I love Curative Bay products and the skin care has done wonders for me. Based on that I ordered the nasal cleanser as soon as it was available. Love it also. I have no medical background but at 82, I try to avoid prescription meds as much as possible!
My wife and I have been using Xlear in this way for about 5 years when we travel or are out in crowds. I have not gotten anything except Covid once since doing this. My wife has maybe been mildly sick once with a respiratory thing and also gotten Covid. However, neither of us got it from the other when we had it, which was amazing. Neither of us is vaxxed and we treated with IVM & HQ that worked great. I can't be sure but it seems to work.
I’m a big fan of Xlear as well. When I use it daily it helps me with allergies and illness prevention. I am curious about the Curative Bay product though as well. May try it some time.
Another useful nasal care product is Snoot. It needs to be combined fresh because the chlorine dioxide vaporizes with time but it is effective and has a pleasant cinnamon/clove aroma.
I purchased the large 8 oz size of their chlorine dioxide and mix up a new batch every 10 days or so. A fairly large upfront cost, but it has lasted over a year.
On your advice, I looked into Curativa. I love the nasal spray. I use it every day. I stopped using fluticosone. Thank you. Between the spray and Dr. Zelenko's OTC protocol, I rarely catch a cold. I am 70. Done taking any vaccines for anything.
Zelenko Protocol. Quercetin 500 mg, Vit C 1000 mg, Vit D 5000 units and Zinc 50 mg (or 25 mg - I was cutting the 50 mg tablets in half, but got tired of it and just take the whole tablet). This was his OTC prophylaxis against Covid 19. (You can also substitute EGCg for the Quercetin.) It's an antiviral combo that minimizes mRNA viruses because it takes Zn into the cell, which thwarts the action of RdRp (RNA dependent RNA polymerase), which thwarts RNA from replicating.
As a special ed teacher, K-2, I have kids sneezing and coughing on me all day long and many times, they are not covered and I get showered with spital on my face, while I'm in mid-sentence! It's great :( I use a sovereign silver nasal spray, at least 2x a day. I also nebulize with it when I feel something coming on. Its working well.
Good marketing. Buy it fresh when you need it! HOCl is made by electrolysis — passing an electric current through a salt water solution. The core chemistry is surprisingly simple, but the engineering details are what separate a good product from a bottle of weak saltwater.
That's it. Salt, water, and electricity in the right arrangement gives you hypochlorous acid.
Membrane cell electrolysis (the cleanest way)
This is the modern standard for pharmaceutical/medical-grade HOCl. A specialized ion-exchange membrane sits between the electrodes. It allows sodium ions to pass but keeps the chlorine and hydroxide streams mostly separate. This lets you pull off the HOCl at a controlled, acidic pH (roughly 5–6.5), which is crucial.
HOCl is genuinely unstable — it slowly degrades back into saltwater and loses potency, especially with light, heat, or contact with organics. That's why you can't really "stockpile" it long-term and why most good setups generate it fresh or use sealed, light-protected packaging. The shelf-life question is the real practical weak point, not the chemistry itself.
I hope that is correct. I went to the site and they do not list the ingredients of the nasal spray. I do not know how they stabilize the formula. I also found on Amazon many products that are being marketed with the HOCL being the saving grace. Latest fad? It is my understanding that the FDA looks at the stability documents that the manufacturer provides and agrees or disagrees. Considering that two weeks ago they approved Moderna's RNA flu vaccine with a HIGH ADVERSE SIDE EFFECT PROFILE and today reversed the decision does not give me great faith in their objective decision making. FDA is a revolving door for those who want to improve their income and life style and ignore the decisions that they make that are detrimental to the general public since their goal is self centered. Gottlieb comes to mind who is on the Pfizer board. The history of bad decisions is overwhelming. Then of course there are those who embrace the terrain theory and claim that virus's do not exist and negates the need for any treatment protocols. Bottom line drives the medical paradigm and not good health decisions. What a mess we have in medicine! Big Chem drives Big Food and Big Medicine and Big Pharma are the beneficiaries and we spend twice as much on sick care than any other nation on this earth. RFK Jr. is trying to right the medical Titanic and then the mahamovie is promoting GLP-1 which should only be managed with tight medical supervision and not cavalier! I will say it again! It is a MESS and the good people in medicine that are dedicated to helping humanity are becoming unjustly criticized and are becoming targeted. I have three grandchildren that want to have a positive impact and are caring human beings. I could go on, but I have said enough.
I am innocent around the chemistry, but curious about the manufacture of HOCL: Nancy Bovee writes she brews it up in a pot at home...Mr. Braun writes that electrolysis is the process and requires careful control of concentration...Dr. Malone wrote that all us humans produce it in our bodies --do we get "farmed" for it?
During Covid I gave voice lessons over Zoom. Not ideal but I had called the University voice teachers who are my friends and mentors. They were using Zoom as well. When things started to open up I started having my students come back for in house lessons. Well I had a student that didn’t know she had COVID come to lessons and guess what. Yup I caught Covid from her. It was very mild , lasted 3 days with a residual cough. Thank heavens! Since that time I have told my students to not come to lessons if they are sick or think they are coming down with something. When I teach the student is spewing air right at me like they are blowing it at my face. You get the picture. Well most of them don’t pay attention to getting sick and coming to lessons. I have sent them home or had parents pick them up . Then I proceed to spray saline solution up my nose and gargle listerine . Then spray my music room with Lysol. I know it sounds extreme but I am almost 69 years old. I usually don’t catch anything. If I do catch something I use the Malone protocol. Which helps tremendously. I need to try this nasal spray. Every little thing we can do to not get sick. Have a great day
Dr. Lister decide that phenol was the answer to infections during surgery back in the 1880's. Then someone decided to create a mouthwash with it and call it Listerine. For 100 years, phenol has been used and has finally been determined to be carcinogenic and has been removed from Listerine. It was in Chloroseptic as well. FDA has been slow in removing dangerous drug and chemical's from the US market. My wife who died from Lymphoma used it regularly. I wonder. European FDA has been more proactive. Lavoris has Zinc but unfortunately it has Red #40. Zinc Lozenges and other similar products are also of value. Somebody should build a fire under the FDA.
We brew our own Hocl in a little pot. Very simple. It’s also the main component of most eyelid cleansers. Recently I started rubbing it onto the skin of our itchy dog. Mild but noticeable results. It’s also a great counter wipe
Having periodontal disease and a recent tooth infection, I wondered if HOCl could be used in the mouth. I looked it up, and there are studies indicating that it can be used successfully for gum disease and periodontal disease. Unfortunately Curativa Bay doesn’t make a mouth rinse. During the peak of the infection before the antibiotic kicked in to start relieving the pain, out of desperation I resorted to spraying this nasal rinse on my gums (and using colloidal silver and an herbal tea mixture). This combination did me know harm and might have speeded up the healing, but I have no way of knowing. I do wish Curativa would make a mouth rinse.
I want to emphasize the purity and safety of this product.(Curative Bay) Why people recommend other products without looking deeper into this one, surprises me.
Yes! My husband golfs (ugh) and is doing an outside home repair on siding. He is exposed to lots of chemicals in these situations, as well as being sensitive to the change of outdoor air vs air conditioning. We have the Curativa Bay spray and he uses it to stop sneezing from the air change temp. He uses it other times if I remind him... / I started being aware of any subtle nose or throat change when I was working with so many clients, and immediately started using a Homeopathic remedy to stave off a cold. It has worked remarkably well. Between using these two substances our life is much less impacted by resp. illness.
I prescribe the Curativa Bay products for my patients as well, and have observed them to be quite effective for respiratory illnesses, as well as for acne, dermatitis and skin infections, such as impetigo.
I love Curative Bay products and the skin care has done wonders for me. Based on that I ordered the nasal cleanser as soon as it was available. Love it also. I have no medical background but at 82, I try to avoid prescription meds as much as possible!
I don't have a medical background either.
I always go to God's medicine cabinet (the refrigerator) before I take any prescriptions.
My wife and I have been using Xlear in this way for about 5 years when we travel or are out in crowds. I have not gotten anything except Covid once since doing this. My wife has maybe been mildly sick once with a respiratory thing and also gotten Covid. However, neither of us got it from the other when we had it, which was amazing. Neither of us is vaxxed and we treated with IVM & HQ that worked great. I can't be sure but it seems to work.
I’m a big fan of Xlear as well. When I use it daily it helps me with allergies and illness prevention. I am curious about the Curative Bay product though as well. May try it some time.
Another useful nasal care product is Snoot. It needs to be combined fresh because the chlorine dioxide vaporizes with time but it is effective and has a pleasant cinnamon/clove aroma.
I purchased the large 8 oz size of their chlorine dioxide and mix up a new batch every 10 days or so. A fairly large upfront cost, but it has lasted over a year.
On your advice, I looked into Curativa. I love the nasal spray. I use it every day. I stopped using fluticosone. Thank you. Between the spray and Dr. Zelenko's OTC protocol, I rarely catch a cold. I am 70. Done taking any vaccines for anything.
What is Dr Z's OTC protocol?
Zelenko Protocol. Quercetin 500 mg, Vit C 1000 mg, Vit D 5000 units and Zinc 50 mg (or 25 mg - I was cutting the 50 mg tablets in half, but got tired of it and just take the whole tablet). This was his OTC prophylaxis against Covid 19. (You can also substitute EGCg for the Quercetin.) It's an antiviral combo that minimizes mRNA viruses because it takes Zn into the cell, which thwarts the action of RdRp (RNA dependent RNA polymerase), which thwarts RNA from replicating.
I saw research that says you should take a copper supplement if you are taking a regular zinc supplement. THANK YOU for your response.
As a special ed teacher, K-2, I have kids sneezing and coughing on me all day long and many times, they are not covered and I get showered with spital on my face, while I'm in mid-sentence! It's great :( I use a sovereign silver nasal spray, at least 2x a day. I also nebulize with it when I feel something coming on. Its working well.
Where do you find sovereign silver? Are you influenced by this article?
Good marketing. Buy it fresh when you need it! HOCl is made by electrolysis — passing an electric current through a salt water solution. The core chemistry is surprisingly simple, but the engineering details are what separate a good product from a bottle of weak saltwater.
That's it. Salt, water, and electricity in the right arrangement gives you hypochlorous acid.
Membrane cell electrolysis (the cleanest way)
This is the modern standard for pharmaceutical/medical-grade HOCl. A specialized ion-exchange membrane sits between the electrodes. It allows sodium ions to pass but keeps the chlorine and hydroxide streams mostly separate. This lets you pull off the HOCl at a controlled, acidic pH (roughly 5–6.5), which is crucial.
HOCl is genuinely unstable — it slowly degrades back into saltwater and loses potency, especially with light, heat, or contact with organics. That's why you can't really "stockpile" it long-term and why most good setups generate it fresh or use sealed, light-protected packaging. The shelf-life question is the real practical weak point, not the chemistry itself.
A bit outdated. Curativa bay has been granted exceptionally long shelf life specs by fda. Improved manufacturing process, ultra pure
I hope that is correct. I went to the site and they do not list the ingredients of the nasal spray. I do not know how they stabilize the formula. I also found on Amazon many products that are being marketed with the HOCL being the saving grace. Latest fad? It is my understanding that the FDA looks at the stability documents that the manufacturer provides and agrees or disagrees. Considering that two weeks ago they approved Moderna's RNA flu vaccine with a HIGH ADVERSE SIDE EFFECT PROFILE and today reversed the decision does not give me great faith in their objective decision making. FDA is a revolving door for those who want to improve their income and life style and ignore the decisions that they make that are detrimental to the general public since their goal is self centered. Gottlieb comes to mind who is on the Pfizer board. The history of bad decisions is overwhelming. Then of course there are those who embrace the terrain theory and claim that virus's do not exist and negates the need for any treatment protocols. Bottom line drives the medical paradigm and not good health decisions. What a mess we have in medicine! Big Chem drives Big Food and Big Medicine and Big Pharma are the beneficiaries and we spend twice as much on sick care than any other nation on this earth. RFK Jr. is trying to right the medical Titanic and then the mahamovie is promoting GLP-1 which should only be managed with tight medical supervision and not cavalier! I will say it again! It is a MESS and the good people in medicine that are dedicated to helping humanity are becoming unjustly criticized and are becoming targeted. I have three grandchildren that want to have a positive impact and are caring human beings. I could go on, but I have said enough.
Thank you for the chemistry lesson, It is good to know how it is made and that it is unstable. This is not something I am going to do.
Totally off topic: strongly recommend the novel "Lessons in Chemistry." A woman chemist.
I am innocent around the chemistry, but curious about the manufacture of HOCL: Nancy Bovee writes she brews it up in a pot at home...Mr. Braun writes that electrolysis is the process and requires careful control of concentration...Dr. Malone wrote that all us humans produce it in our bodies --do we get "farmed" for it?
Thank you for any help to my understanding.
Pat
Thomas, I really hope Dr. Malone addresses this, this is not what I have read concerning the shelf life, although they do caution about heat.
Time will tell who is correct.
Have you looked at the FAQs page? They list the shelf life, are they making fraudulent claims?
Properly stored and used, probably OK.
I personally inhale 5 ml of a saline NS containing hydrogen peroxyde 0,1% plus 2 drops of lugol aqueous iodine.
And I nebulizer with this too.. started during COVID.
During Covid I gave voice lessons over Zoom. Not ideal but I had called the University voice teachers who are my friends and mentors. They were using Zoom as well. When things started to open up I started having my students come back for in house lessons. Well I had a student that didn’t know she had COVID come to lessons and guess what. Yup I caught Covid from her. It was very mild , lasted 3 days with a residual cough. Thank heavens! Since that time I have told my students to not come to lessons if they are sick or think they are coming down with something. When I teach the student is spewing air right at me like they are blowing it at my face. You get the picture. Well most of them don’t pay attention to getting sick and coming to lessons. I have sent them home or had parents pick them up . Then I proceed to spray saline solution up my nose and gargle listerine . Then spray my music room with Lysol. I know it sounds extreme but I am almost 69 years old. I usually don’t catch anything. If I do catch something I use the Malone protocol. Which helps tremendously. I need to try this nasal spray. Every little thing we can do to not get sick. Have a great day
What's the Malone protocol?
Famotadine, vitamin D3 Zinc Celebrix Ivermectin . In my state Ivermectin doesn’t need a prescription.
We also like Neilmed Saline packets and rinse. https://www.neilmed.com/usa/
Nasal care products: https://shop.neilmed.com/collections/nasal-care
Also available at Amazon, Costco, etc.
Dr. Lister decide that phenol was the answer to infections during surgery back in the 1880's. Then someone decided to create a mouthwash with it and call it Listerine. For 100 years, phenol has been used and has finally been determined to be carcinogenic and has been removed from Listerine. It was in Chloroseptic as well. FDA has been slow in removing dangerous drug and chemical's from the US market. My wife who died from Lymphoma used it regularly. I wonder. European FDA has been more proactive. Lavoris has Zinc but unfortunately it has Red #40. Zinc Lozenges and other similar products are also of value. Somebody should build a fire under the FDA.
I will have to show this article to my wife, who is enjoying the cold I gave her this past weekend. :)
My wife brought back the worst summer cold ever from a visit to her mom's nursing home about a month back. It was bad!
It's the gift that keeps on giving! I'm pretty sure I got it from my friend, who probably got it from his grandkids.
We brew our own Hocl in a little pot. Very simple. It’s also the main component of most eyelid cleansers. Recently I started rubbing it onto the skin of our itchy dog. Mild but noticeable results. It’s also a great counter wipe
Having periodontal disease and a recent tooth infection, I wondered if HOCl could be used in the mouth. I looked it up, and there are studies indicating that it can be used successfully for gum disease and periodontal disease. Unfortunately Curativa Bay doesn’t make a mouth rinse. During the peak of the infection before the antibiotic kicked in to start relieving the pain, out of desperation I resorted to spraying this nasal rinse on my gums (and using colloidal silver and an herbal tea mixture). This combination did me know harm and might have speeded up the healing, but I have no way of knowing. I do wish Curativa would make a mouth rinse.
I want to emphasize the purity and safety of this product.(Curative Bay) Why people recommend other products without looking deeper into this one, surprises me.
Yes! My husband golfs (ugh) and is doing an outside home repair on siding. He is exposed to lots of chemicals in these situations, as well as being sensitive to the change of outdoor air vs air conditioning. We have the Curativa Bay spray and he uses it to stop sneezing from the air change temp. He uses it other times if I remind him... / I started being aware of any subtle nose or throat change when I was working with so many clients, and immediately started using a Homeopathic remedy to stave off a cold. It has worked remarkably well. Between using these two substances our life is much less impacted by resp. illness.
I prescribe the Curativa Bay products for my patients as well, and have observed them to be quite effective for respiratory illnesses, as well as for acne, dermatitis and skin infections, such as impetigo.