Exceptional series, thoroughly enjoyed it and am better educated because of it.
Seems that if all the foreign meddling and money stopped that the people living there would settle this much more quickly. Probably be blood shed but, in my opinion, there would be less blood spilled.
If they would set up a "palestinian" state in an Arab, country, instead of continuing to try to force Jewish Israel to harbor them, one could hope that the violence would cease or significantly reduce. They could try it, say, in Jordan. Oh - wait a minute!!
In fact, none of the surrounding, much larger, Arab states wants anything to do with them, so they largely stay in the only country that has historically tried to accept them, even though rule 1 in the "palestinians" "religion" is, "kill the Jew."
I agree. And, the USA would have been in a similar situation if the Comanches and Apaches had continued on killing and torturing incoming settlers while declaring "kill the Euro's". What made this different is, the settlers and what existed as their governing and protective authorities, chose to grab them up, neutralize them, and imprison them before it got to the point it appears to be in Israel.
Like the Palestinians the Apaches refused to see the inevitable; but then, it happened.
The Frontier WILL one day close. The only question is will the remaining Palestinians wake up?
Amazing body of work! You have been able to break down a very complicated subject and help educate those of us who only listen to news accounts. Thank you!
Arabs will always want to Jews. Their children are taught from birth that their only destiny is to kill Jews and Christians. No 100,000 word analysis will change that simple equation. And it will soon be happening here in America if we don’t stop the Muslim takeover of our cities.
They are working on it... Infiltrating govt is one of the 8 forms of jihad (former radical Muslim Isik Abla interview). What is terrifying now is that they are rapidly succeeding. I didn't think I'd ever see Islam in our govt offices, especially after 9-11... and yet there are now hundreds+, from local offices on up to federal reps.
My understanding of the term Palestinian is that it is the remnant of a self-imposed diaspora of Arab residents who refused to accept assimilation into the newly formed state of Israel. Appears their progeny are no more tolerant and so to attempt their inclusion seems a bad idea
Thank you so much for this fantastic series. Very eye opening and educational. Each reader can arrive at their own conclusions. In my case the series has solidified my primary thoughts while giving much food for thought in other areas I hadn't thought to consider.
It's obvious you both have a heart that seeks to understand... and your readers benefit greatly from your experience and detailed research.
These in-depth essays are excellent. But I do think the risk of selection bias is real. Especially for two "thought leaders" whose opinions would be highly important to either side. I suggest you make another trip, this time hosted by the Palestinians, to balance out the information you are processing.
What is left out of the extensively researched, thoughtful and illuminating series is that Israel is dealing with a people who would not cede 1 foot of land to them under any circumstances because they are not followers of Islam. History does not matter to them and they would willingly destroy all trace of it to get their way, as we have seen. Why not view the October 7 videos they made. They deserve a state? Such barbarism should be condemned and punished, not rewarded. Go find one of them who disagrees with what they did to innocent people on October 7th. Even if the victims were not innocent, such barbarism is unknown outside of Hitler's camps and should never be employed on any form of life. We live during a very strange time. Everything is upside down. People have lost their moral compass, lost their humanity. And you are worried about their fight over a piece of land the size of New Jersey when they already occupy a vast region and beyond.
Problem there is they would receive no factual information, only lies. Fortunately, the doctors know the difference. Waste of their precious time. Don't we hear enough of their propaganda daily? Too much.
Thank you Doc’s. I am now much more informed and smarter than I ever was about this subject. You both did excellent work here. I’d suggest Pulitzer but you don’t work for WAPO or the NY Times.
Modern version of the Wild Wild West where the white man's push to control the land west of the Mississippi was to contain and control the American Indian, which has been sequestered on the poorest land in the West. In Arizona, the Gila River Indians are clawing back their share of water rights. A never ending struggle.
Would all the problems in the middle east but over if "ISRAEL" was eliminated - or do they all just love to kill each other ? We need another Sodom and Gomorrah fix to all of the middle east !
The Bible (old and new covenants) has the past and future of Israel and Jerusalem clearly spelled out. Israel will never be eliminated until the end of end times (essentially your Sodom and Gomorrah). The battle between Ishmael and Isaac, Esau and Jacob, etc will forever continue until then. One is "chosen" the other will forever fight the chosen because of it.
Morning Doc's.
Exceptional series, thoroughly enjoyed it and am better educated because of it.
Seems that if all the foreign meddling and money stopped that the people living there would settle this much more quickly. Probably be blood shed but, in my opinion, there would be less blood spilled.
thank you. It has come at a cost, willingly paid
If they would set up a "palestinian" state in an Arab, country, instead of continuing to try to force Jewish Israel to harbor them, one could hope that the violence would cease or significantly reduce. They could try it, say, in Jordan. Oh - wait a minute!!
In fact, none of the surrounding, much larger, Arab states wants anything to do with them, so they largely stay in the only country that has historically tried to accept them, even though rule 1 in the "palestinians" "religion" is, "kill the Jew."
I agree. And, the USA would have been in a similar situation if the Comanches and Apaches had continued on killing and torturing incoming settlers while declaring "kill the Euro's". What made this different is, the settlers and what existed as their governing and protective authorities, chose to grab them up, neutralize them, and imprison them before it got to the point it appears to be in Israel.
Like the Palestinians the Apaches refused to see the inevitable; but then, it happened.
The Frontier WILL one day close. The only question is will the remaining Palestinians wake up?
Amazing body of work! You have been able to break down a very complicated subject and help educate those of us who only listen to news accounts. Thank you!
Arabs will always want to Jews. Their children are taught from birth that their only destiny is to kill Jews and Christians. No 100,000 word analysis will change that simple equation. And it will soon be happening here in America if we don’t stop the Muslim takeover of our cities.
To accomplish that must first reverse takeover of our judicial system by woke clowns
They are working on it... Infiltrating govt is one of the 8 forms of jihad (former radical Muslim Isik Abla interview). What is terrifying now is that they are rapidly succeeding. I didn't think I'd ever see Islam in our govt offices, especially after 9-11... and yet there are now hundreds+, from local offices on up to federal reps.
They’ve already made Dearborn a no go zone
Very enlightening. Thank you.
My understanding of the term Palestinian is that it is the remnant of a self-imposed diaspora of Arab residents who refused to accept assimilation into the newly formed state of Israel. Appears their progeny are no more tolerant and so to attempt their inclusion seems a bad idea
you hit it right on the HEAD!
BAM.
Thank you so much for this fantastic series. Very eye opening and educational. Each reader can arrive at their own conclusions. In my case the series has solidified my primary thoughts while giving much food for thought in other areas I hadn't thought to consider.
It's obvious you both have a heart that seeks to understand... and your readers benefit greatly from your experience and detailed research.
Again, many thanks!
I will second that one.
These in-depth essays are excellent. But I do think the risk of selection bias is real. Especially for two "thought leaders" whose opinions would be highly important to either side. I suggest you make another trip, this time hosted by the Palestinians, to balance out the information you are processing.
I could do that if offered
Have armed security with you.
my very first thought too.
What is left out of the extensively researched, thoughtful and illuminating series is that Israel is dealing with a people who would not cede 1 foot of land to them under any circumstances because they are not followers of Islam. History does not matter to them and they would willingly destroy all trace of it to get their way, as we have seen. Why not view the October 7 videos they made. They deserve a state? Such barbarism should be condemned and punished, not rewarded. Go find one of them who disagrees with what they did to innocent people on October 7th. Even if the victims were not innocent, such barbarism is unknown outside of Hitler's camps and should never be employed on any form of life. We live during a very strange time. Everything is upside down. People have lost their moral compass, lost their humanity. And you are worried about their fight over a piece of land the size of New Jersey when they already occupy a vast region and beyond.
Problem there is they would receive no factual information, only lies. Fortunately, the doctors know the difference. Waste of their precious time. Don't we hear enough of their propaganda daily? Too much.
This is a situation where bias itself is fluid
Thank you Doc’s. I am now much more informed and smarter than I ever was about this subject. You both did excellent work here. I’d suggest Pulitzer but you don’t work for WAPO or the NY Times.
Modern version of the Wild Wild West where the white man's push to control the land west of the Mississippi was to contain and control the American Indian, which has been sequestered on the poorest land in the West. In Arizona, the Gila River Indians are clawing back their share of water rights. A never ending struggle.
Would all the problems in the middle east but over if "ISRAEL" was eliminated - or do they all just love to kill each other ? We need another Sodom and Gomorrah fix to all of the middle east !
The Bible (old and new covenants) has the past and future of Israel and Jerusalem clearly spelled out. Israel will never be eliminated until the end of end times (essentially your Sodom and Gomorrah). The battle between Ishmael and Isaac, Esau and Jacob, etc will forever continue until then. One is "chosen" the other will forever fight the chosen because of it.