Again, I want to thank you for this very detailed coverage of how dangerous these labs are and how little we have learned from COVID. It is very, very disturbing to me
My daughter who is in her 40s and a friend who is in her early 70s, have suffered from Lyme Disease for 10+ years. Their suffering caused me to read the book by Kris Newby, "Bitten: The Secret History of Lyme Disease and Biological Weapons." I read that book over 12 years ago. That was BEFORE the Pandemic hit, so I was convinced from Day One that SARS-CoV-2 was a biological weapon.
Interestingly enough, it was research done by Steve Hilton and revealed by him on Fox News that affirmed my belief. And then I listened to a British doctor who also confirmed my belief.
Then I was fortunate to come across Dr. Malone who has cemented to me the absolute danger and idiocy of biological weapons research.
My daughter's life will never be the same. My friend is dying from the effects of Lyme. Can't we stop this insanity?
Thank you, Dr. Malone, for your constant warnings. Hopefully you can scream loudly from your position now! Please.
After reading all the findings and conclusions, my conclusion is grim. If there can be even a little truth found and acted on, by the time that happens the results from the cover-ups are devastating. No integrity or courage to do what's right = blatant rationalization(rational lies ) and lying. The only strategy that can have any effect is the constant pounding on the door of the obvious. Your hand must be bloody.
I always wonder what these 'scientists' eat themselves. The ones that make GMO plants and animals, the ones that make glyposate and other 'garden poisons', the ones that grow the genetically altered plants and animals. Do they eat what they made, sprayed, grow? Sometimes we think machines can't reason, but can these humans reason? Only a few days ago I read an article by a fervent glyposate-hater, who confessed to have the product in his garage to spray his driveway. I also know people who wash cans, and they drink from plastic throwaway cups. Maybe the glyposate has already destroyed their brain cells.
Thank you for sharing your update and recommendations as related the Spanish swine fever outbreak.
Surely timely identification of these types of incidents represents a critical need. First to identify a threat. Next to design and develop the response. Finally to go back and determine the causes of the problem.
From the covid and the swine flu perspectives, we seem to be lacking at all levels.
To me, you have well established the need for an effective system. Next is estabishing the need for the system you propose. One assumes it is technologically feasible. From there it seems to come down to costs and available moneys.
Since you've most adequately documented the need, one suspects there will be additional proposals.
We, those potentially impacted by the psthogens, hope you will have successfully generated the attention and action these issues call for.
Have never understood why we abandoned Plum Island rather than modernizing it for human and animal pathogen research. Islands are the perfect location for,this,kind of activity and all such studies should be restricted to them
Thank youThank you Dr Malone. The main difference is obviously that the COVID virus had massive global consequences in death, disease, economic destruction, and the destruction of liberty.
China, the WHO, and to some extent certainly the US are more then happy to propagate the "Its a flu" line regarding COVID. It is not, and many many studies show extensive and ongoing debilitating COVID harms. The spike, in the vaccine or the virus, is a harmful pathogen. It will be at least 5 more years to quantify the extent of the viral harm and the vaccine harms.
Yet due to the "Its like a flu" mantra, (China literally said this) there is no push for liability for the creation of the Man made GOF virus, and no real investigation into how the "leak" occurred. Will there ever be???
Thank you. and I tend to agree. Transparency in the US is difficult, in China, not possible.
You once praised a post of mine where I called for P.S.Ds. (Presidential Sponsored Debates) Where real dialogue and rational debate is held on key issues. In your current position you may be able to present this idea to the President via Kennedy. They could be named in honor of Charlie Kirk , and through modern media, X, VPNs etc, potentially reach billions. Real rational debate has been willfully shut down, and is desperately needed. Quarterly would be ideal. All the Best...
So reading this, a repeat of the pattern, of China, Ukraine, Plum Island NY, with I am sure a lot of other instances before I was born (maybe going back to Geo Washington at Morristown NJ)……and the emergence of AI, Dr Malone you beg the question….are you working in developing an institutional/corporate/university initiative to do exactly this? I can see any efforts to do this quickly hidden from average citizen knowledge by Government cloak of ‘national security’ to restrict from public to a ‘need-to-know’ basis….
One further line of thought. The merits of coming up with a way of transforning culprits into heros.
While Country Zs lab appears to be the source of a dangerous biosecurity breach, can their immediate identification, reporting and institution of remedial measures be praised? Can their sharing to aid all in assessing their own operations and instituting remedial measures be praised?
I use to think I was a go-getter in the way of 'New'...I was very interested in the brain, liked sciency(sp?) subjects, thought I would end up in psychology. My math skills seemed not to want to co-operate.
I also was not subject to fear of change. Young are known to take chances, of course, but even in my 40s I felt change could create for the better. Sometime in my late 50s and 60s things shifted. I sensed the world was speeding up, that life had less control. I've never really liked roller coasters and that's how it felt, a building out of control Tempest Trek. I was slow to move over to sometimes reading on a tablet. By mid 2019 I was forced by work to get a cell phone (interesting how 'convenience' is the twin of these contraptions)
Covid took those whisperings of concern in me and flipped my switch. I no longer rush toward change. I'd like things to slow down, have more intent, see the beauty in stability and preservation. Warm, cozy houses of brick and log instead of concrete bunkers.
I don't want to imply change is bad, but as I visualized above, change has a non-human doppleganger.
I know where I am going with this, but it's hard to get down in words.
AI is here, it won't go back in its box (Pandora keeps inventing them). I hope (throwing all to positive thinking) the True and Moral beings, as I see Dr. Malone is, can keep a lid on where this takes the future.
After a recent article that the US is going to import GMO pork meat from Canada, now this - is it safe to eat pork anymore? My dog got sick from chicken a couple years ago, so we have barely eaten that these last years. I have not eaten red meat since the mad cow disease. Seems like soon we will have to go vegetarian altogether. Tried lamb, but not fond of it.
Pork isn't any safer or more nutritious than beef if bought in a regular grocery store. All are penned, fed poisoned grains and in some cases, plastic infested garbage, + cruelty slaughtered. I don't even trust the "Organic" there. I switched to an online seller a few years ago.
Check out Butcher Box if you are interested. They are 'Third-Party Certified, understanding the connections between farmers, animals, the planet, our team, and our members.'
While improved and transparent analysis of bio leaks is probably needed and is certainly welcome, shouldn't the message from both Covid and the Swine Flu outbreaks be the need for a change in the opportunity for collusion between government and the bio-lab stakeholders? Without the implicit and possibly explicit collusion, the government supported confounding information along with the avoidable effects wouldn't have happened. We know how great the Covid effects have been and continue to be. Without addressing the foundational collusion, the next event will still be obscured despite improved ground level analysis ... that's what governments do when caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
When hundreds of millions, or a billion, people are killed by a "non-lab leak" accident, then people will take these biohazards seriously. Until then we will just see more lame excuses for exposing animals and humans to unsafe biological experiments
I am not at all certain we are not going to that level for the combined spike harms. Global all cause mortality is likely still elevated over pre-COVID.
Again, I want to thank you for this very detailed coverage of how dangerous these labs are and how little we have learned from COVID. It is very, very disturbing to me
My daughter who is in her 40s and a friend who is in her early 70s, have suffered from Lyme Disease for 10+ years. Their suffering caused me to read the book by Kris Newby, "Bitten: The Secret History of Lyme Disease and Biological Weapons." I read that book over 12 years ago. That was BEFORE the Pandemic hit, so I was convinced from Day One that SARS-CoV-2 was a biological weapon.
Interestingly enough, it was research done by Steve Hilton and revealed by him on Fox News that affirmed my belief. And then I listened to a British doctor who also confirmed my belief.
Then I was fortunate to come across Dr. Malone who has cemented to me the absolute danger and idiocy of biological weapons research.
My daughter's life will never be the same. My friend is dying from the effects of Lyme. Can't we stop this insanity?
Thank you, Dr. Malone, for your constant warnings. Hopefully you can scream loudly from your position now! Please.
I think I will apply the approach to that issue and see what the ai comes up with.
After reading all the findings and conclusions, my conclusion is grim. If there can be even a little truth found and acted on, by the time that happens the results from the cover-ups are devastating. No integrity or courage to do what's right = blatant rationalization(rational lies ) and lying. The only strategy that can have any effect is the constant pounding on the door of the obvious. Your hand must be bloody.
I always wonder what these 'scientists' eat themselves. The ones that make GMO plants and animals, the ones that make glyposate and other 'garden poisons', the ones that grow the genetically altered plants and animals. Do they eat what they made, sprayed, grow? Sometimes we think machines can't reason, but can these humans reason? Only a few days ago I read an article by a fervent glyposate-hater, who confessed to have the product in his garage to spray his driveway. I also know people who wash cans, and they drink from plastic throwaway cups. Maybe the glyposate has already destroyed their brain cells.
I have 1 (scientist, that is) living across the street. If I ever see him again, I'll ask. No fear!!!
Thank you for sharing your update and recommendations as related the Spanish swine fever outbreak.
Surely timely identification of these types of incidents represents a critical need. First to identify a threat. Next to design and develop the response. Finally to go back and determine the causes of the problem.
From the covid and the swine flu perspectives, we seem to be lacking at all levels.
To me, you have well established the need for an effective system. Next is estabishing the need for the system you propose. One assumes it is technologically feasible. From there it seems to come down to costs and available moneys.
Since you've most adequately documented the need, one suspects there will be additional proposals.
We, those potentially impacted by the psthogens, hope you will have successfully generated the attention and action these issues call for.
You are much appreciated!
Have never understood why we abandoned Plum Island rather than modernizing it for human and animal pathogen research. Islands are the perfect location for,this,kind of activity and all such studies should be restricted to them
Proximity to population centers
Yeah but understand the idea was to move this work to Manhattan Kan.which is a population center and university locale. Would think an island safer
Makes sense to me. Who wants it close to population centers except maybe the scientists????
Oxymoron= Transparency in Biological Security
Thank youThank you Dr Malone. The main difference is obviously that the COVID virus had massive global consequences in death, disease, economic destruction, and the destruction of liberty.
China, the WHO, and to some extent certainly the US are more then happy to propagate the "Its a flu" line regarding COVID. It is not, and many many studies show extensive and ongoing debilitating COVID harms. The spike, in the vaccine or the virus, is a harmful pathogen. It will be at least 5 more years to quantify the extent of the viral harm and the vaccine harms.
Yet due to the "Its like a flu" mantra, (China literally said this) there is no push for liability for the creation of the Man made GOF virus, and no real investigation into how the "leak" occurred. Will there ever be???
probably not
Thank you. and I tend to agree. Transparency in the US is difficult, in China, not possible.
You once praised a post of mine where I called for P.S.Ds. (Presidential Sponsored Debates) Where real dialogue and rational debate is held on key issues. In your current position you may be able to present this idea to the President via Kennedy. They could be named in honor of Charlie Kirk , and through modern media, X, VPNs etc, potentially reach billions. Real rational debate has been willfully shut down, and is desperately needed. Quarterly would be ideal. All the Best...
So reading this, a repeat of the pattern, of China, Ukraine, Plum Island NY, with I am sure a lot of other instances before I was born (maybe going back to Geo Washington at Morristown NJ)……and the emergence of AI, Dr Malone you beg the question….are you working in developing an institutional/corporate/university initiative to do exactly this? I can see any efforts to do this quickly hidden from average citizen knowledge by Government cloak of ‘national security’ to restrict from public to a ‘need-to-know’ basis….
Yes. Within the USG
This has Bill Gates written all over it
“One health”.
Date 4/22 Gates presented his GERM Team proposal, to prevent the next pandemic.
Good ole' Billy!!
One further line of thought. The merits of coming up with a way of transforning culprits into heros.
While Country Zs lab appears to be the source of a dangerous biosecurity breach, can their immediate identification, reporting and institution of remedial measures be praised? Can their sharing to aid all in assessing their own operations and instituting remedial measures be praised?
I think I see your approach, Jean. Carrot vs. Stick?!
I use to think I was a go-getter in the way of 'New'...I was very interested in the brain, liked sciency(sp?) subjects, thought I would end up in psychology. My math skills seemed not to want to co-operate.
I also was not subject to fear of change. Young are known to take chances, of course, but even in my 40s I felt change could create for the better. Sometime in my late 50s and 60s things shifted. I sensed the world was speeding up, that life had less control. I've never really liked roller coasters and that's how it felt, a building out of control Tempest Trek. I was slow to move over to sometimes reading on a tablet. By mid 2019 I was forced by work to get a cell phone (interesting how 'convenience' is the twin of these contraptions)
Covid took those whisperings of concern in me and flipped my switch. I no longer rush toward change. I'd like things to slow down, have more intent, see the beauty in stability and preservation. Warm, cozy houses of brick and log instead of concrete bunkers.
I don't want to imply change is bad, but as I visualized above, change has a non-human doppleganger.
I know where I am going with this, but it's hard to get down in words.
AI is here, it won't go back in its box (Pandora keeps inventing them). I hope (throwing all to positive thinking) the True and Moral beings, as I see Dr. Malone is, can keep a lid on where this takes the future.
After a recent article that the US is going to import GMO pork meat from Canada, now this - is it safe to eat pork anymore? My dog got sick from chicken a couple years ago, so we have barely eaten that these last years. I have not eaten red meat since the mad cow disease. Seems like soon we will have to go vegetarian altogether. Tried lamb, but not fond of it.
Pork isn't any safer or more nutritious than beef if bought in a regular grocery store. All are penned, fed poisoned grains and in some cases, plastic infested garbage, + cruelty slaughtered. I don't even trust the "Organic" there. I switched to an online seller a few years ago.
Check out Butcher Box if you are interested. They are 'Third-Party Certified, understanding the connections between farmers, animals, the planet, our team, and our members.'
https://www.butcherbox.com/about-us
While improved and transparent analysis of bio leaks is probably needed and is certainly welcome, shouldn't the message from both Covid and the Swine Flu outbreaks be the need for a change in the opportunity for collusion between government and the bio-lab stakeholders? Without the implicit and possibly explicit collusion, the government supported confounding information along with the avoidable effects wouldn't have happened. We know how great the Covid effects have been and continue to be. Without addressing the foundational collusion, the next event will still be obscured despite improved ground level analysis ... that's what governments do when caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
When hundreds of millions, or a billion, people are killed by a "non-lab leak" accident, then people will take these biohazards seriously. Until then we will just see more lame excuses for exposing animals and humans to unsafe biological experiments
I am not at all certain we are not going to that level for the combined spike harms. Global all cause mortality is likely still elevated over pre-COVID.