I got natural immunity. The only vaccine I took was smallpox, polio and Hepatitis when I went overseas. When I was a kid getting to miss school with measles, mumps and chickenpox was something to look forward too. Unfortunately I didn’t get chickenpox until I was grown and it wasn’t fun.
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said on Wednesday that officials in Pennsylvania may have made up deaths that they described as associated with measles.
""The announcement appears to have been premature, and the deaths may even have been altogether fabricated by one of the Governor's hopeful staffers," Kennedy wrote in a post on X. "The Lancaster County Coroner says that it has no record of any measles deaths. State law requires that all measles deaths be reported to the coroner."
Lancaster County Coroner Steve Diamantoni told news outlets and a county commissioner that his office had not handled any deaths from measles. The office did see an infant who died shortly after birth from spleen laceration, and an autopsy determined that the primary cause of death was the laceration, Diamantoni told the Philadelphia Inquirer.
The pathologist who conducted the autopsy did not feel the death was related to measles, the coroner said. The office, which declined to comment to The Epoch Times, is still investigating the cause of the ruptured spleen.
Kennedy also told reporters in an unrelated press conference in Florida that Pennsylvania officials had not provided information about the deaths to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."
The nerve racking thing to me is the more I learn about vaccines the more I realize there are long term effects from these vaccines that have never been studied. I recently heard people that got the measles vaccine are far more likely to get the shingles virus later in life. Or how about vaccines contaminated with SV 40 and the long term effects of that. What will be the results when seniors and the elderly start getting vaccine injections with a much weaker immune system? Do answers to these question cross the mind of the FDA?
I recently heard RFK Jr. say people vaccinated for measles, if I heard it right, are far more likely to get shingles later in life. It may have been the chicken pox vaccine??
I’m not sure if you ever saw the movie Idiocracy. Although it’s a comedy, certainly rude at times, it explains this slope of absolute stupidity we are sliding down.
If a cohort has not been vaccinated,will they probably outlive the vaccinated cohort. So if anything nefarious is going on , the unvaccinated will be a tell. When a group tells you they will kill you or enslave you ,I tend to believe them! IMO
A friend who is 45 just had a doctor's visit that included checking her blood for measles titers. Although she had the childhood vaccinations, she had none. She got the MMR shot and suggested to others to get checked. I was born in 1956 and have natural immunity, so I'm not worried.
God designed our immune system to WORK PROPERLY… catch a virus, recover, acquire immunity, and get “boosted” with every subsequent exposure. I have suspected that Shingles is occurring with more frequency because adults who HAD chickenpox in childhood are no longer getting exposed and boosted because everyone is getting vaccinated so the virus lays dormant and breaks out with a vengeance because the immune system never got the natural boost. Same thing will happen with Measles.
In other words, there is A LOT that isn't known and hasn't been studied under some false premises. The next few years as we approach the age of the unknown outcome will, of course, be a little late to address this dilemma. Is it a big deal for children to have measles now while unvaccinated, any more than it was in my generation of the unvaccinated? Seems far better to let the measles run it's course, but now we have the vaccinated older adults to consider. Quite the unknown.
Thank you for this very thorough discussion of the measles facts and needed answers!
I'm strongly in favor of having full detail before engaging in any therapeutic program. That is to say I'm in favor of being fully informed. This discussion lends itself to a conclusion, for seniors in particular, a great deal of highly relevant information is actually not known.
In my case, I'm not sure that I've had measles. My attending physicians have never asked. I am sure I've never had a measles vax.
Age not withstanding
The current mmr vax is very effective
What are the related risks?
What natural immunities will we loose if we contract measles now? If we get vaxed now?
If we would loose significant immunities, is there anything to do for it?
Another side of these issues
Will answers be sought? and answers provided?
Will "informed consent" be widely honored? Current Federal consideration could result in its no longer applying?
Your surfacing and offering these issues is greatly appreciated! May they be received by sources in a position to initiate action! We are far too often acting on presumptions, beliefs and hopes. This is way too flimsy!
55 here. I had to have the MMR vaccination before I could student teach in 1992 as a booster. I forget which one they said I needed to booster for but they only had the MMR.
When I worked in Employee Health within a large hospital system, some of the young adults vaccinated with 2 doses of MMR had sub therapeutic titers. We then had to administer a MMR booster and repeat their titers. Unknown if they would have been susceptible to measles if exposed.
I wonder if many of the twice-vaccinated won’t even reach sixty-five, because their immune systems were not strengthened by natural infections during childhood. Of course, the connection would be hard to prove because of the onslaught of ultra-processed foods, environmental toxins, and multiple vaccine toxins (especially spike proteins). I suspect that we are going to see a rapidly diminishing lifespan, especially now that children are now getting diseases normally only seen much later in life.
As I understand the study, when measuring loss of total immunity due to measles infection, only antibody titers were measured? So no knowledge re cellular immunity? If so, then I wonder in the case of jabbed seniors getting measles infection, wonder what effect that will have on acquired cancer immunosurveilance?
The title states, "No Twice-Vaccinated Generation Has Reached Sixty-Five." Many of my childhood friends and I received the MMR twice as the first "did not take." We are now over 65 years of age.
Oh that’s similar to the line my mother was given to explain the need for my second immunization for smallpox. Do you wonder how prevalent this type of practice was then? Perhaps this was just the way of explaining/justifying the re immunization when you found out that there was some error or something wrong with the batch or product you had previously administered.
I got natural immunity. The only vaccine I took was smallpox, polio and Hepatitis when I went overseas. When I was a kid getting to miss school with measles, mumps and chickenpox was something to look forward too. Unfortunately I didn’t get chickenpox until I was grown and it wasn’t fun.
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said on Wednesday that officials in Pennsylvania may have made up deaths that they described as associated with measles.
""The announcement appears to have been premature, and the deaths may even have been altogether fabricated by one of the Governor's hopeful staffers," Kennedy wrote in a post on X. "The Lancaster County Coroner says that it has no record of any measles deaths. State law requires that all measles deaths be reported to the coroner."
Lancaster County Coroner Steve Diamantoni told news outlets and a county commissioner that his office had not handled any deaths from measles. The office did see an infant who died shortly after birth from spleen laceration, and an autopsy determined that the primary cause of death was the laceration, Diamantoni told the Philadelphia Inquirer.
The pathologist who conducted the autopsy did not feel the death was related to measles, the coroner said. The office, which declined to comment to The Epoch Times, is still investigating the cause of the ruptured spleen.
Kennedy also told reporters in an unrelated press conference in Florida that Pennsylvania officials had not provided information about the deaths to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/rfk-jr-says-pennsylvania-officials-may-have-fabricated-measles-deaths
I heard that they can't produce the missing measle people ⁉️🤔
Well, it is hard to find a fictional person in real life.
The nerve racking thing to me is the more I learn about vaccines the more I realize there are long term effects from these vaccines that have never been studied. I recently heard people that got the measles vaccine are far more likely to get the shingles virus later in life. Or how about vaccines contaminated with SV 40 and the long term effects of that. What will be the results when seniors and the elderly start getting vaccine injections with a much weaker immune system? Do answers to these question cross the mind of the FDA?
Shingles is the chickenpox virus, not measles.
Do not get the measles jab/shingles connection because 2 entirely different viruses.
I recently heard RFK Jr. say people vaccinated for measles, if I heard it right, are far more likely to get shingles later in life. It may have been the chicken pox vaccine??
What I was wondering. Measles an RNA virus, pox viruses are DNA.
I guess my point is I question injecting older people, like myself, with vaccines. I don’t think they know the repercussions of doing this.
They are over vaccinating period. The risk,from all these childhood diseases is less than the risk they are importing to the elderly.
Agreed, I often wonder if it’s intentional.
We have,entered the domain of "a little knowledge in the hands of a ...."
I’m not sure if you ever saw the movie Idiocracy. Although it’s a comedy, certainly rude at times, it explains this slope of absolute stupidity we are sliding down.
If a cohort has not been vaccinated,will they probably outlive the vaccinated cohort. So if anything nefarious is going on , the unvaccinated will be a tell. When a group tells you they will kill you or enslave you ,I tend to believe them! IMO
Well, speaking from my limited medical understanding, maybe 🤔 we shouldn't have messed with mother nature⁉️
Just saying 😌 🤷 ‼️
A friend who is 45 just had a doctor's visit that included checking her blood for measles titers. Although she had the childhood vaccinations, she had none. She got the MMR shot and suggested to others to get checked. I was born in 1956 and have natural immunity, so I'm not worried.
God designed our immune system to WORK PROPERLY… catch a virus, recover, acquire immunity, and get “boosted” with every subsequent exposure. I have suspected that Shingles is occurring with more frequency because adults who HAD chickenpox in childhood are no longer getting exposed and boosted because everyone is getting vaccinated so the virus lays dormant and breaks out with a vengeance because the immune system never got the natural boost. Same thing will happen with Measles.
In other words, there is A LOT that isn't known and hasn't been studied under some false premises. The next few years as we approach the age of the unknown outcome will, of course, be a little late to address this dilemma. Is it a big deal for children to have measles now while unvaccinated, any more than it was in my generation of the unvaccinated? Seems far better to let the measles run it's course, but now we have the vaccinated older adults to consider. Quite the unknown.
Thank you for this very thorough discussion of the measles facts and needed answers!
I'm strongly in favor of having full detail before engaging in any therapeutic program. That is to say I'm in favor of being fully informed. This discussion lends itself to a conclusion, for seniors in particular, a great deal of highly relevant information is actually not known.
In my case, I'm not sure that I've had measles. My attending physicians have never asked. I am sure I've never had a measles vax.
Age not withstanding
The current mmr vax is very effective
What are the related risks?
What natural immunities will we loose if we contract measles now? If we get vaxed now?
If we would loose significant immunities, is there anything to do for it?
Another side of these issues
Will answers be sought? and answers provided?
Will "informed consent" be widely honored? Current Federal consideration could result in its no longer applying?
Your surfacing and offering these issues is greatly appreciated! May they be received by sources in a position to initiate action! We are far too often acting on presumptions, beliefs and hopes. This is way too flimsy!
Much success and just recognition!
55 here. I had to have the MMR vaccination before I could student teach in 1992 as a booster. I forget which one they said I needed to booster for but they only had the MMR.
When I worked in Employee Health within a large hospital system, some of the young adults vaccinated with 2 doses of MMR had sub therapeutic titers. We then had to administer a MMR booster and repeat their titers. Unknown if they would have been susceptible to measles if exposed.
I wonder if many of the twice-vaccinated won’t even reach sixty-five, because their immune systems were not strengthened by natural infections during childhood. Of course, the connection would be hard to prove because of the onslaught of ultra-processed foods, environmental toxins, and multiple vaccine toxins (especially spike proteins). I suspect that we are going to see a rapidly diminishing lifespan, especially now that children are now getting diseases normally only seen much later in life.
At first I thought you meant it was because they'd all died.
Time will tell - but only if honestly prevails. Lol.
As I understand the study, when measuring loss of total immunity due to measles infection, only antibody titers were measured? So no knowledge re cellular immunity? If so, then I wonder in the case of jabbed seniors getting measles infection, wonder what effect that will have on acquired cancer immunosurveilance?
Can you tell us how to get nanobots out of our bodies? Please? People are pushing colloidal gold, whatever that is. We can’t trust any more….
The title states, "No Twice-Vaccinated Generation Has Reached Sixty-Five." Many of my childhood friends and I received the MMR twice as the first "did not take." We are now over 65 years of age.
Oh that’s similar to the line my mother was given to explain the need for my second immunization for smallpox. Do you wonder how prevalent this type of practice was then? Perhaps this was just the way of explaining/justifying the re immunization when you found out that there was some error or something wrong with the batch or product you had previously administered.