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NCmom's avatar

Thank you. We can only hope the people suing to end the mandate insanity will point out that the overreach question is secondary to the fact it doesn't work.

BaronD's avatar

Actually, I don't consider the overreach as secondary. What if they come out with a vaccine that's 30% better, but 100% more severe adverse reactions? Should they be able to mandate that because it "works"? Why should they be able to mandate *anything*? Screw them.

NCmom's avatar

The problem is right now SCOTUS is thinking "what if the next variant is 30% more lethal and the vaccines offer 100% protection." SCOTUS has allowed every vaccine mandate that hit its desk to stand, including the ones that don't allow for religious exemptions. They are allowing the overreach because the actual humans who sit on SCOTUS, based on their opinions, think the damn shots work and have decided government can force you to take them.

Kill it today and allow public sentiment to catch up with mandates. Enough people have been mandated at everyone's children are very close. A large portion of the country is only just now realizing the vaccines don't work (literally, even when they or their friends got sick with Delta they assumed it was a "rare" outlier - only now is the media admitting they don't work). Those people are not ready to hear the government can't use executive orders to force vaccinations. And I'm including SCOTUS in those people.

We won't win the war with a single battle, but we risk losing it failing to argue the plain truth that the damn things don't even work.

It's going to be a process to end NIH employees getting paid personally for royalties on vaccines. It's going to take a while to change liability laws around vaccinations. It's going to take time to change attitudes towards reality with vaccines. Today we must stop this mandate for this vaccine. What better way to stop mandates than because it doesn't work? In the future people will be able to argue "yeah, it looked like Covid shots worked at first too, it looked like lockdowns and masks might work, but they didn't. OSHA can't mandate things like this (whatever it might be) because they must prove they DO work over a period of time." That actually opens up all mandates to a positive test of proving effectiveness. That is one heck of a positive outcome in limiting overreach.

BaronD's avatar

I'll take any win we can get. My previous was theoretical. You're right.

NCmom's avatar

I agree I’ll take any win. This insanity must end.

Don Midwest's avatar

Thank you for the ongoing work to produce extremely important information that is useful for policy but also for me as a concerned citizen.

I went to the CDC website for an update on Omicron. It is dated 12/17/21, yesterday. True to form they are recommendation vaccination and they are tracking the spread. Delta is still the dominate strain in the US. They probably are updating the site on a regular basis.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/omicron-variant.html

There was almost nothing worthwhile in their entire article. And true to form they had a recommendation for the people that occurs near the end.

"Self-tests can be used at home or anywhere, are easy to use, and produce rapid results. If your self-test has a positive result, stay home or isolate for 10 days, wear a mask if you have contact with others, and call your healthcare provider. If you have any questions about your self-test result, call your healthcare provider or public health department."

A couple of months ago I called my, what I have always considered to be outstanding primary care provider, and her nurse said that she follows the CDC guidelines. So full circle right back to the consistent disaster "treatment" of stay home until sick enough to go to the hospital and with earlier variants, once in the hospital the "treatment" after the virus has left is to head to ER and ventilator, and maybe you will be alive to come home.

Wow!! Waiting until the CDC recommends early treatments like D3, etc. Has anybody told them?

For those interested in early treatment who want references to the literature, this site lists 30 treatments on the left margin and links to 1,204 studies. But important to remember that a multi-drug approach gives the best result. There are many protocols available but my favorite are the protocols on flccc.net

https://c19early.com/

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

This is the Medical Con Job of the 21st Century!

Aimee's avatar

Thanks for those links!

Linden's avatar

My previously wonderful osteopathic doc has gone over to the dark side, and is now not only not treating her patients for COVID, SHE HAS WITHDRAWN FROM ANY HOSPITAL CARE AT ALL. AND...She has not notified any of her patients... I found out by accident. So she is concealing this, to keep the easiest part of her practice...Office visits.

So if I have a heart attack, I get taken care of by a "hospitalist", a floor doc paid by the hospital, with whom I have no relationship at all. I have been abandoned by her, and so has everybody else. And altho she claims to be a devout Catholic, that God-given conscience is not functioning anymore.

Terrifying.

Don Midwest's avatar

My doctor did that a few years ago. I didn't think much about it because I had a lung infection, histoplasmosis, and because we had been to China, I was treated by the infectious doctors. Actually the doc who tracked down Legionnares disease. And when I had a mild TIA, I went to the ER and was treated by hospital doctors. It wasn't until right now when I know about early treatments that I got up the courage to ask my new GP and got the answer that she follows the CDC guidelines. In other words, my GP doctors have been away from the hospital for some years and I didn't even notice. They never visited when in the hospital for a total of about 12 days for the two cases.

In other words, general practice and hospitals are separate entities in my case. Thus the tried and true colonization strategy of divide and conquer has been used to separate outpatient and inpatient care and since Covid 19 was declared to be a pandemic, and (oh crap - I just had a thought, doctors have become pill pushers like mechanics that simply replace parts) so I just realized that C19 has exposed another failure of our "health system"

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Prevention and reversal of disease states is the answer to 95% of health issues in the world. The problem is that it is not profitable for big Pharma!

NCmom's avatar

100% Agree!!!! Big pharma is so entrenched - unless we let literally millions of people be harmed by either refusing to work or the vaccines themselves this will go on. We have made great progress getting people to wake up from their idiotic woke coma. We need to keep pressing hard. And we need to protect the people refusing to comply. Those continuing to take these shots fall into the category of "you can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink." Still, most thirsty horses will gladly drink - we need more time to lead those to water.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

A Great challenge with the bias media following the narrative of fear and indoctrinating the masses!

NCmom's avatar

The purchased media - by big pharma with our tax dollars

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Pushing the fear rather than looking at the science continues down the wrong path for what end? The data from day one indicated this is not a pandemic when 99.8% of those who acquire the Covid achieve natural immunity! The .2% can be treated with the correct medical protocol and majority would be saved. Fauci’s Failed and Fatal Medical Directive needs to be cancel NOW!

Tocqueville's avatar

I think that there is an error in your summary of the Danish study, Dr. Malone. You wrote:

"76% were fully or booster vaccinated, 14% not vaccinated"

But the study says:

"A total of 599 (76%) cases were fully vaccinated and an additional 56 (7.1%) had received full vaccination plus a booster dose.".

Which means that 83.1% (76% + 7.1%) were fully or booster vaccinated. Considering that only 76% of the Danish population is either fully of booster vaccinated, that's something worth investigating.

Jacques Uze's avatar

Thank you, Dr. Malone.

Leslie's avatar

Thank you. Appreciate the read and clarity in the writing.

David Watson's avatar

How are they determining virus type? PCR can't discriminate, so they need sequencing to define mutations, which is much more expensive and limited capacity. Are they actually testing all the patients, or just assuming the statistically prevalent strain?

Joseph Henry's avatar

I recall something from when I was listening to Dr. Peter McCulloch on the Joe Rogan show saying that some component of the PCR test was extremely different with the Omnicom and that’s how they knew the was different. I just learned from a Google search that there is a PCR test that differentiates strains. See https://www.seegene.com/assays/allplex_sars-cov-2_master_assay

Joseph Henry's avatar

Just found a YouTube explaining how this one company has a method of showing with the strain is not available in the US from what I can tell. See https://youtu.be/nCgq5Tlq_Ic

Jacques Uze's avatar

Just hypothetically, if Omicron had been the first variant detected back in 2019/2020, the media would have told everyone there was nothing to worry about, and life would have proceeded as normal.

Jon Schultz's avatar

I would like to see comments on the assertions being made by Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding at https://twitter.com/DrEricDing, specifically with regard to the expected effects of the omicron variant - which the data he is quoting leads him to think will be severe - and the conclusions of the Imperial College study. Thank you for your work, Dr. Malone!

Helen Collier's avatar

Thank you for posting. I am sick of the media overblowing Omicron Variant. Sick of it.

Joseph Henry's avatar

In Oregon our governor‘s news conference the other day mentioned the Denmark numbers and they are basing Oregon’s outcome as that in three weeks from now Omnicom will be the dominant strain and it will be worse than the Delta search. Peter Graven, Ph.D., (OHSU)

Peter Graven, Ph.D. (OHSU)

“We have about two to three weeks before we’ll see omicron accelerate and become the dominant strain of SARS-CoV-2 circulating in Oregon,” said Peter Graven, Ph.D., director of the OHSU Office of Advanced Analytics. “We expect that cases will ramp up quickly.” See

https://news.ohsu.edu/2021/12/17/dec-17-forecast-omicron-variant-will-eclipse-delta-surge

Jacques Uze's avatar

As usual, “dominant strain” and “more cases” are used as covers for “much less severe” and “extremely few deaths.”

Aimee's avatar

Anyone know if this testing company is legit?

https://www.t-detect.com/

Just the facts, Ma’am's avatar

How does a later variant “displace” an earlier variant?

Dr. Robert W. Malone's avatar

In this case, it is much more transmissible (infectious)