There is an Ebola outbreak in eastern Congo. People are dying. The official account is accurate and incomplete, and the missing parts are the ones that explain everything.
Indonesia, Ukraine and Congo all rich in mineral resources. Fighting over who will own them is on going in Ukraine and the Congo. Indonesia was settled years ago against the wishes of JFK and the CIA run by John Dulles settled it for the Rockefeller Foundation and Freeport Mc Moran by electing a puppet president in Indonesia. . Caused and effect is never identified and corrected. Band-Aid solutions apply.
EBOLA shock horror is true , the hype is not same old same old climate is changing True the hype is Tosh. Do our media and leaders think we are dimmer than the proverbial 2 short planks. Find the OFF button on your TV and avoid any illegals off small boats if you live in UK as you have no idea who they are and where they come from.
Lawdy, been doing some quick reading and all that needs to happen now is for this strain (any strain?) to mutate sufficiently to become a respiratory virus/infection.
One reason many experts think this is less likely is that Ebola’s current biology works against widespread respiratory transmission:
-Patients usually become very sick quickly,
-Transmission tends to occur late in illness,
-Severe disease limits mobility and social mixing.
Yes, Ebola is an RNA virus and can mutate.
No evidence shows it is close to becoming a highly transmissible airborne respiratory virus.
Most virologists consider that transformation is biologically possible in principle but not easy or likely based on what we currently know.
During the large Western African Ebola virus epidemic outbreak, researchers observed adaptive mutations emerging during sustained human-to-human transmission. But despite extensive spread, Ebola did not evolve into a highly contagious respiratory pathogen.
Maybe we should lock up Fauci so he does not decide to do tests on the virus to make it respiratory transmisable (spelling ?) and give some lab in Wuhan a portion of his millions of $ to do the lab work.
I had the recent hantavirus infections in mind when I learned about this current Ebola outbreak - the third known outbreak of this particular strain. To my knowledge, the Andes strain is the only known respiratory hantavirus strain - how did that strain make the jump from inhalation of rodent feces to being transmissible from person2person via breathing? Granted, it’s hard, requires prolonged contact, but we know several folk on that ill fated cruise become infected, including crew.
Seems like the burial practices, cleansing rituals AND the opposition to treatment and medical/health intervention could provide a sufficient breeding ground. At the moment I’ve read you’ve got to be pretty symptomatic to be infectious which aids in isolation and spreading. But what happens when (yes, IF) a respiratory vector gets in the mix — I’m thinking there’s enough crazies in that part of the world that would see the infected as a nice weapon of terror. I’m surprised that hasn’t been tried already (maybe it has 🤷♀️)
Congo - maybe lots of Africa - are resource RICH. Sad their governments are so weak (or corrupt?)- probably meddled in for centuries for exploitative reasons. I've had close ties with Covenant church which has had a decades long outreach to DRC, since at least 50's; many trips w/valiant ministries there (water, education...). One friend's daughter went 20yrs ago, met a young man who had been orphaned age 10/walked miles a day for water caring for his younger sister. Thank you for reliable - if necessarily uncertain - information. Nations SHOULD have sovereignty over their resources, but they need a government capable of assuming its primary role to SECURE safety. The history of the world is 'tribes' & peoples warring over development and control of resources.
Thank you for helping us to become aware of the actual state of these affairs. Frankly it comes off as very ugly in all too many aspects.
The draw for involvements is the minerals. The apparent afflicted see themselves as having no trustworthy friends. Intervention might be characterized as like stomping a wasp nest to help the wasps. A dangerous and likely unappreciated strategy.
I am sorry to learn about our failure here. We created the circumstances for our failure. In that we've been broadcasting that we can't save the world and won't be pursuing such ends - one supposes its a matter of unfortunate timing. It would have helped to have timely so advised the peoples we contracted to help if needed.
So, bottom line, this ebola affair is ugly. One hopes all will get through it with as little lasting disaster as humanly possible. That all, at a minimum, can use this to develop viable solutions.
Again, thank you for preparing us for the time the details may become general knowledge and disputes.
This information is sorely needed for many reasons. The constant fighting between rogue rebels and corrupt governing is slowly seeping into our part of the world. Between the usual suspects of greed, anger and revenge sits the other giant of mineral riches which is a mighty conflict, that the U.S. is and has been a party to. This is the arena of good versus evil. The movie "Emerald Forest" directed by John Boorman is based on a true story from years ago, a telling drama of good and evil.
Indonesia, Ukraine and Congo all rich in mineral resources. Fighting over who will own them is on going in Ukraine and the Congo. Indonesia was settled years ago against the wishes of JFK and the CIA run by John Dulles settled it for the Rockefeller Foundation and Freeport Mc Moran by electing a puppet president in Indonesia. . Caused and effect is never identified and corrected. Band-Aid solutions apply.
EBOLA shock horror is true , the hype is not same old same old climate is changing True the hype is Tosh. Do our media and leaders think we are dimmer than the proverbial 2 short planks. Find the OFF button on your TV and avoid any illegals off small boats if you live in UK as you have no idea who they are and where they come from.
Lord have mercy.
Lawdy, been doing some quick reading and all that needs to happen now is for this strain (any strain?) to mutate sufficiently to become a respiratory virus/infection.
One reason many experts think this is less likely is that Ebola’s current biology works against widespread respiratory transmission:
-Patients usually become very sick quickly,
-Transmission tends to occur late in illness,
-Severe disease limits mobility and social mixing.
Yes, Ebola is an RNA virus and can mutate.
No evidence shows it is close to becoming a highly transmissible airborne respiratory virus.
Most virologists consider that transformation is biologically possible in principle but not easy or likely based on what we currently know.
During the large Western African Ebola virus epidemic outbreak, researchers observed adaptive mutations emerging during sustained human-to-human transmission. But despite extensive spread, Ebola did not evolve into a highly contagious respiratory pathogen.
Maybe we should lock up Fauci so he does not decide to do tests on the virus to make it respiratory transmisable (spelling ?) and give some lab in Wuhan a portion of his millions of $ to do the lab work.
Yes; but…
I had the recent hantavirus infections in mind when I learned about this current Ebola outbreak - the third known outbreak of this particular strain. To my knowledge, the Andes strain is the only known respiratory hantavirus strain - how did that strain make the jump from inhalation of rodent feces to being transmissible from person2person via breathing? Granted, it’s hard, requires prolonged contact, but we know several folk on that ill fated cruise become infected, including crew.
Seems like the burial practices, cleansing rituals AND the opposition to treatment and medical/health intervention could provide a sufficient breeding ground. At the moment I’ve read you’ve got to be pretty symptomatic to be infectious which aids in isolation and spreading. But what happens when (yes, IF) a respiratory vector gets in the mix — I’m thinking there’s enough crazies in that part of the world that would see the infected as a nice weapon of terror. I’m surprised that hasn’t been tried already (maybe it has 🤷♀️)
Congo - maybe lots of Africa - are resource RICH. Sad their governments are so weak (or corrupt?)- probably meddled in for centuries for exploitative reasons. I've had close ties with Covenant church which has had a decades long outreach to DRC, since at least 50's; many trips w/valiant ministries there (water, education...). One friend's daughter went 20yrs ago, met a young man who had been orphaned age 10/walked miles a day for water caring for his younger sister. Thank you for reliable - if necessarily uncertain - information. Nations SHOULD have sovereignty over their resources, but they need a government capable of assuming its primary role to SECURE safety. The history of the world is 'tribes' & peoples warring over development and control of resources.
Thank you for helping us to become aware of the actual state of these affairs. Frankly it comes off as very ugly in all too many aspects.
The draw for involvements is the minerals. The apparent afflicted see themselves as having no trustworthy friends. Intervention might be characterized as like stomping a wasp nest to help the wasps. A dangerous and likely unappreciated strategy.
I am sorry to learn about our failure here. We created the circumstances for our failure. In that we've been broadcasting that we can't save the world and won't be pursuing such ends - one supposes its a matter of unfortunate timing. It would have helped to have timely so advised the peoples we contracted to help if needed.
So, bottom line, this ebola affair is ugly. One hopes all will get through it with as little lasting disaster as humanly possible. That all, at a minimum, can use this to develop viable solutions.
Again, thank you for preparing us for the time the details may become general knowledge and disputes.
I remember an excellent book by Robert Preston years ago called The Hot Zone. It introduced me to these filoviruses and was a good read . 😊
This information is sorely needed for many reasons. The constant fighting between rogue rebels and corrupt governing is slowly seeping into our part of the world. Between the usual suspects of greed, anger and revenge sits the other giant of mineral riches which is a mighty conflict, that the U.S. is and has been a party to. This is the arena of good versus evil. The movie "Emerald Forest" directed by John Boorman is based on a true story from years ago, a telling drama of good and evil.