to "over population." And Paul Ehrlich wrote the infamous "The Population Bomb" in response.
About the use (extreme overuse) of SSRIs:
In 2003, I mentioned to my primary care doctor that I was anxious about my father, who was dying of leukemia. The doctor, who was not a specialist in psychiatry, said that I was depressed and gave me a SSRI. I took it, wanting the anxiety to stop, and for a while I felt better--because I wasn't feeling any emotions. I decided to stop the drug after my father died. The doctor kept saying that I was depressed, kept asking about the percent decrease in depression the drug produced (though I kept telling him that I wasn't depressed), and kept telling me that I had to continue the drug for the rest of my life. I stopped the SSRI anyway. A side effect of my experience was losing my trust of doctors.
I just saw Paul Ehrlich being interviewed. Like Al Gore, despite being 100% WRONG, they still trot him out as an "expert". Both true pieces of human garbage.
I realize my information is a bit esoteric and thus far-fetched for most people.
There have been several "cleansings," or extinction events, in the history of this planet. One major one that we are familiar with is the one that removed the dinosaurs from the planet. This was arranged by ETs, per the research that I trust. Another big takedown was of "Atlantis."
ET destructive technologies are much older than Earth and perfectly capable of wiping it clean.
So what we speak of here must be some sort of conflict among men. The ETs are very good at creating these, and I see that as the most likely driving force.
I agree that there is a belief among the elites that there are too many people. And of course, they don't want their own numbers to go down, so they target other groups. But I am hearing talk from people like Mike Adams that the elites are totally anti-human. And that doesn't make a lot of sense; THEY are human. ETs on the other hand, could be totally anti-human. But they, I believe, need a crowded planet here to serve their own purposes.
So I think that the idea that the elites want to replace all humans with robots or something, while plausible, is basically a propaganda story to sow discord. It is true that the elites are making it difficult to survive and be happy on Earth. But they also supply us with food, cell phones, cars, planes, entertainment and on and on. So it becomes a double-edged sword to condemn them entirely.
Do you believe Eisenhower met with an ET named Thor in 1954?
I believe the "Valiant Thor" story has not yet been sufficiently corroborated. It is possible, however. It is telling that in the end, Thor got kicked out. But perhaps some of his recommendations were heeded.
Larry, Depopulation is the stated goal of the WHO/WEF.
Show me their document that states this. I can't believe these masters of propaganda would be that blatant.
Larry, I'll see if i can find it, and meanwhile you can do a search, too.
Their rational is their claim that the planet is overpopulated and resources are inadequate to serve everyone. Canada, deeply aligned with WHO, with their assisted (encouraged!) suicide program is an example of employing a means to depopulate.
I stumbled across a twitter post once that had depopulation quotes by significant world leaders. They just kept going & going. Like 20 total. One was prince philip in 1988 ""In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation"
OMG
This speaks to the attitudes of various people, some of whom are likely highly psychopathic. But is this desire for - essentially - mass genocide reflected in any official group documents? Many have alleged this and I don't doubt the evil intentions of many in this group, but I would be surprised if they admitted to it in so many words, in writing. And I am not at all sure this is the actual intention of those who they ultimately serve.
Pushing trans agenda, abortion, feminism promoting women to despise men/having children, banksters getting rich over war (and resulting deaths). Covid must be their crown jewel. Create & release a virus, make a fortune off the scam "vaccine", then make ever more $ off cancer treatments for the huge cancer increases their vaccine caused, all while killing millions & many more millions in the years to come. The birthrates have dropped, so it's working.
There is certainly ample evidence that certain criminal groups would like to kill off a whole bunch of us. I am aware of that evidence. I just don't think that actually adds up to a "depopulation agenda." It's just average criminal behavior. "Agenda" implies a definite plan, and I don't think there is one. Just a lot of messing around; enough to alarm people and keep the attention off the real perpetrators.
Did you know that one of America’s leading atheists says taking SSRIs is necessary to get through life without God? In other words, giving SSRIs to millions of young Americans ensures they’ll be too numbed out to realize they have souls in need of saving!
More here:
https://gaty.substack.com/p/the-butterfly-effect
How many of the mental disorders listed are not genetic but caused by the loss of key brain nutrients and/or caused by chemicals such as aspartame/vaccines/dyes etc. that have a toxic effect on brain function? When I became acquainted with a 10 year old boy who is receiving injections for chronic migraines which had the root cause due to his mother not cooking and feeding him fast food daily speaks volumes about what has to be fixed in our food systems. MSG was the culprit!
When physicians believe prescribing an SSRI is a quick fix answer to a mental condition is a convenient answer for the physician, but the beginning of a life long problem of health issues that can be avoided with proper analysis. VA still uses SSRI's as the number one treatment for PTSD, when other treatments can be more effective. The following quote by Dr. Candace Perth, the co-discover of the SSRI pathway which was the impetus for the creation of the multi-billion dollar SSRI class of mind altering drugs is a chilling statement.
"I am alarmed at the monster that John Hopkins neuroscientist, Solomon Snyder and I created when we discovered the simple binding assay for drug receptors 25 years ago." Quote from 20 years ago. The march still goes on to harm. Are the gate keepers inside the FDA deficient in brain power? The congressman that rally against RFK Jr. legitimate goals to fix our food system need to be called out and not re-elected.
The "lists of mental disorder" that exist at this time are their own issue. The DSM, as the biggest example, is not compiled based on science, but on various practitioners' feelings about what categories they would like to have.
This problem is compounded by the fact that most educated people have no idea what causes mental and personality problems. Steve Burgess has discovered some workable answers, as did Hubbard before him. But their findings are suppressed or ignored. In their therapies, no "diagnosis" (of a medical type) is needed. They simply work with each person to handle the things that are bothering them the most.
It is unclear at this time if that work can be successfully applied to "severe" mental health issues, and that is one problem keeping psychiatric doctors and their drug use alive. It would take a dedicated effort to learn how to apply workable therapies to people who are in very severe trouble.
Needs to be explored more. Some of it it is learned bad behavior from parent because imprinting is part of the equation of maturing. Complex issues because of negative lifestyles and the simple answer is to drug for profit and who cares if the full potential of the patient is never achieved.
No kidding it needs to be explored more!
But my point is that it has already been explored a good deal, and that work has simply been ignored.
Yep! Not a profitable way to go!
I might add that much of this research is so ignored that not even the people who AREN'T profit motivated know about it.
Yep!
Amen, Dr Malone. As a therapist for many years I found myself nodding in agreement throughout this article. I had an advantage. My work first started with those who were dying or grieving. This, I initially thought, was a bad start, but it was the best thing that could have happened to me. It detached me from the DSM nonsense. Who cares about a dx if you are dying or in deep grief. It also forced me to learn ways to help people cope every day while experiencing huge roadblocks to feeling well. It taught me how to listen and understand without even a tiny thought of relying on some medicinal bandaid. It taught me about my own helplessness, and deal with that for what it was. I developed a deep respect for my clients and for our work. Rather than move to a traditional clinic I focused in the first 20 years of my work with those who were dying and grieving. What a blessing.
The psychiatrists I have known over the years would spend nearly all of their time with patients talking about the medicine! Short visits to check in and see if things were ok and monitor side effects. I would suggest for them and for any therapist to work for a year or two with the grieving and dying and see what happens.
And even though I am (sometimes painfully) aware of better treatments for a wide range of human conditions, the fact that they take time and resources to administer - and to train skilled practitioners - has effectively prevented them from being widely used. I take care of a woman (15 years younger than me actually) who is slowly dying from some sort of gradual lung failure (along with other problems like obesity) and which I feel helpless to help because her condition prevents her from benefiting from most of the effective treatments that I am aware of.
"Maybe it's time to return to healing people in that old-fashioned way by promoting traditional values, preserving family relationships, and being involved in one’s community. By talking to people to discover what is wrong in their lives. By providing real guidance. By surrounding them with a supportive community."
Duh, of course, but promoting such remedies provides no profit for Big Pharma or the medical establishment.
And unfortunately Ned, the dysfunction of families and church has gone on for so long that it is needed to start over again. This is a long haul fix, the current families will need to be healthy for at least a generation to make a dent in the system of disrepair.
Generally, that is true, but some communities (Mennonites, Amish, etc.) buck this trend.
Yup, but they aren't the ones we read about except for the government trying to abolish their direction. They have been hard to control...
I am sure that a more traditional approach to life would help many people. But mental health issues have plagued humanity for centuries, making it obvious that workable answers have either not been discovered, or if they have (which they have), have not been widely adopted. At this point it boils down to a political struggle between people who have the answers and vested interests who only want to prolong their dominance on the planet.
I strongly suspect that most physicians fail to mention the role that magnesium plays in regulating serotonin levels. Carolyn Dean, MD, ND, explains this association very well in her book, "The Magnesium Miracle". According to Dr. Dean, " Magnesium is important because it is a necessary element in the release & uptake of serotonin by brain cells. With proper amounts of magnesium, nature makes sufficient serotonin & you experience emotional balance. But when stress depletes magnesium, a vicious cycle spins out-of-control & depression can occur". More people experiencing symptoms of depression & emotional imbalance should seek the advice of a doctor who is knowledgeable about the role that many elements such as magnesium play in our physical, emotional, & mental well-being. Sadly, most doctors don't have a clue & frankly, could probably care less about the real underlying problem. Choose wisely when seeking medical advice.
No big pharma $ = no interest from doctors. Doctors revealed their true nature during covid.
Finding the right holistic medical professional is the only way this would ever be tried and people need to seek these people out. Your life depends on it.
There's a lot I can say, but I won't because I don't want to air other people's private details.
People get prescribed this stuff, sometimes for the "right" reasons, and sometimes for the trivial ones noted in the article. Once they get you on this stuff they have a customer for the rest of your life. Which might or might not be a long time.
An all-too-common course is getting the SSRIs, things are great for a few months, then the side effects show up. Some of them are mentioned in this article. Then the person stops taking the drugs. The crash from coming off leads to all manner of irrational behavior, suicide being common, but that's not even the worst possible outcome.
So should they get off it slowly? Sorry, that's basically impossible. I know people who have tried that, gotten down to the smallest available dose, then tried to stop completely. Unimaginable blackness is the way I've heard it described. So they're stuck with the side effects.
I wonder if there are any nutrients these people could take while tapering off SSRIs to make the transition easier.
Readers might want to check out:
* Taper Clinic: https://taperclinic.com/
* Laura Delano Unshrunk Resources: https://www.lauradelano.com/unshrunk-resources
These offer some hope for people who want to exit the SSRI trap.
I was on one for a couple of months. Felt disconnected & like I was watching my life instead of living it. Went cold turkey. It was a lot easier than getting off prilosec, which made my life hell for a couple of months. Also cold turkey.
Good for you! But some find cold turkey difficult or impossible to live with.
There are doctors and others who specialize in tapering off psych drugs, as mentioned by Big E below.
The list of harmful medications is growing to unmanageable. "Vaccines", PPIs, statins, SSRIs, weight loss drugs, etc.. What they all have in common is patents.
Yes. But what they also have in common is a materialist philosophy that has shut us off from more workable answers. From what I can tell, ivermectin was originally manufactured under patent (by Merck), but in an unusual show of largess, was "donated" for international use to battle various parasite-related human diseases (to say nothing of animal diseases).
The larger problem is that drugs are not the answer for most of what ails mankind, yet the materialist orientation of the sciences has prevented other answers from being explored or becoming widely used.
Well, not everyone is medically depressed nor seriously physically ill. Why isn't everyone sick? I wonder if there has been a deep study re: sick and healthy people to parse differences, to identify patterns, and to ferret out causes. Such a study would be extremely complex. But now we have AI...
My only point is that "such a study" has been begun, but almost no one has found out about it.
Yep doctors and psychiatrists push antidepressants, and esp dispense the SSRI prozac to women like candy.
Most depression I feel, as I am afflicted, is circumstantial -- loneliness, no family, people texting and disconnected from society, people don't take time to help or offer friendship. So situation is getting worse due to social media, texting and even churches don't offer friendships, often just a place to go for an hr or so. People just too busy to take "lost ducklings" under their wing. Guess they weren't taught that at home; AND lots of people are missing the empathy gene. Also missing manners, walk around like zombies glued to their cell! Can't say hello even. SICK SCARY WORLD. ALL the ssri's cannot help the loss of compassion, social interaction, friendliness, & REAL LIVE BODY friends, yes live people not facebook " friends" or AI friends, or other internet friends. Heads up: Clicks are not friends. 😊
My daughter coaches a middle school girls' volleyball team and she said that approximately half the team is on anti-depressants! Doesn't anyone know how to help kids learn to cope? Doesn't sound like it. You can't phone in parenting.
But according to big pharma and the medical industrial complex, you can pill it in...
Hi Maria. Same thing a few years ago while I was helping chaperone a Boy Scout camp for a week. (Yes I know it is Scouting to include girls, but I will call it Boy Scouts...I'm old as my kids keep reminding me).
Before dinner all the kids lined up from our troop, except my son, to get medicated; all SSRI's or some kind of head med. It was disturbing and sad.
OMG! I can’t even imagine, how horrible for those children.
Yes, some do know how to help kids learn to cope. But there are not enough of them, and their work is being ignored. More people should get trained as Volunteer Ministers, which is free to do online.
For those looking for more info on SSRIs…
Articles on SSRIs from Big E's Big Mouth Substack
* Too Many Notes 08/16/25: Mental Health & Psychoactive Drugs — The Dark Side of SSRIs with Laura Delano & Is Overprescription Fueling Veteran Suicides with Derek Blumke. https://tinyurl.com/mzc3k6ph
* Too Many Notes 11/09/25: Mental Health, Non-Drug Treatments & Psychiatric Drugs including SSRIs (includes info on tapering off SSRIs. https://tinyurl.com/mvhkbw66
* Too Many Notes 06/07/25: SSRI Antidepressants and Fetal Health. https://tinyurl.com/2uz9vd9h
* Too Many Notes 09/14/25: Dangers of SSRI medication with Stefani Reinhold. https://tinyurl.com/8jerxrrh
* Too Many Notes 08/31/25: SSRIs, Psychoactive Drugs, & Transgender Shootings. https://tinyurl.com/bdx7mmz2
* SSRIs, Antidepressants, and Fetal Development (September 7, 2025): Examines psychiatrists' denial of antidepressant harm to fetuses. https://tinyurl.com/aczskfkp
A Midwestern Doctor article index (search for SSRI). https://tinyurl.com/ypthasbe
In my 20s and 30s, I was on Prozac for 13 years. And when I decided to quit, because I felt flat perpetually, no emotion no sex drive no nothing, I did it cold turkey. And what I discovered was that I went into nearly a month of absolute rage and horrible shakes such that I couldn't keep my hands still. I looked like a recovering alcoholic with how badly they shook. Oh, and I was super enraged all the time.
I was told by my doctor that Prozac was not addictive at all. Bullshit.
Fast forward into my early 50s and I had an assay done of a bunch of genes, trying to uncover what the hell was wrong with my brain and my emotions. Turns out, among many other interesting things, that I have the MTHFR genetic snafu, homozygous. And looking at the paperwork from the results about what this does and does not affect, it's not just folic acid/methylfolate. It also means specifically that I am low metabolizer of fluoxetine, which is Prozac. Meaning regular levels that other people take will be off the charts high for me. No wonder I was a fucking zombie for 13 years.
It’s amazing how much we used to trust the drugs physicians prescribed, now I question if even the 81 mg aspirin I take each day is good. Covid made me even more aware how the medical community isn’t working for the patient’s best interest, they work for the pharmaceutical industry.
I'd like to see more reference articles specifically related to the semi-permanent or permanent sexual dysfunction in adults. This is a horrendous problem that lays more blame onto the person prescribed the SSRIs or SNRIs. It would cause intense self-blame for the "problem", aside from ruining or nearly ruining marriages, since neither partner knew of that side-effect. I wonder how many divorces have been caused by the lack if desire by the one taking these drugs & not understanding that it was the drug, itself, creating the issues? How many families witnessed breakups or even affairs due to drug-induced lack of sexual desire in one partner? There, too, children also became unwitting statistics even if not receiving these drugs during a mother's pregnancy.
I'd also be interested in seeing data on what the pharmaceutical companies KNEW before the prescribing surge of these medications. What DID they know & WHEN did they know it?
Once again, it seems that Big Pharma has caused very serious HARM to a society that once trusted them & their doctors to HELP them. And now, apparently due to prenatal exposure, this has become a multigenerational condition. This infuriates me as much as the push for the supposed Covid "vaccines" & all the damage left in its wake (damage to individuals who are left to pick up the pieces of their family's life due to injuries or deaths while Big Pharma sits comfortably in the background counting their millions).
You might find some useful resources in the Comment post just added, here: https://www.malone.news/p/well-being-selective-serotoninreuptake/comment/180120903
Thank you Big E!
I can honestly say the 'Medical Profession' will throw the blame to a patient for any and all. I was blamed for my baby son's trip to the hospital where they proceeded to tell me he had "Failure to Thrive" and it was my fault. This was back in the late 1980s. I spent several days there (including my 1st Mother's Day) listening to them insist I should bottle feed him and heaping on the blame.
Looking back I can see the potential to get my family on several poisons was built in - baby formula, depression meds, who knows what else.
Re the question of what drug companies knew and when, I have studied psychiatry for a long time and I can tell you it is commonplace with psychiatric drugs that it takes years - and often decades - for the public to find out - via lawsuits - what the drug company knew before the drug was approved. You might start with Prozac. Internal documents show that Eli Lilly knew it caused suicidal ideation at least on 1987 and likely earlier. When the FDA held hearings in 1991 on the question of SSRIs causing suicide, one of the psychiatrists on the panel was in the process of getting a $200,000 grant from Lilly. Of course the panel found no problem. But the drug makers knew. The whole psych drug game, from the manufacturer to the FDA, the medical journals, the media, academia, physicians and medical societies is designed to insure that consent is never truly informed.
When is the consumer ever fully informed?
The cumulative effect in the womb and newborns is truly frightful and easy to acknowledge. This is just another layer of why we are so dysfunctional as a society. No wonder there are so many statistics of all that you mention. People are so used to "the pill" for everything it certainly is widely accepted except for a few. The horrors of withdrawal have been documented but certainly nowhere near what is needed. I am watching in disbelief at all the propaganda that is swallowed and I feel only a miracle will be able to pull humanity out of this deepening illness of the mind, body and Spirit. I DO know miracles happen! (A Midwestern Doctor has written extensively about this too)
My wife was prescribed an SSRI as the good Doctor says kind of like being offered a candy or breath mint. She like me does not like taking anything that is not absolutely necessary and I have been quite open as not trusting big Pharma. When she asked when she could quit taking them several Doctors essentially replied: NEVER. Then in a routine wellness exam a very wise Physician's Assistant described a way to gradually wean herself off of them. She was a little edgy at first, but succeeded and considers it one of her many life accomplishments. I do not recall the details, but I am relating this to let everyone reading this know that you can quit SSRIs. If your Doctor says you can't find a new Doctor!
In passing I am also one, who suspects SSRIs are related to mass school shootings as the development of SSRIs corresponds remarkably closely with this previously unknown crime.
I’ve read repeatedly that all these school shootings and many of the suicides are people on SSRIs. I used to assume they may have been suicidal all along and the SSRIs helped them cope / stay alive longer than if they didn’t take them. Now I believe the opposite.