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Karen Cook's avatar

Important post! Don’t play into the hateful rhetoric. Praying for his beautiful family and all those impacted by this senseless tragedy.

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Lekimball's avatar

The truth will come out. This is heartbreaking, Dr. Malone. Nobody should behave like these people do. But things need to be addressed in some way. I loved JD Vance's words. And Melania's. I am gutted.

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WvVet's avatar

From our FBI??

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Lekimball's avatar

What? Yes, from our FBI.

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Tom Potts's avatar

The new and improved FBI, run by Director Kash Patel.

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Lekimball's avatar

Yes, they are improved. Maybe not perfect yet.

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Tom Potts's avatar

Of course not. Some of the ancient fossiles hang on, waiting for their opportunity to toss Molotov cocktails 🍹

In Kremmerer, Wyoming, right next to Idaho, you still can go fishing for fossils. You pay by the half hour, and they give you a hammer and chisel. And a huge mass of rocks. 🪨. Take a rock, hit it with your hammer and chisel, and absolutely almost every single one of them produces a fossile fish. Or more. If it is very valuable, then you have already signed away your rights to own it, when they gave you the hammer and chisel.

They are really fun at parties, and especially for grandchildren. You can say that Nana and Papa went fishing…..🎣. For fossils. I’m not joking.

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Lekimball's avatar

Ok then. You are mixing your metaphors. Most people don't fish with a hammer and chisel. I know because I come from a family of fisherman and boat captains in Grand Traverse Bay. I know a few fossils and they hold great wisdom for those who afford them respect.

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Eugene H's avatar

Improved???? List the firings, Please. Who has gone to court let alone prison???? Why haven't the two FBI agents sent to interview Flynn been fired then arrested for falsifying his (Flynns) statements????????????

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Larry Cox's avatar

The truth about things like this is a very thin line that seldom gets publicly explored. I would be surprised if any governmental investigatory body solves this one. The criminal world works deep and its truths are very seldom told. That would be the day!

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Lekimball's avatar

We'll see, I guess.

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Julia Pomeroy's avatar

Unfortunately, J D Vance has the financial backing of Peter Thiel, so his words should be viewed with extreme caution. This is according to Patrick Wood who was interviewed on Wednesday night by Pastor Brandon Holthaus at Rock Harbor Church, Bakersfield, Calif.

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Lekimball's avatar

For heaven's sake. And Trump got backing from pharmaceutical companies like everyone else did (as he admits). That does not necessarily mean they are doing their bidding. Trump had the backing of Elon Musk--apparently not anymore. I guess one has to have faith in SOMEONE. I believe JD Vance is a good guy or are you suggesting he had Charlie killed? Or everything he does has an ulterior motive? They aren't really friends? I have faith in JD and in Trump for now and lots of people back people for different reasons. I just can't think that indicates corruption. I believe he backed Ron DeSantis for a while. I don't know. I just can't be that cynical.

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Julia Pomeroy's avatar

I am happy to inform you, I am neither American nor do I live in America and so a lot of what you wrote went right over my head, but I am sure you are now feeling a lot better.

Sorry, bit I read very little and I do doubt that 'heaven' cares one way or the other.

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Lekimball's avatar

Who is talking about heaven? And if you aren't from America and don't know what I'm talking about, why are you throwing shade at JD Vance for being supported by Thiel? And you read very little, but have strong opinions that JD Vance is bought off and corrupt? All seems strange. Where are you from then? And why do you have strong opinions like this if you aren't from here, aren't informed, etc?

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Julia Pomeroy's avatar

Unbelievable you gained all that information from what I wrote - incroyable!

"And you read very little" - now where did I say that? Ah yes, that was with reference to that which you had written- I couldn't be bothered to read it all.

As for 'heaven' - you mentioned it, I just picked up on it. You're not very good at reading what you have written, are you?

Having read a great deal of information from people I trust, and having listened to them also, I am perfectly capable of forming an opinion, you might not like it but, I have zero desire to be like you or espouse your opinions and, as long as I draw breath, I refuse to give in to the sort of person you are conveying about yourself.

By the way I have been a follower of Jesus Christ of Nazareth for virtually 50 years and, as a result, I have read His Word from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21 many, many times. Have you?

As you can see, I am fully informed. I don't have to either live in America, or be American to pass an opinion, especially when it is about my brother in Christ.

Where I am not from might well be relevant, but where I am from is completely irrelevant, capisch?

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Lekimball's avatar

I said for heaven's sake. It's a manner of speech, nothing more. You have a right to your opinions. Why would you get on here and criticize me for things you know little about. Or criticize JD Vance who I doubt you know much about --and then you're upset when I comment back. And no, if you don't live here, you likely know little about it. Hard to imagine my being an expert on places I don't live. And then after being critical, you behave in ways that are very unChristian by attacking me personally instead of sticking to issues. At any rate, have at it. I'm done talking to you.

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Brian Terry's avatar

Thank you Dr. Malone, yours is one of the best posts that I have read on this and something that I needed to hear this morning.

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Bonnie Aitken's avatar

I too, told my husband this seems like a Martin Luther King level event made to change the direction of a movement. We must preserve free speech and civility to one another. Someone or thing is trying desperately to stop what is our American dream. They won't succeed. Thank you for your analysis and words of wisdom, as usual, spot on.

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Richard Lawson's avatar

This event reminds me of the elimination of Malcolm X when he was becoming a force for the future.

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ComeQuicklyLord's avatar

If my memory serves me, he was eliminated by his own people—I’ve been wrong before.

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Larry Cox's avatar

His death was almost certainly ordered by someone in government. A member of the Nation of Islam possibly fired the gun, but that does not mean his group or its leaders ordered it done. He was no longer affiliated with NOI at the time of his death. According to interviews before his death, however, he believed that someone in NOI wanted to kill him. Just one of many killings that have never been fully solved.

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Julia Pomeroy's avatar

Not a 'force' that was needed though, as he preached violence.

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KaiteeO's avatar

They want to start a civil war. And a racial war. Let’s not play.

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American Citizen's avatar

What do you suggest?

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Vivian Evans's avatar

I am too sad and upset to write something coherent - all I'll say is that I am utterly shocked by the blatant inhumanity coming from the Left after Charlie Kirk's assassination, and worse, the one shown by those who sat near poor Irina and did nothing, not even get up and ask if she was ok.

What terrible state our countries are in.

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Debra Nolasco's avatar

I agree completely, Vivian. It is precisely what I have been saying for the last couple of days.

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Karen Baetz's avatar

I, too, felt the Crowder post was too "perfect". Almost predictable. I will sit. I will wait. I will pray ceaselessly.

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Teri Anglim's avatar

Dr. Malone - I watched the Senate hearing from beginning to end. You could not have done a better job expressing yourself - calm, clear, measured, and full of knowledge. I've been with you throughout the past 5 years. You have no idea what a breath of fresh air you have been for thousands. As a former professor of American Political Thought, I found Charlie Kirk a fortunate addition to setting people straight on what has been happening in our country - even before the covid debacle.

I am unable to relate to most former friends who have chosen to close their minds and be dragged into the NPR, BBC, Maddow, CNN propaganda. They are the group of baby boomers that have lost their minds: they are not able to do their own thinking anymore. I can visualize them all at age 65 or more picking up pitchforks and charging onward. It's very embarrassing as well as alarming to me. Rather that using their brains, they were the first in line to get the jab - along with 9 or so more. I was scoffed at for seeking information and that is whem I found you on some small podcast run by two younger guys. Then you were on Darkhorse.

Fauci and his misleading words was their idol. As time went by, TWO had clots in their lungs and would not consider it to be caused by anything but age. TWO had strokes out of the clear blue.

As disheartened as I am over this all consuming hatred that exudes from them and others, I agree that people should do nothing.................for now. Let the brainwashed cult have its temper tantrums and worse and see what develops from restraint and calm rhetoric on the part of the sane.

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VictorDianne Watson's avatar

Wise words. It was my thought as well heard that this was another transgender murder. Too neat! It may turn out that it is that, but keeping an open mind is important, as you said. As I’ve said before America has lost a brilliant warrior. We cannot afford to lose young men like him. I am praying for his family, but I am praying for Charlie Kirk’s America, too. God bless him. 🙏

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MrsMc's avatar

thank you for sharing this. Good advice. I agree about MLK jr comparison. Media refers to Charlie as an "activist" and they say/write it in a way that makes him sound somehow mean or threatening, when in fact he had a very calm, pleasant, engaging manner along with his vast knowledge of facts and detail. My prayers are with Charlie in heaven, his family and his friends like you who have been in harms way for speaking truth, that you receive God's peace and comfort and protection.

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James Goodrich's avatar

My take on Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

The assertion "without faith you can't have hope" is supported by religious interpretations, particularly in Christianity and Islam, where faith (belief and trust) is seen as the foundation that gives substance and grounding to hope (the positive expectation of future good). For example, the Bible defines faith as "the substance of things hoped for" (Hebrews 11:1), illustrating that hope is a natural outcome of faith. In Islam, the Quran states that despair of God's mercy comes from a lack of faith. 

Faith as the Foundation for Hope 

• Hebrews 11:1
is a key biblical passage defining faith as "the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen". This means that faith is the very thing that makes hope tangible and real, giving it its substance. 




• Complementary Concepts:
In this religious context, faith and hope are not separate ideas but complementary forces. Faith looks to the past and present, grounded in belief and trust in God's promises, while hope looks to the future, fueled by that same faith. 




• A Child and an Amusement Park Analogy:
The analogy of a child waiting for an amusement park visit illustrates this relationship. The child's belief in their parent's promise is faith, while their joyful anticipation and excitement are hope. Without the child's faith, the hope wouldn't exist.




As we saw with Covid, totalitarian communism has to crush all faith, all hope, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to assemble, freedom of all kinds, this is the basis of communism. They had to kill our faith and our hope for the future, so they assassinated Charlie Kirk, this brilliant young man who treasured free speech and open debate with people that disagreed with him. He was a man of faith and was always respectful. In nearly every way Charlie was the future. Over 3500 times Charlie traveled behind enemy lines onto college campuses to try to sway the young away from evil and see the truth. These institutions have been taken over and run by the communist left for decades. When they shot him in the neck, they were trying to kill our future, our faith and our hope. Charlie was a person that would continue to fight for our God given freedoms long after we all are gone, the radical communists ended that yesterday.

“The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it”. This quote is widely attributed to George Orwell’s novel 1984.

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Walker Cathy's avatar

The Islamic(Muslim) faith does not align with Christian faith. There is also a spiritual war going on in this world. Be aware of the provocation and violence promoted by Muslims. “Kill the infidels” is what they are taught. Muslim immigration around the world is promoting this chaos along with Sharia Law. Charlie’s FAITH and HOPE was based on Jesus’s salvation, not Mohammed.

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James Goodrich's avatar

All I said was faith and hope is mentioned in the Quran.

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Larry Cox's avatar

Criminals often hide behind religious labels. I think Mohammad would have been as outraged by the actions of his violent "followers" as Jesus would have been at the violence committed by many of his "followers."

It is true, though, that the Arab world was culturally different than Europe. And the attempt to bring an Abrahamic faith to the Arabs (through Mohammad) may have been badly flawed. The truth of how exactly this was done is hidden from us, just as the exact truth of what Jesus did in and around Jerusalem 600 years earlier is hidden from us. We might say, however, that the Jesus operation was more successful.

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American Citizen's avatar

Absolutely correct...The Truth Shall Set You Free...which is why Truth is so dangerous to the left/devil.

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Annette's avatar

See Bret Weinstein’s interview with the air force pilot who they mistakenly thought flew helicopter into airplane. He/Now a she, is transgender, extremely smart, respectful, and capable of all duties, and was not guilty. The point is this person is and was highly trained in very sophisticated equipment then and now. I however, agree that the gun in the woods found today may be a false flag planted by an anti-American.

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Margaret Allison's avatar

Thanks, Dr. Malone! The truth will be known. We don’t need to play into their narrative! Good advice. Prayers for his family and the USA today! Incidentally, my niece was brutally murdered 29 years ago on this date 1996. Justice was done except he is in prison and parole comes up from time to time! The last time he opted not to request parole. Her family let the courts settle the situation rather than put the grandparents through a trial!

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Debra Nolasco's avatar

I am so sorry for your family's tragic loss, Margaret

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Margaret Allison's avatar

Thank you Debra!

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Swabbie Robbie's avatar

I am brought back to the political assassinations of the 1960s as well, starting in grade school when we were told of the assassination of President Kennedy and called into an assembly to watch the coverage. Then, Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy. Charlie Kirk is on the same level of impact for me.

I immediately thought of the words of Bob Marley in his "Redemption Song":

How long shall they kill our prophets

While we stand aside and look? Ooh

Some say it's just a part of it

We've got to fulfill the book

Won't you help to sing

These songs of freedom?

'Cause all I ever have

Redemption songs

And I thought of Rudyard Kipling's Poem IF, which I though of as being in the spirit of the message

Charlie Kirk was teaching:

If you can keep your head when all about you

Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;

If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,

But make allowance for their doubting too:

If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,

Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,

Or being hated don't give way to hating,

And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream---and not make dreams your master;

If you can think---and not make thoughts your aim,

If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

And treat those two impostors just the same:.

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken

Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,

And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings

And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,

And lose, and start again at your beginnings,

And never breathe a word about your loss:

If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew

To serve your turn long after they are gone,

And so hold on when there is nothing in you

Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,

Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,

If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,

If all men count with you, but none too much:

If you can fill the unforgiving minute

With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,

Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,

And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!

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Ana González's avatar

The poem IF, was the first poem that I memorized in Jr. High school.

It has remained my favorite poem my entire life.

I requested of my grandchildren to memorize it and recite it to me as their gift 🎁 to me.

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American Citizen's avatar

Well stated...and what are we to believe? The government narrative says Oswald single handedly killed JFK. Evidence and time says otherwise. What do we really know about the shooter at Butler? Where is the Truth in media and government? Will we ever learn the truth about the assassin of Charlie? We will be fed a narrative, and how do we really learn the truth? Fortunately with citizen journalists, we may.

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Swabbie Robbie's avatar

As with the Kennedys and MLK and with the Butler PA shooters, the killer of Charlie Kirk will probably end up being a patsy.

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Jane Tracy's avatar

May he rest peacefully in the arms of the Lord 🙏

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arrotsevni's avatar

Act rationally. Wait for the facts to emerge. Good advice!!

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