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Jim Bianchi's avatar

Most Americans, including our current president, have no understanding of what the Jewish Nation has endured throughout it's history which dates back to the time of Abraham. We live in a land of chocolate milkshakes and multi million dollar weddings in Madison Square Garden. The men who wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution understood. Some say that the United States is Israel's only friend. It's the other way around. Israel is the United States only friend. Yet the arrogance continues. And we send a pacifist to talk to a man who has been wounded in combat. The wolf is not at the door. The wolf is among us.

Mark's avatar

I have found that this question will shut down many people on the question of Israel, Gaza, Hezbollah, PLO, etc.

"Who would you rather have as a neighbor?"

Any rational person, with even a cursory knowledge of the region will admit (sometimes grudgingly) Israel would be the go to choice as a neighbor.

I admit it is oversimplification but have had good success with it.

Beyond Spin's avatar

As a Jew, who grew up in a Jewish community, I have more than a cursory understanding of the region. Though you seem only to know the curated modern Zionist narratives that basically have rewritten history to further the labor & revisionist Zionist agenda. This mythology fails to acknowledge what Zionist militia did to another people only a few years after the Holocaust. And yes. I lost family members in the Holocaust.

Please also read my other comments in this thread along with the other links to my blogs on this topic included in those comments.

https://www.malone.news/p/the-wolf-at-the-door-the-safe-room/comment/305977687?r=bvp0g&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

https://www.malone.news/p/the-wolf-at-the-door-the-safe-room/comment/305992819?r=bvp0g&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

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Joewrite's avatar

Do you want Israel to survive? Do you want the U.S. to survive? How about "western culture."

I'm glad the Israelis fought back after October 7th. I hope enough barrages can bring down Hamas, Hezbollah, the Iranian government and anyone chanting death to Israel and death to the US.

Beyond Spin's avatar

Since when does "Western culture" condone killing your own people to prevent them from being taken hostage and bartered for other people who have been illegally detained without due process?

You do realize that the biggest supporter of Hamas before 10/7 was Netanyahu, don't you? This is documented in the Bibi Files as well as Israeli papers, including the right-leaning Times of Israel:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Netanyahu had an arrangement with Qatar to deliver $30 million monthly in cash to Hamas. This occurred for years and amounted to over a billion dollars. This was done to split Palestinian leadership, have a foil to claim that negotiations were impossible w, Palestinians, and prevent any possibility of a two-state solution.

So, as for your first question, based on Netanyahu's Machiavellian chicanery and also based on biblical precedent (even if these are just myths and allegories), Israelites who don't abide by the Mosaic laws should be vomited from the land, and not allowed to return until they atone and are led into the land by the Melekh Mashiach...which isn't Bibi, Herzl, Jabotinsky, Ben-Gurion, etc.

As for the "death to America" chant, that's an idiomatic expression in Iran that basically is the equivalent of saying "damn this" or "damn that." So people in Iran also say "death to traffic," "death to grocery prices", etc. Though, you seem equally ignorant about Iranian culture as you are about everything else.

Charles Kervin's avatar

First you could stand to re-read Dr Malone's post. Second, you should provide proof of your claims about Israel providing the funds. That piece was the typical Times of Israel propaganda against Netanyahu much the same as the New York Times spews terradiddle against President Trump.

At this point, I am calling BULLSHIT on your post.

I have been to Israel and stayed in a kibbutz in the northern part of the country that had rockets dropped into it just a week prior. The dreary atmosphere after the attack still swirled in the air a week later and you knew it was real. That was in 1979. And, it has happened years before then.

Oh and take the claim about the "death to America" and shove it up your ass! I know what taqiyya and know it when I see it.

Beyond Spin's avatar

I read most of it, though on his hasbara tour, his tour guides failed to mention that IDF Merkava tanks shelled houses with Israelis in them to prevent those Israelis from being taken back to Gaza as hostages to be bartered for the thousands of Palestinians detained without any due process via administrative detentions.

Oh, here also is a compilation of clips you should listen to.

https://youtu.be/C3zCP9R_PhY

The first clip is from the documentary film The Bibi Files. The talking heads in the film are other former government officials. They all confirm Netanyahu's arrangement with Hamas. This isn't a secret.

Most of the other clips are from an interview with two brothers who lived in a kibbutz. One of the brother's daughters and son-in-law were taken hostage.

The other clip in this compilation is of Smotrich specifically noting that having Hamas in power was a good thing because then there was an extreme foil that could be used to claim that Palestinians couldn't be negotiated with.

So, thanks for the laughs. But if you want to read some bovine excrement, read your own words.

Debra Silver's avatar

Israel did provide funds... but it was part of the contseptzia... the belief that the Hamas were pacified with cash and all the parties in the government were aware of it... not just Bibi as the liars would have you believe...

Joewrite's avatar

I have been around arabs studying here in the U.S. They play nice when it suits them.

I don't know who you are, but you're hiding behind the facade of being a jew or you're suicidal or a fool or a liar. Lots of those these days.

"Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world," writes Stream, quoting Churchill in a widely distributed e-mail that was forwarded to Daily RFT by way of a displeased recipient. "No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith."

Who are you that you would support these people.

And no I don't want to read all your posts. You're quite taken with yourself.

Science is Political 2.0's avatar

I read some of the what really happened in OCT 7. and I had to stop.. just because you a Jewish.. and that guy wrote HIS OPINION about what "really happened" does not make you or he and authority

HAMAS SLAUGHTERED JEWS IN THE KIBBUTZ. JEWS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. KIBBUTZ ARE NOT MILITARIZED. On that note. I will bow out this conversation.

Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL... Sorry, you're misinformed. It's been independently reported in Israeli newspapers that IDF Merkava tanks shelled homes in the kibbutzes. There are even some Israelis in these homes who survived and provided accounts and testimony. So, it's not any secret that the IDF enacted the Hannibal Directive. IDF Apache helicopters also used incendiary ammunition that, upon contact, makes what was hit go up in flames. That's why there are so many burned up vehicles. There's video evidence of IDF Apache helicopters shooting and blowing up any and all vehicles heading back to Gaza. This was to prevent more Israelis from being taken hostage so that these Israelis couldn't be bartered for the thousands of Palestinians held without due process via administrative detentions.

So, get a clue for once in your life.

Mark's avatar

Darryl Cooper does a deep dive into that. Whether you agree with Cooper's assessment and interpterion or not his hours long deep dive worth a listen. Not saying Israel / Zionist are innocent or blameless. Neither are we as Americans as some of our foreign policy (past / present / future) will be fueled by dip shits, greed and mental retardation writ large. I am not going to pretend to have a thorough comprehension of all things Jewish or Israeli. That is a cultural perspective one cannot have unless raised in it, biases and all. Good or bad. Not judging. We are all biased in some way and culture is a huge piece of that.

As far as what I know. My Jewish grandmother and great grand parents escaped Austria as Hitler came to power. Fled to Singapore, then Japan, then the Philippines (PI). She married and American service man she met when she was 17 in the PI in 1941. On Dec. 7th 1941 the attack on Pearl Harbor launched not only American involvement in WW II, but also the family history. The short version of this story...there isn't one.

My grandfather found out he had a son while in a Japanese POW camp. The movie, "The Great Raid" (2005) details some of the atrocities committed there and then.

And what the hell does this have to do with Israel, the American Southwest and who would be a better neighbor?

I missed being raised Jewish by one word from Grandma Risa..."No". She insisted her grand sons be raised Catholic to avoid them being persecuted as she was.

So I will support Israel's right to be a sovereign nation. We can comment on how that is done, but we are not there dealing with conditions on the ground in real time. Not looking to have a purity test for your neighbors. But I'll take my annoying old guy neighbor that cuts his grass three time a week whether it needs it or not, yells at me for getting gravel on his driveway while clearing three feet of snow so an ambulance can get to his house and some other quirky shit. Versus my old, ghetto neighborhood where I had to wear a gun to cut my grass or work in the yard.

The question still stands, "Who would you rather have as a neighbor?"

Beyond Spin's avatar

I'm glad that you recognize that Judaism is a religion, and not a race.

I shared this paragraph from this blog:

The Lies Behind Modern Zionism.

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/08/09/when-lies-become-ones-truth/

"...Yet, given what I noted above about 1948 and the more recent history of Gaza, so many modern Jewish Zionists adamantly believe that the only reason anyone hates them is that they are Jewish. That is because of what they believe, not because of what was done to Palestinians over the past 100 years. These modern Zionists somehow can’t comprehend how colonization, ethnic cleansing, occupation, murder, administrative detentions, etc., created an environment of animosity and vengeance. So, these Zionists believe that they’re not only without any sin, but that they’re innocent victims. Their cognitive dissonance is off the charts. They not only believe the lies they’ve repeated so often; those lies have become the very foundation of their entire existence..."

You should also read Avi Shlaim's book Three Worlds.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0861548108

Shlaim is a Mizrahi Jew whose family moved from Iraq to Israel in 1952, if I recall correctly. He recounts and documents how false flag bombings were used by Mossad-trained Iraqis to "encourage" Jews to migrate to Israel...where they were treated like second-class citizens.

While not always perfect, Shlaim also noted that relationships between Christians, Jews, and Muslims were good up in Iraq until 1948 and that antisemitism was something largely imported with Ashkenazi Jews. Here's a clip of Shlaim stating this:

https://youtu.be/3DKe_hOxqdQ

Now whenever I share this clip, rabid Zionists scream, What about the 1929 Hebron Pogrom! Though these Zionists never note the context, including Betar's provocations and that Palestinian Muslims protected their Mizrahi Jewish neighbors, greatly reducing the death tolls (which was 68).

And that's the thing, esp. historically with rabid revisionist Zionists and today with rabid Kahanist settlers; they make the world less safe for all Jews both in the past and in the present. .

So, in response to your question, I'd rather have Palestinians as neighbors than rabid Kahanist settlers and many other psychopathic Israelis who are making the world less safe for Jews like me.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

your links do not link to the comment as you desired. Try them.

Instead of beating around the bush, simply state your outright disagreement, your better way, your FULL opinion. The sum total of your comment is Hey, Jews have been bad too! Yeah, no one is perfect. USA has similar defects in times of war-- ALL nations do.

WHAT is your point?

Charles Main's avatar

Weel, there's bad and then there's genocidal. And it's not really a war in the same sense you invoke when a country decides to eliminate a portion of its population.

Melanie Reynolds's avatar

Thank heavens for our 2nd amendment rights. We are so blessed to have our constitution. I looked how many guns per person in countries around the world. It is eye opening. Have a great day. God Bless America

Jim Bianchi's avatar

My perspective comes from bothe the Old Testament and the New Testament

Beyond Spin's avatar

Curious, do you read Ancient Greek? And have you read any of the oldest copies of the Hebrew Bible recovered from Jewish Essene communities (The Dead Sea Scrolls) in their original languages, understanding the context in which these books were written? Similar questions regarding early writings included, and excluded, from the Orthodox canon (New Testament)?

If not, your perspective is based on edited translations where words and meanings have very different contexts in which they were written.

Regarding Revelation, I went over some of these issues in this blog:

Revelation: Context, re-interpretation, and inversion.

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2026/04/04/revelation-context-re-interpretation-and-inversion/

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Joewrite's avatar

You're not a defender of Israel. Your own hatred and spin is showing.

May YHWH save the elect of Israel who are "knights in armor bent on chivalry." I will bless Israel and not curse them. It would be good for persons who care to know where the nations of Israel are today. The elect of Israel will be willing to bring the truth to the world and die in the process.

It's best to keep out of their way.

Beyond Spin's avatar

Spin? Nah, I stick to history and truth rather than mythology, allegorical stories, and made up narratives.

So, as I noted in this blog, https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2026/04/05/allegorical-stories-not-history/ citing another Jew who is a theology professor at Yale's Divinity School, the so-called Israelites were just a band of Canaanites who moved from the coastal plains of the Southern Levant up into the hills around what later became Jerusalem. So, the Exodus and the story of Joshua NEVER happened.

Anyway, thanks for the chuckle...people who take allegorical stories literally are always very amusing

Elke's avatar

Oh, great! One of those “As a Jews”! Just what we need now, lol

Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL. Plenty of other Jews feel the way I do, since we oppose fascist supremacism as part of our Jewish beliefs.

Tom Potts's avatar

Yep, true enough. They voted for Zohran Mamdani and are just beginning to ‘feel the love ‘ from Hamas and Hezbollah in NYC. Hopefully Momdani will be blocked from all participation for all events on September 11, 2026 in NYC. He has publicly stated that he rejoiced at the deaths of Americans of all sorts and also supported Hamas. This arrogant man should be deported back to Uganda. He can visit the Idi Amin museum wherever that is. Amin used to eat his subjects in the basement to gain their power. Amin’s forces killed Bibi Netanyahu’s brother on the tarmac during the rescue of the Israelis at Entebbe. The only Israeli death that day. This will always be remembered as one of the greatest rescues in history against pure evil. You obviously hate YHWH and should stop calling yourself Jewish. It seems that Abaddon is more your cup of tea.

Debra Silver's avatar

as an Israeli, I have been saying for decades... why the hate... we could have been great neighbours??!

Barbara Williamson's avatar

The men who wrote the Constitution had not experienced The Holocaust. How could they possibly know what the Jews have endured since then? And President Trump is well aware of the danger Israel and the world is in if Iran gets the atom bomb. If you would stop hating Trump for five minutes and try to understand the reason behind his decisions, you might come to realize we have had some LOUSY PRESIDENTS prior to now which have made us unfamiliar with one who actually WORKS FOR AMERICA!!

Jim Bianchi's avatar

Thanks, Barbara. I was thinking about the oppression the colonies experienced under the Crown of England. I voted for Trump both times and would do so again. I do wish he would refrain from some of the language he uses in tweets and even in public describing certain individuals. I doubt that many Americans understand what it is like to live for generations with people who hate you and for hundreds of years regarded you as almost sub human. Perhaps Trump understands, perhaps not. But what I do know is that you cannot negotiate with someone who wants to wipe you off the face of the Earth. If Trump has erred, it has been in thinking that you can negotiate with a group of people who want to erase you

Tom Potts's avatar

The Book of Haddassah (Ester) describes a potential Holocaust that was stopped. Queen Ester and her Uncle Mordechai were clever in how they blocked Haman from excersizing the written edict from the Persian King to kill all of the Jews, because they would not worship him. This was 2700 years ago. Queen Ester presented herself uninvited to the King, a potential death sentence to plead her case. The King loved his Queen and wrote another Edict that allowed the Jews to defend themselves. Haman was hung on the gallows he built to kill Ester and Mordechai. Holocaust stopped. This is a book from the Tenackh

D D's avatar

History does keep repeating itself, from the beginning of written word and much farther than that. The Atlanteans and the Lemurians history has been destroyed except for what Edgar Cayce and Ruth Montgomery have written. We are doomed without a return to honoring the God within us.

dan brandt's avatar

If he didn’t understand we wouldn’t have the Abraham accords and bombing the F out of Iran. He needs your support, not your misplaced disdain.

Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL. Nice hasbara, but from someone who is Jewish, grew up in a Jewish community, and had family killed in the Holocaust...let me suggest you don't believe all the nonsense you just regurgitated about the "Jewish Nation."

Judaism is a religion, not a people. Only Hitler and modern Zionists have characterized the Jewish people as a race. Even today, if you were born to a Jewish mother before she converted to Judaism, you can't become a Jewish citizen of Israel. However, if you were born after she converted, you can become a Jewish citizen. If you're an atheist or agnostic, like many of Israel's founders, you can become a Jewish citizen if you fit the mother rule. But if you converted to another religion, even if you can trace your Jewish ancestry back to Shem, you can't become an Israeli citizen per your birth rights.

Please also read my comments I posted elsewhere in this discussion section:

https://www.malone.news/p/the-wolf-at-the-door-the-safe-room/comment/305977687?r=bvp0g&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

as well as these blogs I've written on this subject,

When truth doesn’t match reality

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/02/24/when-truth-doesnt-match-reality/

The Lies Behind Modern Zionist Narratives

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/08/09/when-lies-become-ones-truth/

Allegorical stories, not history

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2026/04/05/allegorical-stories-not-history/

A brief history of modern Zionism

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2026/01/16/a-brief-history-modern-zionism/

3 interesting points concerning Israel, Zionism & US politics

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2024/10/16/3-interesting-points-concerning-israel-zionism/

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Elke's avatar

Jews are a people and a religion. The Torah refers to them as Bnei Yisrael and Am Yisrael.

Beyond Spin's avatar

Define "real Jew"?

Are you claiming that all mankind are descendants of Noah's three sons, including all Jews, and in particular Ashkenazi Jews, being the descendants of Shem?

(Shem → Arphaxad → Shelah → Eber → Peleg → Reu → Serug → Nahor → Terah → Abraham →Issac →Jacob)

Or, are you recognizing that today in Israel, a Jew is defined as having a Jewish mother who could have converted per halakhic procedure to Judaism before that person was born?

Interesting, though, per Israel's laws, a person is not a Jew if he or she was born after his or her mother converted per halakhic procedure. One also is not a Jew, if that person converted to any other religion, even if that person is a direct descendant of Shem.

You do realize that ancient Judaism was a proselytizing religion and that there were even forced conversions of non-Jews, including circumcisions (ouch), during the Hasmonean period, don't you? Not to mention, esp. after Post Temple Judaism, many Jewish men married non-Jewish women in the diaspora. (Many Judean leaders also married non-Judeans and had non-Judean children during the Babylonian exile.)

So, needless to note, lots of miscegenation going on, thus the connection between many Jews in the diaspora, including those who returned to what's now the State of Israel, to the Hebrews in the Hebrew Bible is much more a spiritual one than a literal one.

Not to mention, the Hebrew Bible itself is a collection of allegorical stories. Even Exodus never happened as depicted in the Hebrew Bible as Jewish Yale Prof. Joel Baden https://divinity.yale.edu/profile/joel-s-baden explained in the below linked clip.

https://youtu.be/0EEJ1xCywzg

Israelites were just a group of Canaanites who moved up into the hills when Ancient Egypt included the land of Canaan. So the Torah and the prophets are simply allegorical stories most likely compiled during the Babylonian exile. Though many historians and archaeologists date it more recently during the Hellenistic period.

Elke's avatar
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Dr. Malone has written an excellent piece about the complex situation Israel faced when invaders came from Gaza in 2023, it explains much, and it arouses empathy for Israelis and Jews who have been demonised worldwide. Instead of reading it respectfully and making a couple of thoughtful comments, you disrespectfully insert yourself into the conversation with the intention of undermining the entire position of the essay. You do so with long winded comments that are a combination of irrelevant points and rubbish, peppered with links to more of your nonsense, all with the shield of “as a Jew”. Go away.

Charles Main's avatar

He simply (and remarkably respectfully, given the comments) disagrees. Is that not allowed here? This is the US if I'm not mistaken. Or is this another country?

Elke's avatar

It’s allowed, but excessive and tedious.

Jim Bianchi's avatar

My perspective comes only from the Old Testament and the New Testament

Beyond Spin's avatar

Curious, do you read Ancient Greek? And have you read any of the oldest copies of the Hebrew Bible recovered from Jewish Essene communities (The Dead Sea Scrolls) in their original languages, understanding the context in which these books were written? Similar questions regarding early writings included, and excluded, from the Orthodox canon (New Testament)?

If not, your perspective is based on edited translations where words and meanings have very different contexts in which they were written.

Regarding Revelation, I went over some of these issues in this blog:

Revelation: Context, re-interpretation, and inversion.

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2026/04/04/revelation-context-re-interpretation-and-inversion/

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Someone else's avatar

I respectfully disagree. I'm a senior and I was introduced to what the Jews and Israel have endured at the age of 12, and have been reminded of it frequently ever since, and I think that's appropriate. I married a Jew and we jointly raised our sons to be proud of their Jewish heritage, celebrating primarily the Jewish holidays each year.

What I didn't know anything about until I met and became close friends with quite a few really wonderful young people from Egypt. Turkey, Lebanon and Iran, during my 40s and 50s, is the western propaganda, censorship and lies that everyone else in the Middle East has endured and what their true aspirations are.

The men who wrote the Declaration of Independence believed in treating their enemy far better than Israel does, and they demonstrated those beliefs time and again. They believed, and I do too, that all men are created equal and that we are all only accountable to our Creator.

I further believe we that what we put our attention on only increases, and that we need to learn to promote understanding and reconciliation rather than bias, distrust and war. I am very disappointed that this forum is being used to promote only the perspective that it promotes.

ComeQuicklyLord's avatar

The hatred for Jews is widespread, and I’ve personally seen it on this site by receiving a response on Sunday’s article that said Jews are the Antichrist—I almost posted his name and his response here, but decided not to—I refused to answer him.

Thank you for this article, but I’m concerned that Hamas and the civilian population in Gaza and surrounding areas will continue the hatred and murder against the Hebrew people.

I also believe that Islamist ideology is spreading throughout America and within our political system, by design, and is positioning itself for attacks within our nation similar to October 7, against “The Big and Little Satan.” It’s only a matter of time, but I hope our government AND civilian populace are prepared when it happens, and refuse the propaganda to counter its insurgency.

Thank you for the article. Though somber in nature, truth is always welcome—it’s why I subscribe to your Substack.

Beyond Spin's avatar

The number one cause for any rise today in anti-Semitism today is modern Zionism. Modern (labor & revisionist) Zionism is not Judaism. Before WW2, most Jews, including Talmudic (rabbinical) Jews like my family and Bundist Jews, rejected modern Zionism, which was largely created by atheists like Herzl, agnostics like Ben-Gurion, and atheists like Jabotinsky. I detailed some of this history in these three blogs:

A brief history of modern Zionism

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2026/01/16/a-brief-history-modern-zionism/

3 interesting points concerning Israel, Zionism & US politics

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2024/10/16/3-interesting-points-concerning-israel-zionism/

The Lies Behind Modern Zionist Narratives

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/08/09/when-lies-become-ones-truth/

Please also read my comments I posted elsewhere in this discussion section:

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/the-wolf-at-the-door-the-safe-room?r=bvp0g&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=305977687

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/the-wolf-at-the-door-the-safe-room?r=bvp0g&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=305992819

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Elke's avatar

Anti Zionism is just an excuse for Jew hatred.

Charles Main's avatar

Dr. Malone actually liked this comment? Hard to believe he is the same person who exposed the Covid narrative with scientific fact.

LoverOfHills's avatar

The actual covid first exposers, to inform the public, were the Bret Weinsteins, the "conspiracy" brave ones. I've noticed a similar pattern with the Z issues, not only with folks with big voices but ditto in folks on the ground. It's interesting.

Charles Main's avatar

DarkHorse was my grateful introduction to Dr Malone et al. He--and I think to a considerably lesser but still shocking extent Weinstein and Heying--has gone to a darker place.

LoverOfHills's avatar

I have not kept up with the Dark Horse duo. Dang again. For the Malone's to "like" that comment - just kicks me in the gut. I don't hate Jews.

Elke's avatar

I’m so puzzled by what you mean by this dark place.

Elke's avatar

As with Covid narratives, he ignores the slogans and looks for evidence himself.

Charles Main's avatar

Looks to me like he is creating the slogans now.

Elke's avatar

That’s a flippant dismissal of serious research. He’s used to it though, considering the vaccine cultist’s sanctimonious attitudes.

Beyond Spin's avatar

So, then per your logic, the vast majority of Jews before WW2 were all so-called "self-hating" Jews. LOL. https://youtu.be/ZGTbKVGc6y4 (Rabbi Shapiro in the attached video)

Anyway, thanks for the laugh. Your hackneyed reply was very amusing

LoverOfHills's avatar

Elke. For heaven's sake. Pleeease.

Tom Potts's avatar

Nonsense. People hated Jews since Abram became the first Jew by covenant, 4000 years ago, and had his name changed to Abraham. Situations change over eons of time. But YHWH’s covenant stays. True Christians are grafted into the root of Abrahams’ covenant. At the end of this age , many Jews will return to their ancient faith in YHWH as described in the Book of Romans Chapter 11 of the Christian New Testament. They will be grafted back into the root as natural heirs of Abraham’s covenant from YHWH. It was a one way covenant, from YHWH to the heirs of Abraham. Not genealogy , by faith. As described in the Christian New Testament Book of Hebrews. By faith.

Duane Miles's avatar

You are right about people hating those of the Covenant, but you are a bit confused about the origin of the Jews. Biblically, the term "Jew" applies to the descendants of Judah, one of the twelve sons of Jacob.

Abraham (Abram) paid tithes to Melchizedek, who was a participant in the same covenant as Adam, Enoch, Noah and Moses, among others, including Abraham. But he was not a descendant of Judah, who was his great grandson, so biblically, he is not a Jew.

By definition, a covenant involves two or more parties. The Abrahamic Covenant is unique in that God is the only person in the Universe who absolutely has the power to fulfill His promises and the perfect integrity to always do so. As you pointed out, true Christians are included because they choose to be. Each person has to accept it in order to be part of it, so it is not one way.

The heirs of Abraham (specifically those of Ephraim) were (are) tasked with sharing it with the world. Currently most Jews do not fully understand and don't fulfill their roll in the covenant. As you pointed out, eventually some of them will.

However, they are not the only descendants of Jacob (Israel). The Old Testament has interesting promises about his other posterity.

As you said, those who do truly accept and live it will be grafted in to the true vine who is YHWH, Jesus Christ.

Tom Potts's avatar

YHWH’s covenant to Abraham happened when Abraham was in sleep. Abraham had nothing to do with it. YHWH “cut” the covenant between both sides of the sacrifice. It was one way and Abraham had nothing to do with it. YHWH makes a way for all of us to be grafted into the vine. All nations, all tribes, all tongues. The Covenant of Grace started with Genesis 3:15, and this was the beginning of the Christian church. The ‘seed of the people ‘ was King Jesus. The serpent IS still Satan.

After Abraham was Issac and Jacob. The entirety of our founding faith were all sinners like you and me. But… faith gave them salvation. Faith, not works.

Duane Miles's avatar

You said that "At the end of this age , many Jews will return to their ancient faith in YHWH as described in the Book of Romans Chapter 11 of the Christian New Testament. They will be grafted back into the root as natural heirs of Abraham’s covenant . . ."

This statement indicates that you accept that faith is requisite to be included in the covenant.

In Genesis 12 the LORD spoke to Abram. Surely He would not speak to him and make those promises if Abram had not demonstrated faith.

In Genesis 13 the LORD spoke again to Abram and promised him that his posterity would eventually inherit all the land he could see and that his posterity would be numberless. This again demonstrates that Abram had faith and obeyed God.

In Genesis 14 the priest Melchizedek blesses Abram and Abram pays tithes to him. Abram's faith definitely had something to do with his relationship with God.

I assume you refer to Genesis 15 when you say that the covenant happened when Abram was asleep. Not only had Abram shown faith previously, but the first nine verses of this chapter he has a conversation with God. He's not asleep.

Verses 10-16 apparently relate statements God made to Abram in a dream.

Verse seventeen says "In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, . . ."

Maybe that covenant was made during the dream and maybe not. It does say "In the same DAY . . " And there are no details in the record of who said what in the process of creating that covenant.

Regardless, Abram had demonstrated faith previously. In fact, paying tithes is part of an individual's side of the covenant God desires to make with all men (Malachi 3:10-12).

Genesis 17 relates that God appeared to Abram and made a covenant with him. The record indicates that he was awake. This was also when his name was changed to Abraham.

You said that the Jews would be grafted in to the covenant when they return to the true faith of their fathers. God is not a respecter of persons. He doesn't require something (faith) from one and nothing of another.

Abram returned to the faith of HIS fathers and God made the covenant with him. Abrams faith was indeed great, as shown by his willingness to sacrifice Isaac when God commanded it. That was a severe test. It was a type and shadow of God's willingness to sacrifice His own Son. I'm sure that is why his blessings were (are) so great.

LoverOfHills's avatar

The history of Zionism link says it all succintly, for those who still don't know. Thank you.

As a Catholic..., well suffice it to say, Catholics never took the Zionism detour.

Two responses I get from the Evangelicals in my little world.

1- "I don't want to know." Poking a bit, it's pdq easy to learn, they know nothing of what is going on in Israel, who is Netanyahu, the ongoing killing of innocent people in Gaza, or even of the history of Zionism. Willful blindness is the appropriate phrase.

2- Some other E's respond - they furvently do NOT agree with the Zionism ideology pushed by their pastor. It annoys them, yet stay (so far, of those I know) with this same pastor.

If I was a fly on the wall of Evangelical pastor boardrooms, I bet we'd hear dissent, as I bet they are also just realizing they've been played.

David Merrill's avatar

I am starting to like you.

Your dependence on AI is nowhere as deep as I first took you to be.

David Merrill's avatar

Good points. - Makes me want to adjust some guardrails...

James Goodrich's avatar

I sometimes wonder if there will ever be real peace on earth. As far as this world has come, with so much innovation, it seems to always go back to primitives, like a secure place to be safe, a weapon to protect yourself and your family, enough clean water to survive when the systems of civilization are attacked and shutdown.

Your essay shows me how this push here in America to become a socialized collective society is the very reason I fight to keep power in the hands of the people. I couldn’t imagine being attacked by bands of savages, unable to protect my family and friends because some bureaucrats decided I shouldn’t have access to the weapons I needed. Meanwhile my my loved ones are being exterminated. It seems it always goes back to the primitives even today in 2026. Will there ever be real peace on earth.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

No matter what leftist say, The Second Amendment is one major right that separates America from every country on this planet. How brilliant our founding fathers were!

Michael Williams's avatar

The world is and always will be good vs evil. Exactly why the communist left in America has always attacked the 2nd Amendment, as they know they will never take over America as long as the 2nd Amendment stands. I carry armed 24/7, since spending 27 years in law enforcement and understand perfectly what a human being is capable of. As I tell my children, et al, "always keep your head on a swivel to be aware of your surroundings."

On the topic of Israel, if others weren't evil and/or indoctrinated by the evil, Israel could live in peace. Gaza is a place where they could be extremely prosperous with their resources, but the evil in leadership, chooses to spend all their money and time on hatred and destruction of others.

Tom Potts's avatar

It could be the Côte d’Azur of the Middle East if Islam were peaceful. And a tourist Mecca. With literal excursions to Mecca and Medina and Cairo for those so inclined. Air Emerites could provide the travel and the Saudis could build the resorts. They know how to build giant projects. My father did this for 10 years in Saudi Arabia as an engineer. This what the Abraham Accords could do, if only…..

Cherylyn's avatar

Yes, there will be peace on earth, but only when the Prince of Peace is ruling. “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us;

And the government will rest on His shoulders;

And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,

Eternal Father, Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6).

Tom Potts's avatar

And not a moment before the 2nd Advent, the Parousia.

mspring's avatar

Short answer: no. No peace before the end.

Dave Slough's avatar

Armor up America

Julia Pomeroy's avatar

I am a Christian Zionist in the true sense of the meaning, that is I love Jesus Christ of Nazareth and I believe the Jews have a right to the land of what was known formerly as Mandated Palestine.

I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your well-reasoned essay, how I wish that those antisemites would read and receive the truth.

Long before I became a Christian my best friend at school was Jewish and I never understood why none of the other girls liked her. I spent many a joyous Shabat with her family. We lost touch when we left school, she to university and me to work. Some years later I heard that the antisemitism caused her to take her own life.

To this day, I am now 83, I have never understood racism in all its ugly forms, it truly is incomprehensible to me, even my mother was a racist and my husband, until he became a Christian. Ironically, scholars of various disciplines, including the study of DNA, believe that Adam and Eve were, more than likely, black! I do hope so but I doubt the racists will believe them.

Again, thank you so much, ironically it was a joy to read.

Beyond Spin's avatar

Please read my blog, A brief history of modern Zionism

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2026/01/16/a-brief-history-modern-zionism/

As I noted in my blog,

"...Thus, the irony is that Christian Zionists are inherently antisemitic, and these antisemites are who the Zionist Jews are dependent upon for US political support."

And yes, I am Jewish. Though, I left the Shul of Ziontology a while ago.

Please also read my blog, Revelation: Context, re-interpretation and inversion.

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2026/04/04/revelation-context-re-interpretation-and-inversion/

What Jesus actually taught has very little to do with what you have been led to believe.

Julia Pomeroy's avatar

You are telling me to read your rubbish whilst accusing me of being antisemitic? Thank you very much, I prefer to receive my 'teaching' from the Bible and my pastor not some stranger, who will remain so as far as I am concerned. I am the opposite of racist and have been all my life, despite being white and English.

Please do not attempt to communicate with me again. At least I don't hide behind a silly name, I use my own name.

As for what Jesus taught, I doubt you would know Him were He to tap you on the shoulder.

PS I chose not to read all you had written, if you were looking for converts, you failed - enormously.

Cherylyn's avatar

George Soros was born to Jewish parents in Budapest, Hungary, in 1930. I think the Jew hater, Beyond Spin, must be from the same family. According to a Jewish Pharisee, not every Jew is a Jew. this person might have been born to a Jewish family, but his attitude and beliefs, disqualify him as a Jew. A true Jew is one "inwardly", meaning their identity is rooted in the hidden condition of the heart rather than public affiliation. The praise of a true Jew comes from God, who sees the heart, rather than from other people who only see outward observance.

Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL. I'm actually perfectly fine with my Judaism, especially regarding my pursuit for truth, Middas ha’emes, which I wrote about in this blog:

When truth doesn’t match reality

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/02/24/when-truth-doesnt-match-reality/

With us Jews, there's a saying: two Jews, five opinions. So, your assertion that all Jews must conform to one definition of Judaism is intrinsically antisemitic. I mean, for f' sake, just read the Talmud, which is thousands and thousands of pages of debate over how to best follow Jewish laws.

Plus, also look at Jesus. Jesus was a Torah abiding & teaching Jew. But his interpretations and teachings of Jewish & Mosaic law varied from the teachings of other Jews, especially the Pharisees, of his time.

For example, in Matthew 5:17-48 during the Sermon on the Mount, where Jesus presented six antitheses, Jewish scripture said, Thou shall not commit murder, but Jesus instead said a person shouldn't get angry at anyone else. So, Jesus didn't contradict the teachings in the Torah, he expanded upon those teachings and addressed root causes. That is, if you're not angry at another person, you won't murder that person.

Jesus took this even further. Where the Torah taught to love one's neighbor and be kind to the stranger, that is if that neighbor or stranger is another Israelite, Jesus instead taught to love one's neighbors and strangers even if those strangers are your enemies (see Luke and the story of the Good Samaritan).

So, if Jesus were alive today, his interpretations and teachings of Jewish & Mosaic laws would be at odds with many Jews today, including most modern Israeli citizens. No doubt, Jesus would be labeled a "self-hating" Jew (and probably a Kapo) by Kahanists and Revisionist Zionists.

Additionally, Jesus was an apocalyptic Jew. So, he also taught that the end times and then heaven here on Earth were coming within his lifetime to true believers of God. This included the destruction of the 2nd Temple. That too didn't go over very well with the Jewish leaders (Pharisees & Sadducees) of his time. These teachings about the destruction of the 2nd Temple (and that Pharisees were corrupt) most likely led to these Jewish leaders turning Jesus over to the Romans for crucifixion.

No doubt, if Jesus were alive today, he too would point out how modern Jewish leadership is corrupt. Thus, Jesus, no doubt, would also be accused of "blood libel."

It should also be noted that what Jesus taught was quite a bit different from Apostle Paul's later interpretations of Jesus's teachings as conveyed in the 13 letters of Paul included in the New Testament. So, Pauline Christianity, which is central to orthodox Christianity, varies quite a bit from what Jesus taught, particularly regarding atonement and salvation.

Cherylyn's avatar

When I read your posts, I am reminded of this written by a Pharisee: For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”; I pray that Yahweh opens your mind and heart to the truth before it is too late and you die in your sins.

Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL. While amusing, your antisemitic stereotypes, at this point, are boring.

So, I'm not going to engage with you any further other than to note that Paul was a Pharisee who felt Jewish laws shouldn't be enforced to make Jesus's teachings more appealing to gentiles (mainly pagans). Paul, a Pharisee, whose letters are a large part of the Orthodox canon, thoroughly changed what Jesus actually taught.

So, you wouldn't know what the "truth" is if that truth bit you in your tuchus.

Though as someone with autistic tendencies, including the relentless pursuit of the truth, Middas ha’emes, I hold truth over any form of tribalism. And obviously, truth over tribalism is a concept you can't even grasp in your delusional world.

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/02/24/when-truth-doesnt-match-reality/

Anyway, bye-bye.

Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL. Christian Zionists follow the teachings derived from the Plymouth Brethren popularized in the Scofield Bible. Christian Zionists don't follow what Jesus taught or the Apostle Paul's interpretation of what Jesus taught.

And based on misinterpretations of Revelation, given that Christian Zionists believe that all of us Jews who don't convert to Christianity upon Jesus's second coming, will be cast down into hell. Yes, that is inherently antisemitic.

So, as a Jew, I don't want any of your support.

Anyway, you're old and dogmatic. So, I'll try to be empathetic and not laugh so much at your response even though it's very amusing.

Julia Pomeroy's avatar

You arrogant little pipsqueak, you are a disgrace to your race.

Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL. Judaism is a religion, not a "race." There are Jews of every color and various ethnicities, incl. Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, Sephardic, and Ethiopian Jews. You can convert to or from Judaism. But you know who also claimed Judaism was a race? Hitler. So your belief that Judaism is a race is also antisemitic.

Cherylyn's avatar

He's a disgrace to humanity.

Beyond Spin's avatar

You antisemites crack me up. Thanks for the laughs !!!

Tom Potts's avatar

Scofield popularized dispensational theology, a fairly new, and incorrect interpretation of Christian eschatology, in the 19th century.

All humans who reject the Christ, the Messiach , will be tossed into the Lake of Fire on the day of judgement. It’s not peculiar to Jews. Matthew Chapter 28 offers information from Jesus himself before he ascended to heaven. Preach the Gospel to all nations, all tribes, all tongues, and make disciples. YHWH the Holy Spirit converts them, not mere people.

Elliot Penna's avatar

Of course Adam and Eve were black. The Bible says they were made in God's image!

John Hoopingarner's avatar

Surely you jest. God is a divine, all powerful being. Each human is endowed with a colorless soul in his image. Skin color has nothing to do with it as, no doubt, you know.

Not sure your comment is appropriate considering the gravity of the Israeli situation and history.

Alison Cipriani's avatar

I admire how you are able to arrive at a time and place without the background that many spend years acquiring yet you understand the scope of what has happened in a way that few others have. I would say that some of us including Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, who are constantly villainized by the leftist Israeli media, knew that the conceptzia was based on incorrect assumptions. Hamas does not strive to enter the bourgeoisie and certainly doesn't care at all about Gazan citizens who might want that. Many of us knew that the conceptzia was the product of too many of our top "elite" studying at places like Harvard. So, it was inevitable that we would arrive here.

What we see now is an Israeli youth much more dedicated to the State of Israel and Torah than their parents and grandparents. We are impressed with how our young people stepped up which in turn gives me great optimism for our future.

I am glad that you came to Israel and hope that you were able to also have some fun because we crazy Israelis run to bomb shelters one minute and dance the next. Bless you Dr. Malone.

Beyond Spin's avatar

So, in other words, young Israelis are becoming fascist Kahanist zealots who use allegorical stories to justify their stealing of land since, unlike prior atheist secular revisionist Zionist leaders like Jabotinsky, settler colonialism is no longer fashionable.

Sad, and tragically this will only lead to greater anti-Semitism.

Read: Allegorical stories, not history

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2026/04/05/allegorical-stories-not-history/

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Alison Cipriani's avatar

No, young Israelis are tired of the woke fantasies of the left. We have stolen no land nor expelled huge numbers if Arabs. That's all spin including your dumb attachment. True Jabotinsky said the Arabs would never agree to live with us, the indigenous peoples of this area but in many speeches before 1948 Ben-Gurion expressed the hope that they would. He should have listened to Jabotinsky but we were prepared anyway and have defended our country.

Beyond Spin's avatar

LOL. No, it's the actual history of the formation of Israel and the ongoing terrorism perpetrated by Kahanists like you.

Jabotinsky in the Iron Wall, also specifically noted that the formation of Israel was a colonial project, as I noted in this blog:

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/08/09/when-lies-become-ones-truth/

David Ben Gurion frequently used the euphemism "transfer" for ethnic cleansing, which began at the end of 1947 and is well documented , based on Israeli government archives, in Benny Morris's 1988 book, 1948 and After.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0198279299

So, like other members of the Shul of Ziontology, you confuse your mythology and narratives with what actually occurred. Pick up a copy of Morris's old book so you aren't so ignorant.

Anyway, there's no point in trying to engage with a zealot Shul of Ziontology cult member, so this will be my last reply to you. You're way too brainwashed to have an objective viewpoint or make any pursuit of truth.

I'm not a leftist, or any sort of ideologue. If anything, I'm more libertarian with autistic tendencies, including and especially my pursuit of truth (Middas ha’emes), which I noted in this blog:

https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/02/24/when-truth-doesnt-match-reality/

Though, truth over tribalism is also a concept you'll never grasp or understand.

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Tom Potts's avatar

All land is stolen. The Islamic Caliphs stole the land from the Christians and Jews. Nothing on this earth is fixed .

Mark's avatar

Thank you Dr.'s Malone for putting this out.

The comparison of the American Southwest / Mexico and the Indian raiding is spot on.

Trying to get people to understand the absolute need to be an armed society is difficult.

And to Jim B I agree the wolves are among us and in many cases never left.

Meemanator's avatar

What's the old saying - an armed society is a polite society

Mark's avatar
Aug 1Edited

Attributed to RAH. Also the one below...Pretty sure this is the only way to settle Iran once and for all. Would rather not as I have skin in that game...oldest son graduates USMC boot camp on 9/11.

Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.

Robert A. Heinlein

Meemanator's avatar

I feel your angst. Prayers for your son.

Mark's avatar

Thank you for your prayers.

I'm not worried about him overly much like that. He was raised to be hard to kill and the Marines will put polish on that. More concerned he will marry a stripper or some such. We have cautioned against involving oneself with persons of questionable virtue. But....

Meemanator's avatar

I understand. Completely.

Meemanator's avatar

Thank you. Truth is often bitter, rarely sweet. That we are able to see what is true, regardless how tough, defines true intelligence. My conclusion is that we are at war with dark principalities.

Cindy Cunningham's avatar

This is excellent. Thank you for writing it. It is so discouraging to me to see so many conservative and Christian friends denigrate Israel, buying into the MSM narrative.

Dr. Robert W. Malone's avatar

It has been a shocking turn of current events.

dan brandt's avatar

When it comes to planning, especially propaganda, radical Islam is far ahead of the world. Civility and morals have never successfully prosecuted any war or armed conflict.

Tzu states know your enemy and become your enemy. How many times have the west’s leaders tried to interpret the words of radicals into their insane western morality. Believe what they say, trust your eyes and ears.

Yet we see the denigration of Trump because he works to know and think like his enemy and the left mocks those strategic actions as a friend of dictators. No living Dem leader has ever successfully prosecuted a war or armed conflict, yet so many listen to them and believe what they say.

Stupid is a mark of the left that has and will again cost us all dearly. Put the queers on airplanes and give them a free ride to Gaza. Go get them after a year. I guarantee there will a lot less to bring home and those that do will never be a queer for Gaza or its inhabitants again.

Expat's avatar

I’ve been living in France for years, and what you say is scarily true.

Mark's avatar

In my former job I got sent to a bunch of training about the terror threat ranging from bombs, agricultural attacks, mass shootings, etc. to Neo Nazis, to Antifa, to well pretty much all the bad actors. The Obama and Bush II admins both started to change the language and would not call them terrorists, but instead used terms like Violent Extremists or Homegrown. By changing the language one can call "cis-white, heterosexual, gun owning conservatives that go to church, "violent extremists". Pretty sure I am on too many lists to count.

Many plots, not the ones the FBI kind of manufactures, get stopped on a regular basis. Many plots.

Manufactured plots are those wherein the bad actor gets trolled into meeting with agents, eventually given a bag of grenades, and arrested in the process of doing what he was predisposed do. This is not bad in and of itself. These are lone wolves and usually not part of a network, but needed to be taken off the board.

The two things that stop terror attacks in progress are armed citizens and local Police that respond immediately. No waiting and no hesitation. Engage with what you have, sell your life (if need be) as dearly as possible and stack your honor guard for Valhalla.

We need to stop the attacks in the planning stage. This requires vigilance and being very direct about ignoring DEI and political correctness. If it looks like a duck...it is a fu%^ing duck. Treat it as such.

To touch on the part of the article about the monitors reporting on drone recon and rehearsals by Hamas being ignored. Classic. The worker bees do their jobs, in this case reporting relevant suspicious behavior, Admin / Command files it and there is always the political response to ignore it. Because if you ignore IT, IT will go away and if it happens anyway you blame the worker bees for not reporting hard enough. Lot of that goes on as well in these United States of America too.

One of the things that deters attacks, especially in "Red" more conservative areas of the US are large numbers of armed citizens and aggressive Police response. Armed, immediate response. This seems to be kind of an unwritten rule that keeps an Oct. 7th / Mumbai style attack at bay in the US. My opinion is the bad actors KNOW that they will be engaged immediately and a "successful" mass shooting / bombing attack will result in an overkill response from POTUS, the Congress (maybe) and Bubba Effect backlash. BTW the Bubba Effect was much more widespread right after 9/11 than was publicized.

I rambled a bit. It is early. Thor (our 15 lb boy cat) woke me at 3:30, 4:00 and forced me out of bed at 04:47 by knocking stuff off my nightstand.

Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

That worker bee analogy holds for 9/11

Tom Potts's avatar

And the Cajun Navy

Fred Jewett's avatar

I remember a report being written that of all the countries in the world the US was the least likely to be invaded not because they have a well trained army or the best weapons but rather because the citizenry is so heavily armed.

Tom Potts's avatar

Thank you for this excellent piece. My last trip to Israel was 15 years ago. I visited Israel for business and pleasure 8 times. I worked almost exclusively with Israelis for ten years and love them. People who hate Jews and Israelis are ignorant. They are remarkable people. Kind, funny, industrious, clever, extremely creative , and very dangerous if you threaten their families. Most Americans do not know how intertwined our technology businesses are. Israel is the foundry for all sorts of technology that migrates to Silicon Valley, and into our military and intelligence systems. The end of your piece show their very loving and compassionate side. They save the lives of people that hate them. Since Europe is so dangerous for Jews now, many Jews should migrate to the USA and spread around to places outside of NYC, Miami, and LA. Others should make Aliya to Israel itself. And for Christians, please keep in mind that King Jesus was a Jewish man as were all of the original disciples and almost all of the Apostles. Romans Chapter 11 discusses the future for many of the Jewish people from a Christian, Biblical perspective.

Chris Coles FRSA's avatar

Of greatest importance, you have given a description that transforms the debate of how and why the event occurred, and taken it from a seemingly deliberate decision to allow the October 7th attack to occur; into what is certainly much more credible; a "systems reliance" failure. In that respect, you have laid to rest supposition, and replaced it with a fair review of the how and why it occurred.

On my part, as you may already have discovered, while I am simply another human with what one might describe as a "Thinking" brain; which in turn means that I hold a view that takes the debate right back to 1948, to when what is so well described in the likes of a book titled: The Land and The Book, or, Biblical Illustrations Drawn From The Manners and Customs, The Scene and Scenery of; The Holy Land, was in front of a relatively large group of peoples who had been so dreadfully displaced from their wider European origins, and were looking forward to a new homeland.

Simply, that if another book had been in the hands of their leadership; The Common Law, by Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. Late Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, originally published 1881, (my copy dated 1933), and they had read the first six lectures, particularly Lecture V, The Bailee at Common Law, and Lecture VI, Possession and Ownership; None of the strife that has since occurred would have happened. Palestine was a peaceful and prosperous community; all it needed was an acceptance of the rule of Common Law, and it would surely have remained so right up to this present day That is my belief. No doubt I may have placed my life in great danger for expressing my belief, and from both sides. Regardless, that is what I believe to be true; all it needed was an acceptance of the rule of Common Law and peace would have been the end result.

Alison Cipriani's avatar

That was what David Ben-Gurion wanted. It was then, as now, rejected by the Arabs.

Beyond Spin's avatar

The socialist agnostic Ben-Gurion, like Jabotinsky, believed that the only way to create a Jewish state and solve the "demographic problem" was ethnic cleansing. He explicitly wrote this in 1937. I noted this in my blog, The Lies Behind Modern Zionist Narratives, https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2025/08/09/when-lies-become-ones-truth/

Though, this was after Ben-Gurion came to the realization that he couldn't integrate the indigenous Palestinians into his Jewish homeland vision.

In the 1918 book Eretz Israel in the Past and the Present, co-authored by Ben-Gurion (Israel’s founding father and first prime minister) and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi (Israel's second president), Ben-Gurion and his co-author provided a summary of the strong historical evidence that the local Palestinians were obviously just long-converted Jews. Ben Gurion and Ben-Zvi also expressed the hope that these Palestinians would therefore be absorbed into the Zionist movement and an integral part of their planned Jewish homeland.

In 1929, Ben-Zvi published another booklet making the same points. But after Palestinians became more and more hostile to Zionist colonization and clashed with these European Ashkenazi settlers, this Judean ancestry of the Palestinians was forgotten and deleted from the memory bank.

Debby's avatar

I too had wondered if Israel knew about the impending attack on October 7th and let it happen, so they'd have a reason to go to war. They always seemed to find out about attacks before hand and were prepared. The description by Dr. Malone of the failures helps make sense of the slaughter of so many. It appears that the leadership has made corrections so this doesn't happen again, but I don't think they've gone far enough.

Laney's avatar

Well I’m renewing my subscription to this substack. I canceled my support to a couple of covid era substacks & the Highwire. All of these stood on the tragedy that befell the Jewish people during the Holocaust. The medical experimentation conducted upon them, and “never again.” Yet, not a peep from any of these substacks or the Highwire about the worst day to befall the Jewish people since the Holocaust. Sure we heard plenty about human interest stories (and rightfully so) about Lahaina, volcanoes earthquakes elsewhere in the world, but nothing about October 7th. It was deeply disappointing to me. When the 3 Ds (defamation, delegitimization & double standards) are applied to Israel, and no one else, that’s a red flag. With antisemitism engulfing the west, we are standing on the brink of ruination. As the saying goes, what starts with the Jews doesn’t end with the Jews. This is really the only substack I’ve continued reading. The ability to pivot into other topics like homesteading I love. The recent post containing info on sourdough was excellent. So glad intellectuals such as yourselves really understand what time it is. 💕

Expat's avatar

I just did the same, and also cancelled some subs because of weird behavior. Glad I’m not alone!

John Wygertz's avatar

My father-in-law was a Polish camp survivor.

Never forget. Never again.

Jean's avatar

I greatly appreciate your coverage and insights here!

My knowledge of Israel and the events its been experiencing comes primarily through Mark Levin. A constitutional expert I encountered during tea party days. He's been making in person trips and has been friends with Netanyahu. He well covers the pain of the assaults the Jews have been experiencing.

For myself, from grade school through our fed gov, a law firm and clients,] I've encountered many Jews. Some have been exceptional, some everyday like the rest of us and a few really bad apples (like our own).

Your insights are eye opening and invaluable.

I try and understand their positions by viewing it from being in their shoes. I frankly find myself very hostile toward their enemies. I can fully appreciate their having such reactions. I can appreciate their head of state - loving the country, caring for its citizenry (with some as evil or misguided as our bad actors oppositions) - breaking hard toward the opposition.

Your reporting contributes greatly to my perceptions. Israeli kindnesses and contributions too often fail to be recognized and acknowledged!

I will be greatly looking forward to your further review.