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Jackelyn S Myers's avatar

At a Barbara Lowe Fisher’s event in the 1990’s, I heard a statistician (his books were used in college statistics classes) say that he had personally gone through the VAERS data base.

He said, “If any Fortune 500 company manipulated their statistics like the CDC does, all of their officials would be in prison.”

ron's avatar

And VAERS is strictly voluntary to begin with.

Debra Nolasco's avatar

Additionally, pediatricians are disincentivized to report a vaccine injury, as it could lead to vaccine refusals. As we all know, pediatricians are financially rewarded for getting as many as their patients vaccinated as possible. Some apparently dismiss families from their practices if they do not get on-board with their recommendations. Reporting injuries would be the equivalent of shooting themselves in the foot. Based on this alone, you can be very sure that the injuries are vastly underreported.

Joy Metcalf's avatar

Not just "apparently dismiss". I know two families who are looking for new pediatricians because they won't vaccinate. Frankly, I think this whole pediatrician business is unnecessary. What's wrong with a good GP? My doctor when I was growing up was a family doctor, and had a reputation for being one of the most brilliant diagnosticians in the area south of Boston.

Science is Political 2.0's avatar

:) you really old school GP don't exist here in NORTHERN VA as far as I know do not exist anywhere anymore.. :) a Family Practice Physician (PC) can and do give childhood vaccinations and even infant vaccinations. When my kids and even my doctor (s) took their children to Pediatricians who do specialize in Infants and children. I had some issues.. w/ my Pediatricians back in the day.. about dx my sons.. but most of them practiced in GROUP practice.. and I could choose whom I liked the best.

la chevalerie vit's avatar

Gee wiz, vaccine injuries SHOULD be a factor in a decision to refuse a vaccine. “Let’s hide the data for severe adverse reactions so people can get severe adverse reactions.” Good lord.

Laura's avatar

And reporting is a time-consuming process (more work). Doctors don't report if they don't think that there is a significant connection between the vaccines and the reported injury (although this is something that they do not necessarily know of course). Doctors are trained that vaccines are generally unproblematic without looking into the specifics of individual vaccines or being able to choose vaccines for the individual patient in their care. Perhaps if the reporting process was simplified, there would be better information? AND most doctors are employees of organizations and do what is required by the protocols.

Joy Metcalf's avatar

Harvard did a study of the VAERS system at the behest of the CDC several years ago and found that only 1 in 100 injuries were reported. They went beyond that, though, and built an automated system that would take only 4-5minutes to report instead of 30-60 minutes. The CDC refused to use it.

Science is Political 2.0's avatar

CDC stuck to its story. I cannot remember the name of the woman in charge I can see her face though.. exhorting people to get the vaccine. I don't want to know I have full day today of working on several important things.. here.

Debra Nolasco's avatar

I'd love to think that if the process was simplified, that more doctors would report adverse effects. However, until the financial rewards are removed from the equation, that is unlikely to happen. The arduous process is further aggravated by the fact that not only is it time-consuming to report an injury, but you are timed-out if you don't complete it in a certain amount of time. You have to start all over again. Given the amount of information that is currently available to everyone, including doctors, you would have to be willfully blind not to see most of these injuries. Books such as "Turtles All The Way Down", "Dissolving Illusions", & "Crooked: Man-Made Disease Explained" should be required reading for every doctor, pediatricians especially. Here is an interview with PA Deborah Conrad, from January 2025, about what happened to her in 2021 when she tried to report injuries from the covid "vaccines" to VAERS. She was also interviewed by Del Bigtree of the Highwire & in a Rumble video along with the late attorney Warner Mendenhall. It is truly unforgivable what has been allowed to happen to countless thousands of children & adults...https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/whistleblower-fired-and-escorted?r=9er3b&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

la chevalerie vit's avatar

It’s not up to the doctors to decide that there is a significant connection. 🤷‍♂️ That is the point of VAERS. Docs are required to report so that the CDC can look for signals and do follow up investigations on them.

Science is Political 2.0's avatar

right exactly part of the problem along w/ the framework for the creation of the Database a huge mess

Science is Political 2.0's avatar

I didn't know that anyone actually had gone through the VAERS data base. When I first heard about it I took a look and wondered how anyone had the patience and tolerance to wade through that MESS having built a medical Data base in Prostate Cancer which was co -designed by two doctors who worked in Prostate Cancer and military medicine: so I knew what to look for in terms of querying database and looking for Cohorts. I spent a couple hours. and after all I am doing this for my information at the time. (voluntary) like ron said. based on 'self reporting' and sketchy sources, back to your point, Dr. Malone,, this is really good news.. :) thanks for posting.

GABRIELLE TRAUB's avatar

When are they going to offer individual vaccine options for the trivalent vaccines: DTaP, TDaP, MMR, etc?

Joy Metcalf's avatar

When parents start demanding them, and that won't happen until they become more educated. Happily, that seems to be occurring more and more.

Uncle Mikey's avatar

Was just wondering exactly that! If you want to keep your Dr honest ask to examine the vial before injection. Next time ( if there is one) I will take a picture of the vial. 😊

Jan L. Breslow's avatar

What about SIDS?

Dr. Robert W. Malone's avatar

I agree - CHAT could only pick up signal for what the CDC acknowledges... Hence, this is a very conservative estimate! And SIDS is most definitely one that needs to be added to the adverse events (as in death...).

Dr Linda's avatar

Thinking the same. I was thinking about that woman who was recently charged with killing her twins. Georgia?

Big E's avatar

The case was in Idaho. It is real. The poor mom, Andrea Shaw, was part of a lawsuit against AAP. Could that be why she was charged with double homicide without a chance for bail (she has an infant that needs its Mom, too)?

The charges are tragic, Incredibly vindictive, and evil. She is innocent. See “Babies Likely Die of SIDS — Mom Arrested” https://eolson47.substack.com/i/204097211/babies-likely-die-of-sids-mom-arrested. Children’s Health Defense has other related articles. (A nurse friend of ours knows this family and said this was a clear cut case of SIDS.)

Dr Linda's avatar

Thank you for providing this. I am appalled that she was charged.

Joy Metcalf's avatar

You know, fear of SIDS existed when my son was born in 1969, so I really wonder if vaccines were implicated. OTOH, SIDS as a category was new starting in 1969; before it was known as crib death and thought to be suffocation. Doctors told mothers not to put anything near the baby's head.

I just looked up the schedule for 1969, and almost all the 8 doses of 4 vaccines were given in the first year of life. DTP alone was give 3 times in the first year, smallpox twice.

Big E's avatar

They keep renaming and redefining vaccine injuries. Call it whatever. Call it late for lunch. Vaccine injuries are still vaccine injuries — by any name!

Science is Political 2.0's avatar

That was not a real thing.. seriously. I looked it up.. when I was a young mother I believed it

you look it up and see what comes back. My son told me that .. and I said. yes that was real

He is 41 and he and his lady friend had long discussion and found out.. yes SIDS was not a real thing.. something else just as bad. no blame being assigned here must go in case of storm rolling black outs. :) fingers crossed

Joy Metcalf's avatar

I'm not sure what you mean by "not a real thing". What else is "just as bad"? There were crib deaths, now called SIDS, before the current vaccine schedule.

Thomas Marsh's avatar

We have been giving these vacs out for decades….you would have thought that a true valid huge data point as to whether this risk of harm compared to getting a bad out come of the disease is going to occur makes it a valid “drug” with all the other chemicals in the vac fluid. If we are going to return to a believable science then all vacs schedule should be strictly voluntary at all level and have zero relationship to schooling. Never again must we deal with a mandate at any level period. My eyes as a healthcare provider has been widen greatly, medicine and vac science has been corrupted significantly I for one will not take another.

Karen Kael's avatar

It’s a welcome step but I will really celebrate when medical freedom is permanently established for everyone — adults, children, animals!, every being.

EdB's avatar

An inspired tactic.. given the push back from the courts, etc. Its a shame that it took so long. BTW. President Trump looks exhausted. He needs an extended vacation.

James Schwartz's avatar

I had febrile fever seizures as a kid. It was so weird because as I got older I seriously then had them every 7 years to the exact week of the last one. The last one I ever had was at age 27. I’m not epileptic and they (the Drs) could never find anything to suggest any reason for them to occur. I don’t think about them anymore but reading this surely lends a possible cause. My wife believes the vaccines injured her daughter who did develop epilepsy and autism from them. She actually passed from a seizure about 6/7 years ago. I’d say this goes to the list of unreported vaccine injury but because it doesn’t happen at the exact time it gets injected there is usually no correlation that they caused injury in the first place and it’s what these Pharma companies most likely count on. They know what they make is poisons and the worst part is they don’t care. They lobby to make them mandatory regardless of the injury and pain and heartache they cause years later.

Sonia Nordenson's avatar

Hallelujah! This is such good news.

Barbara Charis's avatar

It would have been great, if the entire profit-designed vax schedule were eliminated.

Nadia Nichols's avatar

Every child that is spared vaccine injury by this new vaccine schedule is a big, big win for everyone who fought so hard to make this happen. This is huge. Take a victory lap. Drs. Malone. Thank you all!!!!

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

One small step that has to be followed by destroying consensus science that has ruled the medical world. Brownstone Institute published a excellent analysis today about how academia still supports Fauci's life work. The article can be found as a attachment to my article on the issue. https://thomasabraunrph.substack.com/p/fauci-fallacy

Dr Linda's avatar

The Duke professor. Rand Paul is supposedly the villian, not that narcissistic liar fauci.

ron's avatar

falsi is "The Science!"

Dave Slough's avatar

I’d like to say Was the Science

ron's avatar

To thinking people, or to him and his acolytes?

Dave Slough's avatar

him and his plebes of course

Joy Metcalf's avatar

Science is never consensus. If it were, there would be no breakthroughs. It's always the maverick that makes the discoveries.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

That was true until medical research was captured by the medical money men who put $$ over good health out comes!

Joy Metcalf's avatar

It's still true. Capture doesn't make it untrue, just not practiced.

Joy Metcalf's avatar

Omigosh. Thank you for that link. When I read this, it became so clear. "The managerial class sees Fauci as the embodiment of itself. His career validates the qualities that it rewards: institutional longevity, bureaucratic influence, narrative discipline, media skill, prestigious relationships, and the ability to present authority as expertise."

Laura's avatar

That is an excellent summary of the situation. Also, Dr. Joseph Varon wrote "What Covid Policy Did to Doctors Who Refused to Stay Silent" March 14, 2026. An eloquent summary of his experience where he references www.covidjustice.org. In science, you are supposed to test your theories and then change them (and continue to test) after analyzing them in the real world, accepting feedback. You are not supposed to change theories into laws. Or lie that the actual feedback from the real world does not even exist.

Laura's avatar

I guess I will never understand the blind obedience to the edicts of The Fauci or the media, academic and political laziness. And related to vaccine schedules, even having a vaccine schedule is a relatively recent phenomenon in human history since we didn't even have vaccine technology until recent generations. If you go to vaxopedia, where they tell you how those "anti-vax" people are scaring people, they list vaccine schedules from the 1940s to 2019 as if that was all of history and say that we have always had a lot. But these listings DO show that changes have been made over time. The 1948 schedule shows diptheria, pertussis and tetanus separated out. Vaccines for typhus were also on the schedule and have been removed since. Why anyone cannot consider that more is not necessarily better, or fathom that it is always in our best interest to develop vaccines that are better than the ones that we have currently, or look at individual vaccines and their effects on individual human beings is beyond me. Seems like people were more open minded in the past than they are today. And recommendations are not the same as mandates!

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Aggressive medical marketing to maximize sales is the root cause!

D D's avatar

As someone else said, this order has to have a lasting duration to make a difference. One small step, better than what happened with glyphosate use. We are still going to be at the mercy of a money strangle choke. I can see why this matters to you, after all you went through with ACIP.

AnnMarie's avatar

Executive orders are great for the short term, but as soon as he's out of office, the new person can change them all again. Is there a chance a new ACIP will be up and running soon? I believe RFK Jr. has rewritten the rules to try to reconvene it, but the panel is still frozen under court order.

Joy Metcalf's avatar

Why has the DOJ been sitting on its hands with that court order. This is unacceptable.

Barbara Charis's avatar

The Medical Industry started in 1910 with the Flexner Report, which was provided by the Carnegie Foundation along with John D. Rockefeller of Standard Oil.. It established Rockefeller's patented petroleum based drugs as the basis of medicine without even verification that they worked.

Rockefeller got doctors to join the AMA by promising them Higher Income and Prestige...not better health for their patients. Vaccines are in the same. category. The government has taken the word of an industry and no valid Third-Party testing was ever done. It is appalling that the government has permitted industries to do their own testing, because its dereliction of duty has been destroying the mental and physical health of every recipient of products that don't belong in the human body. Medical doctors are not taught in med school that the only thing which belongs in the human bloodstream are nutrients from unprocessed pesticide-free food. Nutrients nourish the organs, glands and cells. Nutrients provide energy and good health. Lab-created vaccines are designed for the benefit of a profit-seeking industry.. They damage the immune system, the organs, glands and every cell. Mankind lived on natural food for thousands of years without the help of the Medical Industry and all the other people and earth-harming industries that have put profit first.

Celia M Paddock's avatar

The irony is that Rockefeller used homeopathy for his own family...and the Flexner Report ended up killing American homeopathy in one of the nastiest examples of regulatory capture ever devised.

Dr Linda's avatar

The metals need to removed

Rockville Mom's avatar

What a terrible chokehold the pharmaceutical industry had on the CDC and FDA.

David Merrill's avatar

Congratulations and thank you both Drs MALONE.

I watched you through your "white knuckle moment" - you stayed so steady under that mantle of leadership!

https://youtu.be/9tvckEbK7e8

Thank you Jill, for stepping out of the Shot: https://youtu.be/4dBkTrI18Vg

One angle of perspective - especially considering AI just said that vestibular (balance) problems after vaccines are very rare...

https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/paged/1145/

"Thanks so much for continuing to post these videos. It’s refreshing to see some information that provides some horde for the horde of vaccine sufferers. For me, my high pitch tinnitus has not resolved and actually seems to be getting slightly worse over time."

Another hero in my opinion is David MORRELL at Veda, for starting the thread.

"David Morrill is the Community Support Coordinator and Support Group Liaison for the Vestibular Disorders Association (VeDA), a non-profit organization offering help for balance and inner ear disorders. Having faced his own long-term challenges with a vestibular condition caused by a stroke, he helps run peer support groups and speaks for patient awareness."

These are the heros just because they stayed alive to suffer and continue to suffer.

Big E's avatar

Oddly enough, we developed tinnitus after having second bout of COVID. Ivermectin once a week keeps it at bay. If we skip IVM, it comes back. So likely it’s the IVM doing its job. May not work for everyone. We are not doctors. But it’s a safe thing to try (for us, 24 mg).

David Merrill's avatar

My presumption is that you have been inoculated with COVID-19 mRNA and/or boosters?

How long between inoculation and tinnitis?

My second presumption is that "we" are family/spouse. Same batch? Same vial?

Sorry to get personal but I am gathering "real" info like a kitten to cream...

Big E's avatar

We use “we” to protect identity. NO COVID-19 vax or boosters. Just the illness itself. Hope this helps.

David Merrill's avatar

Thank you.

From my memories of "Science", that is just as interesting.