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Brandy's avatar

Remember the saying, anything is fair in love and war? After reading this very informative article, the saying seems right in the money.

D D's avatar

"Anything is fair in love and war'? The amount of homicides related to domestic violence does seem to say that.

Brandy's avatar

Unfortunately, our justice system seems to think a restraining order (a piece of paper) will keep an aggressor away from the victim. We need a system that actually enforces justice that inflicts consequences.

Bill's avatar

Accurate analysis. One should consider who curently is behind the Geneva Convention. Perhaps, they are the ones who endorse / perpetuate continuous wars in order to contain the masses and retain control over the global economy. Who, financially, controlled the Staights or Hormuz? Lloyds of London. Where do these high ranking Iranian officials live in luxury and store their wealth? London. POTUS isn't afraid to take this on.

Jean's avatar

Thank you for this discussion. I've frankly not dwelt on issues of war. As a part of the voting public, perhaps I should have. At this point, I can see the point.

As an aside, the issue itself heightens my concerns about our domestic vulnerability. With and since the Obama era, we have experienced an increasing invasion of Muslims disseminated across our nation. Recently their impacts seem to be to bleed the US as fraudsters and welfare recipients. Will they also have sleeper cells waiting to be activated at a convenient point? Do they have CCP alliances? Don't todays strategies lend themselves to biowarfare?

On to the issues you are covering. To me Iran has and up to this war represented a clear and present danger to us. The elites objectives to install a One World Order they command has been a clear and present danger. Both issues are impacted by the present conflict.

Now considering the Geneva Accords, I would say they sound like a Democratic strategy. Forever conflict with hollowing out of combatants seems inevitable. Harms to civilians inevitable.

Bottom line, if we find the threats so severe and imminent that war is deemed warrented, a timely win is the best answer.

In terms of my take and my vote, overall I support the effort and it won't impact my vote.

Again, thanks so much for this beneficial discussion!

American Citizen's avatar

Well stated. But there are hardliners who fail to recognize reality of nations and the Muslim invasion into western society. Ignorance is bliss. War is not good we all know that…but it can be the lesser of many evils. Was it right to go to war to defeat Adolf? Of course but some still differ on that point.

Carl Nelson's avatar

Very timely and needed analysis.

Timea Biro's avatar

There is no law in war, especially a war of choice...look no further than what took place in front of our eyes in Gaza and now in the last month in the Middle East attacking a nation that showed no credible threat to our way of life except to the deep pockets of the Zionist billionaires. The US army is not much more than the mercenaries of the Epstein class. So, stop the propaganda.

ComeQuicklyLord's avatar

I’m a U.S Army Veteran, and your remarks are despicable! I was never a mercenary, and the Army soldiers today are not mercenaries, especially “of the Epstein class.”

You are the one spouting propaganda, and it’s obvious that you do not understand the heart of a soldier, and what he has to endure physically and mentally to engage and destroy the enemy—many times hand to hand combat. I’m grateful I did not have to deploy, but was ready and willing to do so—for our nation—even for people like you, who denigrate us for our service.

Too many who returned from the forever wars were subjected to its horrors because those they fought had NO value to life, and placed women and children in front of them as shields. My cousin experienced it in Vietnam, and suffered mentally because of it, but he never regretted his service to our nation, because he loved America. My dad served in the Korean and Vietnam war, so I know the cost of war, and he too was a Patriot—and I’m like him.

Get your head out of the Epstein propaganda, and pray for our nation at war, and yes, for a moral change that only Faith in Christ can bring about.

VR's avatar
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The issue is not with brave soldiers. The issue is with the Epstein class at the top making terrible decisions for our brave soldiers. Unlike George Washington, they are never at the front lines of the war. Even some high ranking military have come out after many years of dedicated service and said they thought they were fighting for great values and now realize that they were enriching corporations and politicians -- the Epstein class.

Please do not confuse critique of the decision-makers with lack of respect for our military personnel.

Faith in Christ - Christ must abhor what the U.S. is doing and has done.

Timea Biro's avatar

Most of the soldiers, who fought in the shameful wars propagated by the elites and the bankers of the western world that took place during the last 60 years are against wars! Trump was re-elected exactly for that reason! From 2016 till the 2024 election he was loud and clear attacking Bush for the Iraqi war and he was explicitly against all of the endless wars. We thought he was our peace president, that would take our country back to the foundation of our nation and resurrect from its ashes the US constitution. We thought he would fight against the Epstein class that systematically took away our rights and have exploited us economically.

No war of choice benefits the people. We pay for it through taxation and inflation, while the Epstein class gets richer by the minutes. Our soldiers die along with innocent civilians, while the Epstein class will survive in their underground bunkers. Your honor as a soldier is to defend our nation, our constitution and our people. You have no moral obligation to fight for the interest of the Epstein class.

My grandfather was killed in 1943 in Ukraine during WWII. He was forced by gunpoint to join the Hungarian Nazi army, and lost his life for a cause that nobody in my grandparents' village understood other than he had no choice, either he would be shut to death or obliged to fight. Do you know that 85 million people were killed? That is equivalent 25% of the US population today. And do you know who were the people and their families who got even more rich and powerful during that war? Those interest groups and families are the same ones that want you to fight now to make them even more rich and powerful. No matter how much money and power they have, it is never enough to them.

Matthew Koch's avatar

🫏

James Lord's avatar

I see this symbol everywhere. I've tried looking it up, but don't even know what to search on. Could someone end the mystery for me, and tell me what this means?

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

🫏

is an iPhone emoji; a jackass

quite an appropriate response provided my Matthew.

but then, surely you are joking. . . ?! right?

James Lord's avatar

Not joking. Never seen it explained. Don't see the visual tie. Thanks for answering, I really did wonder.

Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

Ditto

Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

Just like war crime is an oxymoron. Losing the war is the only ultimate crime

Timea Biro's avatar

The ultimate crime is attacking people to steal their land, resources and subject them to economic exploitation that result in subjugation with all of its terrible consequences. If it's not clear for you how the Epstein class operates in today's world, it never will be.

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

You just described the entirety of human history. Epstein is only a recent blip in something that has been going on since the evil hairless monkeys came down from the trees. Look at Genghis Khan and Baku Khan. How about Alexander the Great? The entire way Islam spread across the World. The Europeans in the "New World" and, later, the American spread across this continent.

dan brandt's avatar

As we see with Mamdani and other socialists leaders, that is exactly what they are doing. You should think before you post. You create your own effective rebuttal. And then question is, do you live in this country? Why makes you so special you can live on Indian land with no remorse or act of attrition? RFLMBO

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Timea, apparently and being an immigrant from Hungary, you have no appreciation for the American ethic, how this country was formed and what a true patriot stands for. (or are you still IN Hungary?!) Please Re-read CQL's post above and try to understand. I doubt you ever have taken and understood US history and HOW and WHY we fought wars during the last 250 years.

A summary:

-- Rev. War: against Britain for our independence, not claiming land from them; defending against oppression from the originating country attempting to turn citizens into its foreign slaves.

-- Civil War: North fought Southern states preventing them from secession and defending slaves right to live as free humans; actually copying similar actions by Britain in the 1830's freeing black slaves

-- WWI: helping Western Europe defend against Germans' attacks and expansion; took no land but over the next century used OUR citizens' tax dollars to build NATO bases to help the Euro's defend against the Russian bear during the COLD war. All the time while the Euro's contributed diddly to their share of NATO!

-- WWII: repeat of WWI, but allied with Russia; even to the extent of acquiring Persian oil with Britain to help Russia defend its homeland, then we walked away but left the Shah in charge(granted, a mistake) but we never took their land or bombed their people.

-- Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq wars: these were ALL wars of principle and conscience fought in the name of liberty for FREE peoples against Totalitarian, atheistic, brutal regimes abusing their own people. N. Vietnam was being supported by Russia and China in an effort to spread the Communist ideology, repression, and totalitarian dementia. Iraq warred against Kuwait, and practiced genocide against the Kurds, and repressed the Shiite sect of Islam inside their OWN country with torture and murder. Afghanistan(Taliban) did the same with Christians and Shia sect in the name of Sharia Islam. Women severely abused, used as virtual slaves. Never our intention to take any land and US never did do so.

-- Iran: killed 35,000 of their own citizens in Jan/ Feb of this year, reinforced the belief they would quickly be capable of making nukes; have repressed freedom and IMpressed Sharia laws on their own people for 47 years since taking our embassy staff prisoners and later killing over 1000 Americans without any retribution by the USA. They have built huge arsenals of ICBM's and other missiles, 10's of thousands of drones, and hidden their nukes and prevented inspection by the IAEC, called for the death of USA and Israel for decades, and controlled the straight of Hormuz holding world nations hostage regarding access to OIL based energy.

Iran is a god-forsaken POS land that no one wants to live in, including those seeking freedom INSIDE it. The USA is NOT killing civilians and if you were not so obsessed by the WORLD press' constant brainwashing on Epstein files you might understand that, again, the USA is not on an imperialistic mission.

With over 30,000 air missions inside Iran the USA has uniquely and accurately target military infrastructure to this point and is only now after 5 weeks, started to take out ANY internal / civilian infrastructure(a bridge) in order to provide final impetus to move the fools in the IRGC off the dime and get them to give up.

This present war has nothing at all to do with taking Iran's land.

Please wake up.

Timea Biro's avatar

'obsessed by...constant brainwashing on Epstein files you might understand that, again, the USA is not on an imperialistic mission' - wow, I heard that some people still have beliefs like yours, but you are my first encounter. I guess you must be really old.

The US is a vessel state along with Israel, EU, Australia, NZ and Canada, ruled by the globalist elites, a handful of people that uses the US army as their private army, and us, the people as their cash cows exploiting every bit of us including our health and wealth.

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

I think you meant "vassal state" But the global elites does not quite fit the definition. The global elites are mainly multinational with no absolute allegiance to any nation.

Timea Biro's avatar

You live in the western elitist's propaganda bubble, sir.

I don't have any desire to go point by point to explain you the nuances of history and give you books to read other than your history books in government schools and what you were told by propagandist on Fox News.

Behind all of the wars, the core motivation is to take others territory or resources by force if not given freely. However, the true motive is wrapped up in a thick propaganda to give people some ideological motivation to fight. Because let's go and steal their oil sounds a bit much for most of the decent people. You see, a handful of high IQ, criminal minded people cannot fight again a nation on their own also as I said, it's not the best way to motivate decent people with sinful goals, such as let's kill them and take their oil. This is why they need to motivate you, sir, with carefully crafted propaganda that is nothing but lies or half truths.

Regarding the 35K citizens killed in Iran is outright false.

However, even if it was true, by now the Israeli and US bombs killed just as many if not more. So, what is your argument exactly, the sacred of human life?

Randall Stoehr's avatar

The ultimate fatality of War is truth.

An ongoing disposable of fellow man.

On a planet of unlimited abundance.

Repeating a level of hatred over and over....expecting different results. Albert E.

Can you say revenge? I knew you could. Fred R.

It's called the "Theater of War" for a reason.....it's all scripted and staged.

Best seller books and movies to follow eh?

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

. . . and war crime trials are held against the losers.

Timea Biro's avatar

...and the winners write the history books

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

Correct, and edit them as circumstances change. Just looking at wikipedia shows how "reality" is transient. Government schools selectively "teach" what they want to program into the young minds and what they no longer want them to know.

dan brandt's avatar

They weren't? Then how much of their 47 year march towards military excellence do you not to understand. Because they didn't build hundred of thousands of rockets, missiles and ballistic missiles as a credible threat to folks like you? Ever figure out they don't need a rockets that reaches the USA to get a nuke into our country?

All of the military hardware and training of Iran should have been terminated a long time ago with so much less armed conflict. But folks like you, I believe, actually like wars. You certainly have no understanding of what an imminent threat is, because you have no valid or useful knowledge about such things. You've never seen or experienced it. It's the self made ignorant like you who set all of this up. Your worldview was defeated Nov 2024. And thank God. You should be grateful to Trump. For if the Iranians got a nuke into this country, which was highly probably during biden's administration, the place to set it off for the most devastating effect would be a big Blue city. You can't even tell when someone is protecting your.

So stop spreading the ignorance. You might even consider working on policies and leaders to try and win the next election. Not become perpetual losers. That's all you have, the pitiful lament of a loser.

Nasty1's avatar
4hEdited

Timea, take a deep breath and whatever meds you’re supposed to be taking, then read again. Try to focus on clear logic, reason and evidence.

Timea Biro's avatar

Why do you attack me personally, Nasty1? Did I say something you specifically disagree with? Do you support the Zionist billionaires aggression toward the people of earth? Whose side are you on?

Nasty1's avatar

Your commentaries reflect highly emotional vomitus and fairly non-cognitive characteristics which have nothing to do with the topic addressed. If you should take that “personally” it only supports my position.

Timea Biro's avatar

Nasty1, good luck to you...

dan brandt's avatar

How about, because you never served but yet feel qualified to comment on our military. The comments of an uneducated an ignorant person.

We don't suffer fools.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

I would like to second that one!

Dan. . . you have never worked for 3M have you?

dan brandt's avatar

I worked for the FAA. The most dysfunctional agency in the government. And when you have experienced, government, business and churches, you realize, fundamentally, they are all the same.

Timea Biro's avatar

So true! And also so disillusioning to knoww. But we cannot give up the hope for a better future.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

OK, thought maybe you were "another" DB, whom I had worked with. . . Ha!

News Do's avatar
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Timea: you spout nonsense propaganda “Zionist billionaires toward the people of earth.”

Please exam every one of those terms for validity. Are they really Zionists or are they people protecting themselves? Is it billionaires, or ordinary folks who have been taught to recite those truly ignorant words without questioning them—or recite them to ensnare people who will not exam the words for truth? Are they targeting “the people of earth [sic]”, or the governments who are oppressing the people of Earth?

You are getting a lot of pushback because those words are false, and simple research outside of the media which echo each other and beyond the propagandists who recite those phrases will reveal their falsehood.

Blessings to you!

Nasty1's avatar

Brilliant!

Matthew Koch's avatar

The sooner a conflict is over, the better. If that requires greater force, then so be it.

People demanding policies that lead to an elongated conflict don’t really care about civilian loss deep down.

Curtis Shriver's avatar

“The enemy is fat and sluggish, like the elephant. Our army is like the tiger: swift, resourceful, deadly and unpredictable. If the tiger confronts the elephant, he will be crushed. If the tiger attacks the elephant when it leasts expects it, then bites on the elephant’s legs bore running away, the elephant will eventually weaken. This is how we defeat the French colonialists.”

Truong Chinh, Vietnamese communist leader, 1947

Barbara Williamson's avatar

In war, we cannot control the bad guys. Case in point…Iran. If you don’t want massive casualties on your side, you must do what needs to be done and WHEN it needs doing. Otherwise, why fight at all. Just sit back and let them win so you don’t injure noncombatants. There will always be unfortunate casualties in war. That is what war is….casualties….of bad people and good people. Israel is the only country I know of that goes out of their way making every effort to avoid injuring civilians. Sadly, sometimes those efforts backfire.

Jean's avatar

I agree, but the implications are imo beyond just the defeat. Winners subjugate and assume/consume the possessions of the defeated. In the world order, the defeated loose their standing and impact.

dan brandt's avatar

Yeah, just look at how Japan and Germany have suffered since their WWII defeat. (SARC)

Fran Tabor's avatar

Please label as sarcasm, just in case you're misunderstood by those suffering from modern schools.

James Schwartz's avatar

The Eurotards have bastardized the war rules because they are the ones who kept getting their asses kicked. When they saw the U.S. drop the bombs on Japan they had to make sure there was a way to equal the playing field so the U.S. couldn’t just drop a few more of them and control the planet. Never realizing the U.S. never wanted to own the world their fear is what has guided them then and right up until now. Europe has always screamed fright over Russia but when Russia wanted to join NATO after the wall fell they objectively screamed that is was impossible to has that because the Russians couldn’t be trusted EVER! If that one decision had been changed the world would look very very different right now. I hope Trump remembers how Europe has acted with this war in Iran when it’s over and realize Europe isn’t on our side and the rules of engagement have changed.

Matthew Koch's avatar

If group A uses civilians as human shields and their blood ends up being spilt…. That is solely the fault of group A.

dan brandt's avatar

Thanks for this. It validates what I have been preaching for a long time. Civility and laws have never ended a war. You can fight a war to win, or to bring the other side to the negotiating table. Basically a rephrasing of what the good Dr. states. Negotiating was what Obama and biden did. As we see, negotiating is not a strategy to stop wars but just postpone them. winning a war as fast possible is the way to go once one is started. Remember the Muslim brotherhood has a 100 year plan to take over the world. They will win because they have the patient to do so and could care less on the method of fighting to get there.

The last war that was fought to win, and was actually won, WWII, was ended by dropping two A bombs on Japan and carpet bombing Germany. We can't do that today because of too many civilians deaths. But as the Dr. points out, the longer the war, the more death and destruction.

No Dem leader alive has ever been part of successful war to win. Therefore they have no idea what it takes. None, nada, nil. Obama and biden micromanaged their wars based on polls and politics. You can't win wars that way nor can you successfully bring the other side to a good faith negotiation. You certainly can't buy them off. At least one side of any war will not follow the Geneva convention. If both did there would be no wars. As the doc points out, that's an almost impossible task to win such a war/armed conflict.

The Geneva convention and the rationale behind the Geneva convention is a joke. Just like the religious who wrote up a justification for a moral war. There is no such thing.

Fortunately Trump sets the goals with his military and gets out it's way. Just like they destroyed ISIS in a few months and not the five years biden and his "military" advisors said it would take. Just like Venezuela. In and out. When the Dems say there is no end game no after war planning, there is nothing they can offer to reach the stupid goals they think are humane. They aren't. And no one can answer those questions until the wat is over! Ask the females of Afghanistan how biden's promised to protect them is working out for them. Long forgot by biden or any Dem. So much for the illusion of a moral Dem. Fortunately again, Trump doesn't believe in regime change nor building other countries in our image as a goal to be met.

To put it bluntly, the left, who has no expertise nor valid experience in how to win a war need to STFU. Because you have no idea of what winning a war means. And we don't need the Dems repeating their failed armed conflict policies for more forever wars., Death and destruction

The goal for the left that they are too dense to grasp, unconditional surrender. All other goals talked about are just another piece of the puzzle to that goal. DUH!

David Lang Wardle's avatar

The only basic Law of War is to win. All else is bullshit.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

yep. THe Russkies are not following "Geneva Convention" -- laughable.

How about all the African cross border wars over the last century?!

Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina warring, essentially, on their own people?

and on and on. . .

The GC is just NOT a thing.

Kathleen Ferrell's avatar

Murder is murder. Period.

Fran Tabor's avatar

Murder, manslaughter, two different subsets of killing. Make friends with a quality dictionary.

American Citizen's avatar

By who? Rather simplistic.

Paul Sikora's avatar

Doc as usual your logic makes perfect sense - whether we like it or not. And history supports the conclusion. The North could never decisively defeat the South until it became willing to “make Georgia howl.” Also I’m corporations Defenders of the West which follows the careers of 8 Christians in the 1400+ conflict with Civilizational Islam. They weren’t successful until they realized and accepted what Sherman said succinctly: “War is h*ll”.

swfowkes (Steven Fowkes)'s avatar

You write that "Waging successful symmetric warfare is how the United States gained independence..." That war seems decidedly asymmetric to me, with the US employing guerrilla tactics to wear down the British will to fight at the end of long supply lines. Not being a historian, and not being interested in history beyond the history-repeating-itself foible, I wonder what your basis is for thinking symmetry applied at that time.

Dr. Robert W. Malone's avatar

Typo, corrected

Dr. Robert W. Malone's avatar

Typo - fixing now.

Fran Tabor's avatar

We had a shorter supply chain, our soldiers all knew the native language and we had better local weather knowledge. Plus we weren't hindered by obsolete traditions.

Our generals knew everyone one, the price of losing was the hangman's rope.

It was more symmetric than most history books teach.