If those birds were sick letting the vultures feast on them would be a good way to spread disease. This shows a good case for liability and incompetence of the government and case for compensation for the farmers.
I have been watching vultures feasting on a deer on the side of the road for about a week. Possums and other critters as well. I worry about feces as away of viruses passing along to other animals and birds. This would not be the problem for the Ostriches since they were not ill with bird flu. They would have buried or burned the carcasses if they had been infected.
Look out seems vultures as carrion will spread the virus… not! What a shambles, yet they say that is science, to trust the science, makes it difficult to so do when even a lay person smells inept, unprofessional out of whack protocol and processes that is anything but scientific occasioning in front of them… so much hard work by scientists of good conscience, decency and honesty undone by a few readily bought, corrupted? That or they are simply not qualified to be given the honour of being referred to as a scientist, as being involved and engaged in science .. just saying
Last night I watched the movie "Division". It is about combating a deadly small pox pandemic in NY city that is killing people in the street. They are showing gas masked medical personal incinerating the bodies in the street. Shameful that the Canadian bureaucrats haven't got a clue that they are creating great harm in their decision making. It was wrong to kill the ostriches in the first place and then allow them to be carrion. I hope that the South Korean GOF bird flu virus which reportedly kill 100% of the test animals doesn't escape and create the NY scenario in the USA in 2026.
I think the Mamdani virus will wipe out NYC in due time. BTW: Muslims in America are still planning for a caliphate—many are in legislative positions both state and federal, ready to pass their laws upon America. The threat is real, and they are as serious as the Democrats in taking America down.
Vietnam Creates Chimeric Bird Flu Hybrid, combining human and avian genes, that Multiplies 800% More Efficiently Using U.S. Reverse Genetics System: Journal 'Veterinary Research Forum'.
The more I think about this tragic event the more I see a lack of respect for all living things. Our collective medical world mindset has the same derangement syndrome. Autism condition is an unspeakable tragedy that should never exist if we truly would address the root causes without reservation .
"So particularly in Canada, keep a low profile- if they can kill the ostriches, the pet squirrels and raccoons, and backyard flocks everywhere, what will stop them from killing your animals?"
And the eligibility of who’s eligible for “Medical Assistance In Dying” (MAID) is forever increasing. Kids are eligible. The left has such nice words for suicide/murder
Yes, and since the Chinese set up the enormous fentanyl pipeline in Canada, and Canadians have been dragging their feet to help Trump get rid of it, I think we of common sense have to surmise that this cartel is all for this new form of assisted suicide. Allegedly. Food and housing is prohibitively expensive now in Canada.
Yes, I was alleging that each method was in some way or other, condoned by the state. Young people are "choosing" being euthanized for reasons as small as depression (what young person is not depressed at some time or other?)
Yes. MAID. If you are depressed, you can ask for Euthanasia. They are killing thousands of people, young, middle and old aged. The families of those people do NOT KNOW that the killers are SELLING the organs. People check a box on their Driver Licence giving permission to donate their organs…total VIRTUE Signal. BUT they don’t know that Canada has a law of a death declaration that if your brain ‘mainlines’, the Vulture Squad can come in, even if the heart and lungs are working, to take your organs. Huge money. Canada is now the filthy recognized country as the largest seller of human organs, even surpassing China.
Most immigrants do not come to live in a democracy. They come to enjoy the prosperity created by the labor and initiative of mostly Scottish, French, and English earlier settlers. This pattern is true throughout the West, with one group in particular getting dominance through violence.
In my case, if my written orders are honored, I will be cremated with all of my organs in place. I have NOT agreed to donate them at any time. I consider that to be too great an incentive for government, doctors, or others to kill me.
Well, I guess that I can't speak for how others view me; but, I self-classify as human:-) I was commenting on Canadian government killing. While I do feel like I am also targeted for death here in the USA, I do not think it is the current government that is targeting me.
Kati the property owner and the owner of the ostriches could hear the gunshots killing each of her animals throughout the night. Imagine a government coming onto your property setting up a killing pen and you are forced to sit by and listen to your animals be shot one by one. This sounds like a historical story of an out of control tyrannical government killing a persons livestock because they can. This is a video of a friend of the owners that tried to stop. It. How can we allow this?
Horrifying! That is exactly what I imagined as I read Dr. Jill's article, and it is so close to what was done by the Nazi's to both people and animals during WWII that it gives me an immediate stomach ache and heartache. Decades ago, I was so impacted by Dr. Konrad Lorenz's book 'The Year of the Greylag Goose' that I was going to become an Ethologist. Although I never did pursue that, I have been very interested in the cross-species bonds that develop ever since. Simply put, without a farm myself, I sure do feel an attachment to an assortment of creatures that makes this scenario horrifying, heinous, and heart-breaking. Is there anything in the way of a law that would stop that being able to be done in the US?
Animals r sentient beings. It was being researched years ago and found to be true. The researchers stopped their study bec they were horrified how sentient animals are.
I have 4 cats now I am trying to rehome after someone dumped them outside (yes, pre-wintertime.)
The husband, the wife, the son, and the brother-in-law. All get along, although the husband does not like the b-i-l much. 😂 They all hang out, watch out for each other, and stay together. The mother still cleans the son and her brother, and is crazy-in-love with her husband. (Very nice mother kitty)
Some have no clue of the life of animals.
It must have been pure terror for those birds to watch each other being shot in front of them all. I'm sure the birds were not standing still and had to be chased around in order to shoot them. Some prob got struck and kept running, etc.
Yes, my own experience with cats, dogs, birds, and horses has given me plenty of examples that animals are intelligent, and develop relationships with people as well as other animals. Perhaps less widely recognized is that they also have emotional reactions. Our community had a Police Chief who killed some shelter animals and tried to pass it off as "euthanasia". He is no longer here. Humans are capable of some truly evil deeds.
Yes, that’s the understatement of the year. A squirrel got squashed on the road and the other squirrel kept running back and forth from the side of the road to the dead squirrel saying, “Hey, get up. Come on, let’s go.” So heartbreaking to watch that. I dragged the dead squirrel to the side of the road.
I hope she recorded it, and has the number of shots on record. If they are really "sharpshooters", there should be no more than 400 shots. If there are more shots than animals, they should be sued for misinforming the public, displaying their inhumane treatment of animals.
There were those grinding machines earlier. You know they weren't feeding those birds. Some estimated that by the time the shooting began, there were likely only 300 ostriches left.
Didn’t know that ostriches live up to 75 years old. It certainly means they have a strong constitution and a strong immune system, which means they are almost impervious to the bird flu. I buy my eggs from a local farmer who raises the chickens outdoors and not in a tin barn without sunlight. Giving chickens and turkeys their personal space and sunlight keep them healthy.. when they are restricted their stress level goes up and their immune system becomes vulnerable. It is simple as that, but we keep pushing the tin barn routine because they need antibiotics and other supplements such as calcitriol, which is vitamin D to keep healthy. Bureaucratic derangement syndrome runs wild in Canada.
I know, but that kind of thinking is a trap they want us to fall into. Negative thinking upon others, only hurts ourselves. We must resist vengeful thoughts, as they only weaken us.
We must always flow love, even to such people. God will take care of them. This u can be sure of.
There is something interesting going on. Here in the Denver area we usually notice large flocks of Canadian geese coming in by now. That's not happening this year. Now, it's been warmer than usual, so maybe that's holding them back. A cold snap is due in this weekend, but forecast to be back up in 60s past that. Where are they?
I am sickened by any bloodlust for the death of the innocents. Birds, beasts, even down to amphibians and insects (altho the cockroach, tick and mosquito aren't favorities). Sacrifice (I do believe it is one) of an animal for a food source is one thing, but trophy killing or just plain wholesale slaughter for slaughter's sake is a disease. I say that because it's documented that psychologically impaired individuals are known to start their killing mania with the torment and destruction of an animal.
Beware Canada and be watchful USA. They are instructing on how to become psychological, maniacal killing robots.
The deliberate and cruel senselessness of this unnecessary slaughter is chilling and inhumane. What's the real reason they're doing this? I can't imagine it's pure ignorance.
This is beyond sickening and brings tears to my eyes to think of what these poor animals and their owners endured at the hands of an out of control government. So cruel and beyond sad. Who could carry this out for no good reason and sleep at night? That’s the truly terrifying thought!
Have the Canucks, gone completely mad! What's the problem up there Canada? Can't Euthanize enough humans fast enough. Ya, gotta go for these beautiful defenseless birds. There is no excuse for this, when they were offered other, legitimate options. This is some sick evil shite!
I cannot imagine the helpless rage that these good people endured. Not to mention the terror of the animals themselves. There is no explanation other than "because we can!" for the control freaks and nihilists who perpetrated this horror.
My small chicken flock has had a sick bird now and then. We've only culled one. I used a chlorine dioxide solution in their water for 3 days, and they've responded quite well.
My vet's shunted me off on an associate because I won't vaccinate my dogs anymore. We DO get an annual rabies titer, though, as we're quite rural. It is possible to disengage from the "system".
There are real monsters in this world and they are human. I just cannot comprehend the Canadian goverment being so drunk on power they made these wonderful beings suffer and then killed in such a barbaric manner. The poor owner, my heart goes out to her and this will probably do irreputable harm and effect her for the rest of her life....and there is no recourse for her to take. If I lived in Canada I think I would leave.
I am pretty pissed about the slaughter. If those birds were sick they would have died on their own a long time ago. This was just the Canadian government flexing its muscles against farmers that dare resist their totalitarian authority.
As a veterinarian myself with backyard birds. I don't EVER treat my birds with antibiotics. Yes, we occasionally have an ill bird, but most do just fine with no intervention. We have layers that are in an enclosure and games that run loose and clean our pastures.
Our biggest losses have been from a family of foxes nearby that developed a KFC appetite. Sadly, the foxes were also diseased and we handled it as farmers have for a long time.
Our chickens are healthy and happy. They thrive. We have not seen mass die offs.
We live near the H5N1 epicenter of UGA's Poultry Research....and somehow, our birds do not seem to be bothered by it.
In vet school in the 1990s, I was taught about depop/repop. Meaning culling and replacement. I didn't think much about it because I have not practiced population medicine. But the more I see of it in practice, the dumber it is.......supposedly the logic is you have to cull them all to prevent morbidity and mortality....OK....so, a high mortality rate is typically 25%(despite what the news says).....and then you will have some decreased production while the survivors recover....so at MOST, you lose maybe 35% of production....at MOST.....so to prevent that......you kill 100%????
Even worse, remember the hoof and mouth disease outbreak in the UK years ago? Hoof an mouth isn't even usually fatal....just causes decreased production. So....they KILLED how many hooved animals to prevent....NO DEATH.
We have to get back to letting diseases run through populations. In livestock operations, we expect some losses...it's part of farming. It sucks, but it is what it is. Breeding the strong after a disease cycle is the most logical thing.
I still remember one of my professors in biology undergrad musing that, by saving cancer patients, especially those who might go on to have children, we have effectively decreased the survivability of the human race. Then he said, 'but you can't say that out loud because you can't talk about only the strong surviving in humans.' He was right.
Anyway, my birds live and die like they should. Some get sick, some die, but most do well and they do better every year.
Oh be still my heart! Poor Katie. Listening to her beloved birds being shot to death! I feed massive flocks of wild geese and Mallards on my lake twice a day. It hurts to think of them in such a haunting situation! After 11 months of the case going through the court system? Those birds would have shown their diseases by then! Those had to be healthy birds! I am heartsick. Thank you for the post, Drs Malone. My waterfowl are going to get an extra serving of corn tonight!
I was appalled and heartbroken to hear and then see the results of the slaughter of ostriches. Sad and unsettling. Canada has become a weird and authoritarian country. No species is safe in Canada!
I edited in an update and photo of the carcasses - now sitting in the open
“ X journalists have now posted photos and careful eyes note that there are vultures sitting on the carcasses”
If those birds were sick letting the vultures feast on them would be a good way to spread disease. This shows a good case for liability and incompetence of the government and case for compensation for the farmers.
Oddly enough Vulture's are capable of this type of thing.
Even consuming weeks old roadkill types of carrion without a hitch.
And having Zero effect to them.
The ugly grim reapers clean up crew in the animal world.
I have been watching vultures feasting on a deer on the side of the road for about a week. Possums and other critters as well. I worry about feces as away of viruses passing along to other animals and birds. This would not be the problem for the Ostriches since they were not ill with bird flu. They would have buried or burned the carcasses if they had been infected.
Cats and dogs are resistant to salmonella - same reason.
Correct! As Dogs are scavengers by DNA and Cats are the solo hunters.
Hey Randall, please connect the dots for me why being solo hunters cats are . . . resistant or whatever? thx.
It would be the result of them readily able to eat and ingest raw meat.
They can dissect parts of Rodents/ Avian/ and insects without harm.
Not something humans can do with any success.
We like ours cooked to perfection or ground into patties for digestion.
This needs to happen.
100% you are RIGHT!!!!!
Look out seems vultures as carrion will spread the virus… not! What a shambles, yet they say that is science, to trust the science, makes it difficult to so do when even a lay person smells inept, unprofessional out of whack protocol and processes that is anything but scientific occasioning in front of them… so much hard work by scientists of good conscience, decency and honesty undone by a few readily bought, corrupted? That or they are simply not qualified to be given the honour of being referred to as a scientist, as being involved and engaged in science .. just saying
Kia Kaha (stay strong) from New Zealand
Last night I watched the movie "Division". It is about combating a deadly small pox pandemic in NY city that is killing people in the street. They are showing gas masked medical personal incinerating the bodies in the street. Shameful that the Canadian bureaucrats haven't got a clue that they are creating great harm in their decision making. It was wrong to kill the ostriches in the first place and then allow them to be carrion. I hope that the South Korean GOF bird flu virus which reportedly kill 100% of the test animals doesn't escape and create the NY scenario in the USA in 2026.
I think the Mamdani virus will wipe out NYC in due time. BTW: Muslims in America are still planning for a caliphate—many are in legislative positions both state and federal, ready to pass their laws upon America. The threat is real, and they are as serious as the Democrats in taking America down.
https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/vietnam-creates-chimeric-bird-flu
Vietnam Creates Chimeric Bird Flu Hybrid, combining human and avian genes, that Multiplies 800% More Efficiently Using U.S. Reverse Genetics System: Journal 'Veterinary Research Forum'.
Whaaaat!! Is this world going off the rails?
I saw that one too! Or was South Korea a false flag?
totally off the hook.
Sigh...experts have NO common sense!
The more I think about this tragic event the more I see a lack of respect for all living things. Our collective medical world mindset has the same derangement syndrome. Autism condition is an unspeakable tragedy that should never exist if we truly would address the root causes without reservation .
Funny how the blame is always wild birds, not the massive intense factories where most chicken is grown?
As for Canada we are in a weird woke NSDAP style rule reminiscent of 1930’s Germany. And because orange man bad we are doubling down on woke.
It's almost as if this decision were some sort of retaliation for Trump's tariffs....
"So particularly in Canada, keep a low profile- if they can kill the ostriches, the pet squirrels and raccoons, and backyard flocks everywhere, what will stop them from killing your animals?"
Canada has already progressed to killing humans.
And the eligibility of who’s eligible for “Medical Assistance In Dying” (MAID) is forever increasing. Kids are eligible. The left has such nice words for suicide/murder
Classic "slippery slope."
You might like my comment below referencing the movie "Soylent Green."
Yes, love what you wrote. I also remember the other dramatic ending by Charlton Heston in Planet of the Apes:
"God d@mn you all to hell!"
It's PEOPLE!
Yes, and since the Chinese set up the enormous fentanyl pipeline in Canada, and Canadians have been dragging their feet to help Trump get rid of it, I think we of common sense have to surmise that this cartel is all for this new form of assisted suicide. Allegedly. Food and housing is prohibitively expensive now in Canada.
I do not get the connection between the (fentanyl?) cartel and assisted suicide. Presumably, these are alternative routes to the same end.
Yes, I was alleging that each method was in some way or other, condoned by the state. Young people are "choosing" being euthanized for reasons as small as depression (what young person is not depressed at some time or other?)
Thanks for clarification. I was a bit uncertain and did not want to just assume I understood.
I love the communications on this site. Very cool. Thanks.
Yes. MAID. If you are depressed, you can ask for Euthanasia. They are killing thousands of people, young, middle and old aged. The families of those people do NOT KNOW that the killers are SELLING the organs. People check a box on their Driver Licence giving permission to donate their organs…total VIRTUE Signal. BUT they don’t know that Canada has a law of a death declaration that if your brain ‘mainlines’, the Vulture Squad can come in, even if the heart and lungs are working, to take your organs. Huge money. Canada is now the filthy recognized country as the largest seller of human organs, even surpassing China.
Let’s not forget that people like myself (unvaccinated) are STILL ineligible to receive an organ transplant. Because science.
Most of us have opted out of organ donations. This country is insane, what on earth is going on with the former commonwealth nations???
Most immigrants do not come to live in a democracy. They come to enjoy the prosperity created by the labor and initiative of mostly Scottish, French, and English earlier settlers. This pattern is true throughout the West, with one group in particular getting dominance through violence.
In my case, if my written orders are honored, I will be cremated with all of my organs in place. I have NOT agreed to donate them at any time. I consider that to be too great an incentive for government, doctors, or others to kill me.
Or you - which is also happening there
Well, I guess that I can't speak for how others view me; but, I self-classify as human:-) I was commenting on Canadian government killing. While I do feel like I am also targeted for death here in the USA, I do not think it is the current government that is targeting me.
Kati the property owner and the owner of the ostriches could hear the gunshots killing each of her animals throughout the night. Imagine a government coming onto your property setting up a killing pen and you are forced to sit by and listen to your animals be shot one by one. This sounds like a historical story of an out of control tyrannical government killing a persons livestock because they can. This is a video of a friend of the owners that tried to stop. It. How can we allow this?
https://open.substack.com/pub/captroyharkness/p/consummatum-est?r=1lmdet&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
Heartbreaking, in so many ways!!! 💔
Horrifying! That is exactly what I imagined as I read Dr. Jill's article, and it is so close to what was done by the Nazi's to both people and animals during WWII that it gives me an immediate stomach ache and heartache. Decades ago, I was so impacted by Dr. Konrad Lorenz's book 'The Year of the Greylag Goose' that I was going to become an Ethologist. Although I never did pursue that, I have been very interested in the cross-species bonds that develop ever since. Simply put, without a farm myself, I sure do feel an attachment to an assortment of creatures that makes this scenario horrifying, heinous, and heart-breaking. Is there anything in the way of a law that would stop that being able to be done in the US?
To me you can conclude it’s the heartless satanic killing peoples animals today, tomorrow it will be people.
Today it is people through their euthasia program with ever increasing criteria to approve deaths.
James: It already is. We call it "war."
Right u r
It's been here forever, but is accelerating now.
Animals r sentient beings. It was being researched years ago and found to be true. The researchers stopped their study bec they were horrified how sentient animals are.
I have 4 cats now I am trying to rehome after someone dumped them outside (yes, pre-wintertime.)
The husband, the wife, the son, and the brother-in-law. All get along, although the husband does not like the b-i-l much. 😂 They all hang out, watch out for each other, and stay together. The mother still cleans the son and her brother, and is crazy-in-love with her husband. (Very nice mother kitty)
Some have no clue of the life of animals.
It must have been pure terror for those birds to watch each other being shot in front of them all. I'm sure the birds were not standing still and had to be chased around in order to shoot them. Some prob got struck and kept running, etc.
People suck.
Yes, my own experience with cats, dogs, birds, and horses has given me plenty of examples that animals are intelligent, and develop relationships with people as well as other animals. Perhaps less widely recognized is that they also have emotional reactions. Our community had a Police Chief who killed some shelter animals and tried to pass it off as "euthanasia". He is no longer here. Humans are capable of some truly evil deeds.
Yes, that’s the understatement of the year. A squirrel got squashed on the road and the other squirrel kept running back and forth from the side of the road to the dead squirrel saying, “Hey, get up. Come on, let’s go.” So heartbreaking to watch that. I dragged the dead squirrel to the side of the road.
I hope she recorded it, and has the number of shots on record. If they are really "sharpshooters", there should be no more than 400 shots. If there are more shots than animals, they should be sued for misinforming the public, displaying their inhumane treatment of animals.
There were those grinding machines earlier. You know they weren't feeding those birds. Some estimated that by the time the shooting began, there were likely only 300 ostriches left.
I have a hard time imagining I would. I rather go down with them.
I hope she dies them into oblivion!
Didn’t know that ostriches live up to 75 years old. It certainly means they have a strong constitution and a strong immune system, which means they are almost impervious to the bird flu. I buy my eggs from a local farmer who raises the chickens outdoors and not in a tin barn without sunlight. Giving chickens and turkeys their personal space and sunlight keep them healthy.. when they are restricted their stress level goes up and their immune system becomes vulnerable. It is simple as that, but we keep pushing the tin barn routine because they need antibiotics and other supplements such as calcitriol, which is vitamin D to keep healthy. Bureaucratic derangement syndrome runs wild in Canada.
Agreed!
From one pharmacist to another.
Stooge is too polite of a term for the people who shot these birds.
I hope bad things happen to these people.
I know, but that kind of thinking is a trap they want us to fall into. Negative thinking upon others, only hurts ourselves. We must resist vengeful thoughts, as they only weaken us.
We must always flow love, even to such people. God will take care of them. This u can be sure of.
So true.
There is something interesting going on. Here in the Denver area we usually notice large flocks of Canadian geese coming in by now. That's not happening this year. Now, it's been warmer than usual, so maybe that's holding them back. A cold snap is due in this weekend, but forecast to be back up in 60s past that. Where are they?
I am sickened by any bloodlust for the death of the innocents. Birds, beasts, even down to amphibians and insects (altho the cockroach, tick and mosquito aren't favorities). Sacrifice (I do believe it is one) of an animal for a food source is one thing, but trophy killing or just plain wholesale slaughter for slaughter's sake is a disease. I say that because it's documented that psychologically impaired individuals are known to start their killing mania with the torment and destruction of an animal.
Beware Canada and be watchful USA. They are instructing on how to become psychological, maniacal killing robots.
FBI criteria to ID a serial killer or serial killer wannabe (from a workplace training some time ago):
fire setting, bed wetting, and animal abuse.
In Northern Indiana, the leaves should be almost all brown and fallen by now, but the leaves are still on the trees and some r still green.
Weirder than weird.
Somebody must stop these madmen.
Underdog, where are u? ~Pretty Polly
If only...
The deliberate and cruel senselessness of this unnecessary slaughter is chilling and inhumane. What's the real reason they're doing this? I can't imagine it's pure ignorance.
Totalitarian control of those who resist
But what do they say is the reason, or do they just say go away and the Canadian press has been totally gelded?
To instill fear and insecurity
This is beyond sickening and brings tears to my eyes to think of what these poor animals and their owners endured at the hands of an out of control government. So cruel and beyond sad. Who could carry this out for no good reason and sleep at night? That’s the truly terrifying thought!
Following orders
Have the Canucks, gone completely mad! What's the problem up there Canada? Can't Euthanize enough humans fast enough. Ya, gotta go for these beautiful defenseless birds. There is no excuse for this, when they were offered other, legitimate options. This is some sick evil shite!
I cannot imagine the helpless rage that these good people endured. Not to mention the terror of the animals themselves. There is no explanation other than "because we can!" for the control freaks and nihilists who perpetrated this horror.
My small chicken flock has had a sick bird now and then. We've only culled one. I used a chlorine dioxide solution in their water for 3 days, and they've responded quite well.
My vet's shunted me off on an associate because I won't vaccinate my dogs anymore. We DO get an annual rabies titer, though, as we're quite rural. It is possible to disengage from the "system".
So far....
Ok, so if all the animals in the office are vaccinated and mine isn't, there should be no threat for mine to come in, no?
There are no words...
There are real monsters in this world and they are human. I just cannot comprehend the Canadian goverment being so drunk on power they made these wonderful beings suffer and then killed in such a barbaric manner. The poor owner, my heart goes out to her and this will probably do irreputable harm and effect her for the rest of her life....and there is no recourse for her to take. If I lived in Canada I think I would leave.
I am pretty pissed about the slaughter. If those birds were sick they would have died on their own a long time ago. This was just the Canadian government flexing its muscles against farmers that dare resist their totalitarian authority.
As a veterinarian myself with backyard birds. I don't EVER treat my birds with antibiotics. Yes, we occasionally have an ill bird, but most do just fine with no intervention. We have layers that are in an enclosure and games that run loose and clean our pastures.
Our biggest losses have been from a family of foxes nearby that developed a KFC appetite. Sadly, the foxes were also diseased and we handled it as farmers have for a long time.
Our chickens are healthy and happy. They thrive. We have not seen mass die offs.
We live near the H5N1 epicenter of UGA's Poultry Research....and somehow, our birds do not seem to be bothered by it.
In vet school in the 1990s, I was taught about depop/repop. Meaning culling and replacement. I didn't think much about it because I have not practiced population medicine. But the more I see of it in practice, the dumber it is.......supposedly the logic is you have to cull them all to prevent morbidity and mortality....OK....so, a high mortality rate is typically 25%(despite what the news says).....and then you will have some decreased production while the survivors recover....so at MOST, you lose maybe 35% of production....at MOST.....so to prevent that......you kill 100%????
Even worse, remember the hoof and mouth disease outbreak in the UK years ago? Hoof an mouth isn't even usually fatal....just causes decreased production. So....they KILLED how many hooved animals to prevent....NO DEATH.
We have to get back to letting diseases run through populations. In livestock operations, we expect some losses...it's part of farming. It sucks, but it is what it is. Breeding the strong after a disease cycle is the most logical thing.
I still remember one of my professors in biology undergrad musing that, by saving cancer patients, especially those who might go on to have children, we have effectively decreased the survivability of the human race. Then he said, 'but you can't say that out loud because you can't talk about only the strong surviving in humans.' He was right.
Anyway, my birds live and die like they should. Some get sick, some die, but most do well and they do better every year.
I imagine we will scale back the vaccine requirements once Kennedy is done with them. 🙏🏻
Oh be still my heart! Poor Katie. Listening to her beloved birds being shot to death! I feed massive flocks of wild geese and Mallards on my lake twice a day. It hurts to think of them in such a haunting situation! After 11 months of the case going through the court system? Those birds would have shown their diseases by then! Those had to be healthy birds! I am heartsick. Thank you for the post, Drs Malone. My waterfowl are going to get an extra serving of corn tonight!
Barbara, I trust that corn is organic...
Did u know corn is a grass?
I know farmers who let their "grass-fed" cattle graze on their corn fields bec corn is a grass. 🤣
From my county co-op from local farms. ❤️
Local farms can spray pesticides, etc., unless certified or personally verified.
It's all smoke and mirrors unless you fix the food yourself.
Hope ur not feeding them bread as well...
Everyone knows you do not feed them bread! Bad for them.
I told this lady not to feed them bread and she does it anyway. wt...?
I was appalled and heartbroken to hear and then see the results of the slaughter of ostriches. Sad and unsettling. Canada has become a weird and authoritarian country. No species is safe in Canada!