If you go to China and go through customs, and they recognize you are in ill health, they will not allow you in! How many immigrants carried diseases into the USA over the last 5 years because of
loose policies? I'm more worried about the new Gain of Function Chimeric virus out of South Korea that expressed a 100% lethal level in the test animals. When will we stop this Bio push to create deadly pathogens?
I went through Shanghai in Jan 2020. Pictures were required. Now they probably use AI to process all the images for a fever, slight skin flush, fatigued expressions, and whether you just broke up with your girlfriend or mistress.
So in addition to the sky falling and COVID variant BS 24/7, the Marburg virus will end us all - - - or not. Fearporn is an appropriate term, seizing on the fear of death. There is an irony in death being inevitable, regardless of any cause diagnosis. The process of injecting our bodies with substances hoped to be a preventative of one of many relatively insignificant paths to death warrants scrutiny. The mere physical process of injection, regardless of content, carries risk. More thought, investigation and vetting must be implemented before injecting. It is not only a possibility, but a reality, that an injection can be more lethal than the targeted disease. Pharma along with it's enormous financial backing has been successful in establishing an inject first and think later treatment protocol throughout our institutional health system. Innocent, incapable of vetting any injection, infants are subjected to an obscene volume of injections for conditions they do not have. A signed waiver should be required prior to any injection.
Personally, I am not afraid of something that takes direct contact to infect, especially knowing that some people do come in direct contact with the Marburg virus and never develop symptoms. https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-020-05187-0 Obviously their immune systems protected them. If my immune system failed, and I did develop life threatening symptoms, I would rely on the emergency introduction of robust antibodies from a convalesced individual that was exposed to the entire virus. I would not rely on the idea of trying to protect myself by injecting something that creates serum antibodies against a small piece of the virus that can’t prevent the infection from happening anyway. Especially since during the process of making those serum antibodies, cytotoxic t-cells that can prevent infections at epithelial barriers get retrained to look for something very specific, and forget about everything else, leaving the person more vulnerable to everything else.
And there’s absolutely no shame in propagating such lunacy. Even most leftists won’t believe the nonsense anymore. People are still lining up in illinois drugstores for the latest jab. Conveniently timed with flu jabs. Sadly pathetic!
Thank you Secretary Kennedy, for impaneling new ACIP committee with the expertise and the sense of morality to truthfully advise HHS about the proper reaction to the Marburg Virus.
Rather than justify a gross overreaction to a serious virus, which would lead to millions of dollars being pocketed by undeserving individuals, we can proceed with real scientific evidence that will help our citizens on their road to better health. This would never have happened under the Democrat regime, with their dollar signed eyes of capitalizing on a pandemic that existed only in their minds.
So, here's my thought process. As I did with COVID-19, I'll prepare to treat a Marburg infection in the highly unlikely event there's an outbreak in my neck of the woods in what remains of my lifetime. Preparing to treat means securing beforehand, if possible, agents to combat the infection. As with COVID-19, I'll take my chances with the virus vs. any and all "vaccines."
With C19, I rolled the dice that my immune system and prep medications would handle it. With Marburg, I'll roll the dice that I'll never have to handle it. I can't do a thing about some agent of evil working in a lab somewhere helping Marburg gain more function in, say, transmissibility, but if that happens, based on its fatality rate, there'll be nothing left to live for, anyway.
The VSV vaccine looks interesting but I wonder about its stability in storage. Worked with VSV in the Air Force and it would lose one log of PFU titer on each thaw. Did not see that with our other stocks
Certainly I'm more concerned, not afraid, of the politicized public health and media. With the government shutdown, there are groups who will do anything to instill fear to stoke public doubt and form opinion. The purpose is to ratchet up pressure on Congress and the Administration to end the shutdown and cave to unconscionable demands in favor of manufactured fears of mythical health emergencies. Nice try, but these remnants of the old, corrupted CDC are rendered inert due to our all too recent experiences with COVID foisted on us by the usual suspects.
Here’s the beauty Dr Malone… (future vaccines aside)…the most effective variant of African hemorrhagic fevers was probably Ebola Zaire…. Mortality in the upper 60 percent of contractions. Not so sure about Marburg as it wasn’t prevalent when I was in Africa…The commonality of these hemorrhagic viruses is they can be defeated via quarantine (kills host timely) and the virus doesn’t spread through airborne particulate….Identify, isolate, inoculate (if able)… This is what CDC use to do before their administrators ruined their effectiveness…. FYI…This is all according to my dad’s perspectives. By the way, he once told me that if any virus could be effectively weaponized, it would have been small pox. Somewhat ironic, as he led many efforts in the ultimate eradication of that virus. Let’s have lunch.
All very interesting. I'm very tempted to criticize my reaction.
After all it seems a very small investment to contain a rather unlikely crisis. Perhaps there are no more pressing pathogenic catastrophes that need to be addressed. Perhaps there are vast discretionary funds available to deploy. Who are we untrained mortals to reflect on the merits?
Best that we have these issues considered and decided by our restuctured, refurbished NIH - AI and our newly appointed leadership? But then we read BARDA seems to have an impactful role.
How do NIH & BARDA interact? Their relationship during the Covid caper - Was it deliberately confusing? If I recall it used a work around. Does this need study, consideration and clear known deliniation?
Strange randum thoughts for a sunny Thursday fall afternoon.
I have read Dr Alibek’s book. Very interesting. There is also a book called Hot Zone about a hemorrhagic virus entering the USA via primates. It is a true story. After reading this book it has me freaked out about Ebola or Marburg viruses. The Reston virus is what the primates were infected with. What is scary is if they developed an Ebola or a Marburg virus that is air born. The Reston virus was airborne but only infected the monkeys.
Thank you for this info. I had decided that if a hemorrhagic airborne virus was let loose here in our country I wouldn’t leave my home until it was contained . It is scary virus.
If you go to China and go through customs, and they recognize you are in ill health, they will not allow you in! How many immigrants carried diseases into the USA over the last 5 years because of
loose policies? I'm more worried about the new Gain of Function Chimeric virus out of South Korea that expressed a 100% lethal level in the test animals. When will we stop this Bio push to create deadly pathogens?
I went through Shanghai in Jan 2020. Pictures were required. Now they probably use AI to process all the images for a fever, slight skin flush, fatigued expressions, and whether you just broke up with your girlfriend or mistress.
So in addition to the sky falling and COVID variant BS 24/7, the Marburg virus will end us all - - - or not. Fearporn is an appropriate term, seizing on the fear of death. There is an irony in death being inevitable, regardless of any cause diagnosis. The process of injecting our bodies with substances hoped to be a preventative of one of many relatively insignificant paths to death warrants scrutiny. The mere physical process of injection, regardless of content, carries risk. More thought, investigation and vetting must be implemented before injecting. It is not only a possibility, but a reality, that an injection can be more lethal than the targeted disease. Pharma along with it's enormous financial backing has been successful in establishing an inject first and think later treatment protocol throughout our institutional health system. Innocent, incapable of vetting any injection, infants are subjected to an obscene volume of injections for conditions they do not have. A signed waiver should be required prior to any injection.
Personally, I am not afraid of something that takes direct contact to infect, especially knowing that some people do come in direct contact with the Marburg virus and never develop symptoms. https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-020-05187-0 Obviously their immune systems protected them. If my immune system failed, and I did develop life threatening symptoms, I would rely on the emergency introduction of robust antibodies from a convalesced individual that was exposed to the entire virus. I would not rely on the idea of trying to protect myself by injecting something that creates serum antibodies against a small piece of the virus that can’t prevent the infection from happening anyway. Especially since during the process of making those serum antibodies, cytotoxic t-cells that can prevent infections at epithelial barriers get retrained to look for something very specific, and forget about everything else, leaving the person more vulnerable to everything else.
And there’s absolutely no shame in propagating such lunacy. Even most leftists won’t believe the nonsense anymore. People are still lining up in illinois drugstores for the latest jab. Conveniently timed with flu jabs. Sadly pathetic!
Thank you Secretary Kennedy, for impaneling new ACIP committee with the expertise and the sense of morality to truthfully advise HHS about the proper reaction to the Marburg Virus.
Rather than justify a gross overreaction to a serious virus, which would lead to millions of dollars being pocketed by undeserving individuals, we can proceed with real scientific evidence that will help our citizens on their road to better health. This would never have happened under the Democrat regime, with their dollar signed eyes of capitalizing on a pandemic that existed only in their minds.
So, here's my thought process. As I did with COVID-19, I'll prepare to treat a Marburg infection in the highly unlikely event there's an outbreak in my neck of the woods in what remains of my lifetime. Preparing to treat means securing beforehand, if possible, agents to combat the infection. As with COVID-19, I'll take my chances with the virus vs. any and all "vaccines."
With C19, I rolled the dice that my immune system and prep medications would handle it. With Marburg, I'll roll the dice that I'll never have to handle it. I can't do a thing about some agent of evil working in a lab somewhere helping Marburg gain more function in, say, transmissibility, but if that happens, based on its fatality rate, there'll be nothing left to live for, anyway.
The VSV vaccine looks interesting but I wonder about its stability in storage. Worked with VSV in the Air Force and it would lose one log of PFU titer on each thaw. Did not see that with our other stocks
True
A log base 10? Or a ln base e? Either way it is a lot. Wow!
10
Certainly I'm more concerned, not afraid, of the politicized public health and media. With the government shutdown, there are groups who will do anything to instill fear to stoke public doubt and form opinion. The purpose is to ratchet up pressure on Congress and the Administration to end the shutdown and cave to unconscionable demands in favor of manufactured fears of mythical health emergencies. Nice try, but these remnants of the old, corrupted CDC are rendered inert due to our all too recent experiences with COVID foisted on us by the usual suspects.
Here’s the beauty Dr Malone… (future vaccines aside)…the most effective variant of African hemorrhagic fevers was probably Ebola Zaire…. Mortality in the upper 60 percent of contractions. Not so sure about Marburg as it wasn’t prevalent when I was in Africa…The commonality of these hemorrhagic viruses is they can be defeated via quarantine (kills host timely) and the virus doesn’t spread through airborne particulate….Identify, isolate, inoculate (if able)… This is what CDC use to do before their administrators ruined their effectiveness…. FYI…This is all according to my dad’s perspectives. By the way, he once told me that if any virus could be effectively weaponized, it would have been small pox. Somewhat ironic, as he led many efforts in the ultimate eradication of that virus. Let’s have lunch.
I’ll take the monoclonal antibodies for 10 Dr Malone. NO “vaccines”
Thank you for this fact-filled article. You empower your readers!
SuperGrok is amazing. When I think of all the time I've spent finding and summarizing info...
But today's and future researchers are gonna miss out on the rare serendipitous moments of the accidental discovery of new directions.
Overall, I don't think I'm going to miss the slog.
All very interesting. I'm very tempted to criticize my reaction.
After all it seems a very small investment to contain a rather unlikely crisis. Perhaps there are no more pressing pathogenic catastrophes that need to be addressed. Perhaps there are vast discretionary funds available to deploy. Who are we untrained mortals to reflect on the merits?
Best that we have these issues considered and decided by our restuctured, refurbished NIH - AI and our newly appointed leadership? But then we read BARDA seems to have an impactful role.
How do NIH & BARDA interact? Their relationship during the Covid caper - Was it deliberately confusing? If I recall it used a work around. Does this need study, consideration and clear known deliniation?
Strange randum thoughts for a sunny Thursday fall afternoon.
Thank you and have a good one.
I have read Dr Alibek’s book. Very interesting. There is also a book called Hot Zone about a hemorrhagic virus entering the USA via primates. It is a true story. After reading this book it has me freaked out about Ebola or Marburg viruses. The Reston virus is what the primates were infected with. What is scary is if they developed an Ebola or a Marburg virus that is air born. The Reston virus was airborne but only infected the monkeys.
Thank you for this info. I had decided that if a hemorrhagic airborne virus was let loose here in our country I wouldn’t leave my home until it was contained . It is scary virus.
What does Dr Psaki have to say now?
I believe it is in the fifth paragraph, a typo: the USG will no longer consider instead of "considering" itself... back to more reading.