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Pamela Lorenz's avatar

What started as a grassroots movement with high ideals is now infested with the “Machine”, the “Corporation”, …the SWAMP…something that will be extremely difficult to clean up (like a cesspool) We still believe in and fight for our goals of a more healthy country but the monster called Federal Government is like a Medusa- cut off one deadly head and more grow in its place.

Karen Cook's avatar

Sounds like the usual inside beltway politics that most of us hate and why approval numbers for Congress and/or government in general are lower than a snake’s belly! Money always wins mostly to the detriment of American people.

American Citizen's avatar

Well written/researched perspective on MAHA/MAGA/etc...ever evolving. Very complex to navigate, as we can only imagine. Personally I believe Trump, RFK, etc...are doing a great job GIVEN the parameters they are forced to work with. The truthful insiders I used to know would tell me the unelected bureaucrats basically run every facet of our government, for the most part. Even the elected leaders do not always understand this. Trump/RFK, etc...have so many liars and traitors that work for them, but many of them are disguised as allies. It is always being undermined by inside and outside factors, oh what a tangled web we weave. Also, apparently RFK was not pushed out just after the 4th, as some inside beltway rumors were suggesting. Short story is we all know we have to take care of ourselves, while simultaneously working to prevent the bureaucrats from controlling more of our lives. I know many are disappointed in RFK and Trump, but remember, they cannot do much alone...they have to work within a system of liars...a den of thieves...what if Kamala and Walz had won? That is why I still smile today...we stopped them from being elected...for what if the elected leaders are in harmony with the unelected bureaucrats...then we know the devil (fascism) is at our door....we saw that just 18 months ago with Biden. Stay the course, and keep fighting...we are gaining ground, IMO.

James Schwartz's avatar

Kennedy can’t win a national election. I doubt he could win in Massachusetts. MAHA needs a new leader to be the face of it now. Once glyphosate didn’t get banned he was finished. He got food dyes but even that isn’t effective until 2028? That should have taken effect in like 6 months as almost every food company has a separate recipe for those dyes if they are on the shelves in Europe. I was excited when he was tapped to lead HHS but the blob has won and not much will change. It seems it’s never going to which is why it’s incumbent on us to do for ourselves what our govt clearly won’t.

JB's avatar

As in a hospital setting, one must be his//own advocate.

James Schwartz's avatar

Don’t I know it. Sage advice

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

I am wondering if President Trump is in the same position. meaning Vance or Rubio can't win. We have been fighting the same monied "masters of the universe" for centuries. We get a handful of great leaders who slip through the cracks then watch the blob work to sideline them.

James Schwartz's avatar

Which is why it’s time to take down the whole system. A new party that actually adheres to the constitution and balances budgets with serious attention to the debt

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

I agree, but, I think we will need to crash into depression a lot further before such things will be successful. We keep getting told that most countries only last about 200 to 250 years. But in reality those counties still are there. It is the government structure that collapses. England / Great Briton is still there though the empire is gone. China has had many collapses and different governments but they still recognize several thousand years of one society. Rome is gone but it still lies under its wreckage as a people and culture. I think we will be similar and our constitution as written is unique and enlightened and must be deloused and preserved.

James Schwartz's avatar

As long as 1a& 2A survive.

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

I think it is a couple amendments that don't apply anymore that need to be removed, and a lot of supreme court decisions that are ready for the dust bin, along with a few SC Justices.

Jean's avatar

Thank you for this very interesting, if somewhat depressing discussion.

My personal reaction, as an advocate of maximizing all and any opportunities to make our population and ourselves healthier, is to identify and pursue each and every opportunity. I strongly suspect this is the best time we can anticipate. The future, to me, doesn't look very promising.

As for conservative candidates in 2028, we have Vance in training and so far he seems to be rising to the occasion very successfully. We also have Rubio, who is doing a stellar job. Some combination thereof strikes me as hearteningly viable. The only star quality addition that I see is DeSantis (if he divorces from his association with the Bushes).

How the midterms work out could have impact. Any evidence of a meaningful MAHA impact might offer the Secretary a meaningful supporting role.

I, personally don't identify anyone outside of Vance, Rubio and DeSantis as being a really viable candidate.

As for the current MAHA construct and its goals, one has to credit the points for concern that you've raised. For now, we might conclude they may still offer some benefit as we continue to pursue healthful goals. We need to continue to be aware of their utility for such objectives. Divergences should be noted.

For myself, I appreciate and give full credit to Israel's right to their perspectives. If I spent my life as an Israeli under unrelenting hostile fire and antisemitism, I can well see coming to their same positions. To me each person themselves offers merits, demerits and values as an individual. I relate to them on their individual presentations.

Thank you again for your outstanding introduction to the issues at hand. Will be looking forward to your further insights as we travel the road ahead.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Big Chem, Big Agra & Big Pharma are rejoicing! RFK Jr. has been boxed in and marginalized. Bottom line growth will continue and the citizens of the USA will continue to acquire more and more health issues that need Band-Aid treatment. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Jean's avatar

One thing that's been made apparent is we need to investigate and think for ourselves. Relying on experts (paid puppets for pharma, big ag, big food et al) needs to be a thing of the past. Kennedy's latest is an NIH data portal for the public. We need to learn truthful/valid sources for the information we need to seek. Kennedy is sponsoring one for us.

Big E's avatar

The part about investigating and thinking for ourselves is spot on. Agree 100%

However, relying on any government database — regardless of who sets it up — may be unwise. The government doesn’t really want us to know the truth; it doesn’t matter who is in charge.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Yep! NIH still pushes the Vitamin D scenario that is detrimental to a healthy life!

Leo's avatar

Thomas, It is?? Where can I read accurate info re: Vit.D?

Jean's avatar

Agree that's a possibility, if not now, later. But it does speak out that the public needs to seek answers, for themselves and HHS/NIH is (in theory if JB can engineer it) offering a start. (IMA may well end up offering a more effective source).

Big E's avatar

Over time, more independent sources will have the courage to show themselves and start helping folks with health issues. But we firmly believe that government simply will not and cannot be a source of good information, regardless of who is at the helm. The political and financial pressures (including use of taxpayer and NGO money to fund the government engine) cannot be overcome.

In the meantime, we’ve been collecting some independent Holistic and Medical resources (including IMA) for anyone to use if they wish. Start here (short link): https://tinyurl.com/ycyhjy7k

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

and that is why we subscribe to these substacks.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

That is a positive, but what per cent of the population has no understanding of reality and how lifestyle issuers are causing the problems. Each generation looses a little more of rational thought.

Jean's avatar

Valid point! But the percent is going down as implied by reducing numbers getting vaxed. We'll all benefit as more of the population gets on board. Need to start somewhere?

American Citizen's avatar

Yes, we have new elected leaders...but there was not a revolution...so the same insiders/outsiders/bureaucrats and organizations are still involved...not completely but enough to make change difficult. Keep pushing the ball forward.

beccar1954's avatar

Dr. Malone, kudos to your ability to navigate and make sense of the Washington quagmire, where good ideas and ideals sink into the mud. I admire Kennedy. He has accomplished a lot in his short time in office, against huge obstacles. He has brought important issues into public discourse in spite of the labeling as antivaxxer conspiracy theorist (which should be a badge of honor). I don’t think there is any way for him to win a presidential election. He can’t run as a Democrat, Independents never win, and he would split the Republican vote, which is the only hope against a party that is dominated by absolute lunatics. I wish that the MAHA base could see the bigger picture beyond the issues that they focus on so narrowly, and realize that you can’t always get what you want, but you might get what you need. I refer people to Promethean Action, which is exposing the control that the British have had over geopolitics for over a century, which Trump is in the critical process of extricating us from. We need to win our independence back or elections for anyone will be meaningless. https://m.youtube.com/watch?ref=prometheanaction.com&v=e3IjKjRDmTI

American Citizen's avatar

Well stated...indeed Promethean Action sees a bigger picture and how it plays out....the British have been very successful in blaming the Jews for the very things they are doing. Personally I do not know what is true or not, as on a journey looking for truth. Ever interesting.

Carol A  Arroyo's avatar

OiyI I thought my glasses were fogged up reading this entire program of "whose on first", but it was really my eyes rolling in circles. This reminds me of the old verbiage...."baffle them with bullshit." Hope I'm wrong about that. We absolutely, positively need health reform and control over idiots in the Insurance PAK that want to make every person with two symptoms the same in a "lockup, lockin catagory" as if we were robots with a few screws loose. Medicine is not about that, I would pray! People who spend eight to ten years in med school truly want to help find a cure for something that will assist sick people, not make them auto-return patients in a no win situation of doctor visits looking at numbers on a lab test and saying your numbers are good; while you are dying from the wrong medicine for your own body!

Science is Political 2.0's avatar

I know.. which is why I just wrote a note to RNC about the 50 to 100 emails.. I get from Robert Kennedy.. and DJT and all the rest.. it is all a MACHINE with their face on it.. RFK is not sending me those letters a huge PAC.. sigh. and put in the USPS MAIL.. telling them I will be sending sending a check .. letter to Kansas.. but says it is from Arlington. I am worn out from all the "fund raising" we are mid month crises.. etc. :) whatever.

Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

Too much money in politics. The woke trying to buy themselves a senator here in Texas and damn well may pull it off by out funding Paxton by some 300%. Have argued for states banning outside money from all in state elections but my state leg rep tells me SCOTUS would ignore the rights given to states in the Constitution to regulate elections.

Barbara Charis's avatar

It is disgusting that money buys elections and leaves Mr. and Mrs. Average Voter stuck with another America-last, self-serving politician in office recklessly draining taxpayer monies... sinking America deeper and deeper into a pit.

Tom Wigand's avatar

I've stopped donating to any R candidates (the new-Communist Democrats are, of course, a non-starter). Why?

Every one of them appears to go through (required?) "WinRed." Now I'm inundated with unsolicited texts and emails and voice mails from PAC's and candidates I've never heard of. WinRed shares and/or sells donor contact information far and wide.

I'm hoping that with no further contact ($) from me, with the passage of time the volume will eventually trail off.

J Da's avatar

Republican texts have ruined my text messaging with massive assaults. Desperately trying to end it. Luckily they haven’t engulfed my emails with the same problem, but it’s pretty bad there too. I’m a die hard Trump supporter, but this has to turn off a lot of people.

D D's avatar

This breakdown of the system at work is another of your intrigue/ spy novels Extraordinaire. And, it's not fiction or complete fact, but a compilation of both with the suspense of the next chapter waiting with bated breath. The skill that is shown in not making assumptions or naming all names is noteworthy. Kudos!

Handsome Pristine Patriot's avatar

Doc.

You might find the interview with Dr. Peter McCullough on Newsmax quite interesting. As a cardio;ogist, he was asked about Lindsey Graham's heart problem, and he started outlining what happened, and also began to bring up the possibility that the spike protein from the jab may have been a contributor. The host started talking over him until they could get his feed shut off.

From what I remember, Newsmax required their people to take the shot.

I can't find it right now. Maybe later.

Big E's avatar

Newsmax and Fox News both followed Biden’s OSHA rules for large companies and pharma companies provided revenue primarily to Fox. Grok provided some useful details: https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMi1jb3B5_ebcad9a3-c861-4820-bc22-8df8e865608c.

So essentially these “news” organizations required/encouraged their people to take the shot and Fox publicly took money from pharma. They likely did not publicly oppose the rules or refuse the lovely pharma money (that would have required too much courage).

After learning about the vax policies and funding of these networks, we stopped watching since we knew they were captured and destined to tell half truths at best:

Tom Wigand's avatar

NewsMax, along with Fox, also refused to cover the stolen election / coup d'etat of 2020. Controlled opposition working for/with the UniParty subsidiary of the Globalist-CCP Axis.

j lanigan's avatar

We all need to keep informing public and each other. Collectively if we take responsibility for our families health, avoid their processed food, cut out vaccines, drugs etc, we can make a difference in the business profit, where it hurts.

Why does the government pretend to know what is best for us. After Civid most are skeptical of anything they push or advertise.

You all have made a difference. Don't stop what you are doing.

Nicholas Edward Bednarski, MD's avatar

“Kennedy built an apparatus to protect the mission and a coalition to carry it. He is losing command of both at once”. He is, after all, a Kennedy.

mike's avatar

President Trump doesn't flinch. I haven't witnessed his efforts defeating my values. Secretary Kennedy is embroiled in opposition also. We need to realize that the previous administration was the uniparty so overtly working at a fever pitch to continually destroy my world. Still entrenched and effective. I see the scrutiny of minutia plaguing our freedom movement right now. Steady, steady, steady. We just need to keep steady. That's my take anyhow. This uniparty thing is so invasive pervasive. I just don't know anything but resistance. Please pray for all these people.

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

Thanks for this article. Lots to consider in it. We are far from believing that the government is here to help us, even if a number of people in the government are.

I am watching with great concern the war with Iran. It now seems to be going the same way most other wars have gone. a short war to solve a problem then oops, we get bogged down (bogs sound similar to swamps). Then the big players make big money. and the scope of the war escalates. A Thucydides Trap perhaps? So, I see a similar thing where Kennedy has been stymied by the big money interests and we get to watch the pesticides, mRNA injections go on for longer.

Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

That infestation has been allowed to fester for too long and has, thru its own devices and tentacles become a serious threat. The only criticism I have is not having followed thru and totally defusing the irgc

53rd Chapter's avatar

The farmers are not the bad guys here. They see their interests as being fundamentally threatened by the proscription of a ‘miracle’ weed killer. Perhaps the answer is in a laboratory, where a series of improvements in pesticide toxicity can be discovered and implemented. Might sound like an oxymoron, but that’s the challenge. We’ve walked on the moon.

Big E's avatar

With pesticides skating on liability protection, a laboratory solution of improvements (along with other toxic soups) may not happen. There’s no financial incentive to build a better, safer mousetrap/pesticide (any more than there is an incentive to create “better, safer” vaccines — another oxymoron in a liability free environment).

53rd Chapter's avatar

A bit of a Gordian knot, isn’t it, as the article implies. There is no financial incentive because MAHA resolve has been undercut by the political dimension which is corrupted by the lobby, what a mess! Come November, hoping Trump gets back to setting things straight and letting it be known that the Glyphosate days are numbered, thus addressing the valid concern you raise by monetizing incentive.

53rd Chapter's avatar

Of course it would be a mistake not to differentiate, where does the farmer end and BigAg begin? At the end of the day, Big is the problem, BigAg, BigGov, BigPharma. Jefferson lost the argument of the vision with Hamilton. Think it’s time for some “Thomas Thinking” to get out of this Hamiltonian pit.