My direct ancestors, who lived on a farm in Virginia, ate beef, drank whole milk (that tasted like garlic in the spring when the cow was eating wild onions), smoked hams with saltpeter, canned vegetables for the winter and only had fresh fruit in-season. They almost exclusively lived into their nineties. Not a single one of them had a mammogram, a colonoscopy, or a PSA test. Nor did they have a clue about their cholesterol level or A1C. Basically, they just tried to survive and were thankful they had food. I'm so weary of being bullied into altering my diet because of some scientist's agenda that most certainly involves financial incentives. I believed the lie about the food pyramid when I was in nursing school in the 70's but after the last six years, I am suspicious of everything coming out today with the narrative "studies show."
“Whether by coincidence or not, a review suggesting that eating less protein might also increase longevity fits neatly into existing climate and sustainability narratives that encourage reducing consumption of animal-source foods.” Doc you are being too kind. When it comes to establishment narratives, there are no coincidences. For example when heuristic evidence indicated Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were observed to be effective treatments against Covid, that didn’t support the establishment narrative, so the media ignored reporting on that and promoted lies that led in the opposite direction. Let’s just say they intentionally twisted this paper to fit their narrative…again. It’s what they always do.
I'm 71. I've been eating pretty much anything I want my whole life. Don't eat much processed garbage, or sweets, no sugary drinks, minimal alcohol, stay active, and feel a little bit guilty every time they come out with a new study. I just wait for a while and the science changes.
Turns out that I eat healthy by just listening to my appetite. and ignoring the headlines.
Eat when you are hungry. Sleep when you are tired. Sugar, in most forms, is poison. Your body does not know the difference between sugar and splenda. Not all fats are equal or good for you.
Meat, fat, veggies and fruits (preferably local and in season) and a minimum of processed foods.
Move your body around and get as much sunlight as you can tolerate.
This formula has worked for eons. But since there is no money in it, THEY (big pharm, big ag and assorted busy body activist scum) keep psy oping the world into idiot behaviors.
I laughed out loud when I saw these articles and immediately turned the page.
LAST week, the "keto diet" and lots of protein were "very healthy!"
"Bobby Kennedy eats sauerkraut and beef, and lost xx pounds and is lean and mean!"
Suddenly, "less protein may be better for you! Film at 11!!"
And the gullible and credulous are throwing out their steaks and chicken and buying tofu and kale, "secure" in the "knowledge" that they now "know best."
Meanwhile, I'm trying to ferret out who's throwing out their meat and trying to get my hands on it. I have a couple of neighbors who I have caught throwing away bags of perfectly good food "...because fda says..."
treatments that improved laboratory measurements while ultimately failing to improve patients’ lives. Sometimes these even made outcomes worse. Biomarkers help us understand biology. They do not, by themselves, establish clinical benefit."
It encapsulates the ridiculousness of epidemiology (where an individual's uniqueness is subservient to a population's average). Modern medicine is the antithesis of holistic medicine which takes into account the daily environment in which the patient lives and is nourished (or not) and their vitality within it. The patient in front of me matters so much more than associative speculations of epidemiology.
All things old... I recall when the food pyrimid was announced in the fifties. Wheat at the bottom. No one asked who sponsored the project of course. Then I recall when coconut was pronounced as unhealthy based on a single article. Then I recall when coffee was deemed bad, no wait... good for you. Eggs bad...no wait... In the early 2000s when low carb was the rage and all people ate was meat I took a more logical view and rather than run off after the madding crowd I chose high value carbs - like fruit and vegetables - and reduced portions of everything including meat. Of course, avoiding highly processed food and sugar helps. We are all wonderfully and mysteriously made and no specific diet is going to be just right for everyone. Some things are just intrinsically true - if you need to lose weight, pick a diet you can live with.
Thank you. Another gem of clarification. Summation, don’t read the so called news. Give them a scrap of information and they blow it all out of proportion for “clicks”.
Stopped taking my protein shakes 4 years ago—not due to a article—lost 20#, and had to buy new pants, but in family pictures my face looks thin and gaunt. I always eat meat, beans, cheese, etc., but I need to gain back my strength back do I’m doing the protein shakes again.
I have considered testosterone for added stamina and strength, but the side effects have caused me to pause. Who knows what new issues it will bring. So I’m eating meat and taking protein powder—chocolate of course! 🤩
I wonder if the authors will freak out over the implications of being cited to advance the harmful purposes of others. Maybe they can put out a book refuting the media, during this brief period of relatively free speech.
Fixed (an issue with copying the document out of Word and into Substack):
"But laboratory animals are not people. In fact, rodents are completely different in their digestive physiology. They rely heavily on hindgut fermentation, derive more nutrition from microbial metabolism, have dramatically faster metabolic rates, and possess different nutrient-sensing responses.
As a result, a protein-restricted diet that is well tolerated by a mouse cannot simply be assumed to have the same effects in humans, particularly older adults, for whom adequate dietary protein is essential to preserve muscle mass, strength, immune function, and recovery. This is one reason findings from rodent studies should be interpreted cautiously when making dietary recommendations for people."
The poor Japanese seem the favorite human "lab rat" for this type of study. Remember reading a media blurb in the 60s (?) about how the Japanese were growing taller because we Americans introduced them to sitting in chairs. Kid you not.
Re tallness, we Texans reputed to run taller than average (I am 6'2") but my wife has noticed over the last few yrs folks seem to be getting shorter and she wonders if what you write about today's diet fads plays any role in that.
My direct ancestors, who lived on a farm in Virginia, ate beef, drank whole milk (that tasted like garlic in the spring when the cow was eating wild onions), smoked hams with saltpeter, canned vegetables for the winter and only had fresh fruit in-season. They almost exclusively lived into their nineties. Not a single one of them had a mammogram, a colonoscopy, or a PSA test. Nor did they have a clue about their cholesterol level or A1C. Basically, they just tried to survive and were thankful they had food. I'm so weary of being bullied into altering my diet because of some scientist's agenda that most certainly involves financial incentives. I believed the lie about the food pyramid when I was in nursing school in the 70's but after the last six years, I am suspicious of everything coming out today with the narrative "studies show."
I remember the "spring onion" milk too! and the milkman who brought the glass bottles. We all need to live like your ancestors
“Whether by coincidence or not, a review suggesting that eating less protein might also increase longevity fits neatly into existing climate and sustainability narratives that encourage reducing consumption of animal-source foods.” Doc you are being too kind. When it comes to establishment narratives, there are no coincidences. For example when heuristic evidence indicated Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were observed to be effective treatments against Covid, that didn’t support the establishment narrative, so the media ignored reporting on that and promoted lies that led in the opposite direction. Let’s just say they intentionally twisted this paper to fit their narrative…again. It’s what they always do.
I'm 71. I've been eating pretty much anything I want my whole life. Don't eat much processed garbage, or sweets, no sugary drinks, minimal alcohol, stay active, and feel a little bit guilty every time they come out with a new study. I just wait for a while and the science changes.
Turns out that I eat healthy by just listening to my appetite. and ignoring the headlines.
Me, too. Amazing how that works...
I used to joke that I took care to get my RDA of sugar, salt, fat, and caffeine!
Now, it’s protein, good fats, fruit/veg carbs, and, yes, still caffeine!
75 and hoping to last much longer.
Eat when you are hungry. Sleep when you are tired. Sugar, in most forms, is poison. Your body does not know the difference between sugar and splenda. Not all fats are equal or good for you.
Meat, fat, veggies and fruits (preferably local and in season) and a minimum of processed foods.
Move your body around and get as much sunlight as you can tolerate.
This formula has worked for eons. But since there is no money in it, THEY (big pharm, big ag and assorted busy body activist scum) keep psy oping the world into idiot behaviors.
I laughed out loud when I saw these articles and immediately turned the page.
LAST week, the "keto diet" and lots of protein were "very healthy!"
"Bobby Kennedy eats sauerkraut and beef, and lost xx pounds and is lean and mean!"
Suddenly, "less protein may be better for you! Film at 11!!"
And the gullible and credulous are throwing out their steaks and chicken and buying tofu and kale, "secure" in the "knowledge" that they now "know best."
Meanwhile, I'm trying to ferret out who's throwing out their meat and trying to get my hands on it. I have a couple of neighbors who I have caught throwing away bags of perfectly good food "...because fda says..."
Did Bill Gates have anything to do with this?? They even debunked whole report by admitting they don’t know how much protein people need??
100% agreement on your statement:
"Modern medicine is filled with
treatments that improved laboratory measurements while ultimately failing to improve patients’ lives. Sometimes these even made outcomes worse. Biomarkers help us understand biology. They do not, by themselves, establish clinical benefit."
It encapsulates the ridiculousness of epidemiology (where an individual's uniqueness is subservient to a population's average). Modern medicine is the antithesis of holistic medicine which takes into account the daily environment in which the patient lives and is nourished (or not) and their vitality within it. The patient in front of me matters so much more than associative speculations of epidemiology.
All things old... I recall when the food pyrimid was announced in the fifties. Wheat at the bottom. No one asked who sponsored the project of course. Then I recall when coconut was pronounced as unhealthy based on a single article. Then I recall when coffee was deemed bad, no wait... good for you. Eggs bad...no wait... In the early 2000s when low carb was the rage and all people ate was meat I took a more logical view and rather than run off after the madding crowd I chose high value carbs - like fruit and vegetables - and reduced portions of everything including meat. Of course, avoiding highly processed food and sugar helps. We are all wonderfully and mysteriously made and no specific diet is going to be just right for everyone. Some things are just intrinsically true - if you need to lose weight, pick a diet you can live with.
Thank you for this.
Thank you. Another gem of clarification. Summation, don’t read the so called news. Give them a scrap of information and they blow it all out of proportion for “clicks”.
And to keep America unhealthy.
Amen to that.
Stopped taking my protein shakes 4 years ago—not due to a article—lost 20#, and had to buy new pants, but in family pictures my face looks thin and gaunt. I always eat meat, beans, cheese, etc., but I need to gain back my strength back do I’m doing the protein shakes again.
I have considered testosterone for added stamina and strength, but the side effects have caused me to pause. Who knows what new issues it will bring. So I’m eating meat and taking protein powder—chocolate of course! 🤩
Thanks for this article! I reposted it. Apparently not enough people learned much from the COVID Times!
I wonder if the authors will freak out over the implications of being cited to advance the harmful purposes of others. Maybe they can put out a book refuting the media, during this brief period of relatively free speech.
"But laboratory animals are not people. In fact, rodents are". While indeed some people are rats, I believe this is an editing mistake.
Fixed (an issue with copying the document out of Word and into Substack):
"But laboratory animals are not people. In fact, rodents are completely different in their digestive physiology. They rely heavily on hindgut fermentation, derive more nutrition from microbial metabolism, have dramatically faster metabolic rates, and possess different nutrient-sensing responses.
As a result, a protein-restricted diet that is well tolerated by a mouse cannot simply be assumed to have the same effects in humans, particularly older adults, for whom adequate dietary protein is essential to preserve muscle mass, strength, immune function, and recovery. This is one reason findings from rodent studies should be interpreted cautiously when making dietary recommendations for people."
The left thinks people ARE lab rats!
Ya, but Fauci popped into my mind so I interpreted it as art. 🤣
Politics steers the science. Skepticism is the healthiest lifestyle in this day and age.
The poor Japanese seem the favorite human "lab rat" for this type of study. Remember reading a media blurb in the 60s (?) about how the Japanese were growing taller because we Americans introduced them to sitting in chairs. Kid you not.
Re tallness, we Texans reputed to run taller than average (I am 6'2") but my wife has noticed over the last few yrs folks seem to be getting shorter and she wonders if what you write about today's diet fads plays any role in that.