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Barbara Lee's avatar

As someone who has lived within the social circle of a large Amish community for 40 years and been present at the birth of countless babies (I’m the volunteer ambulance when things go wrong) and watched 3 generations grow up, I can tell you without a doubt that their babies and children are absolutely different than those in normal “English” society. Is it the life style, is it low uptake of medical intervention (ie very low use of antibiotics and vaccines), is it diet with raw milk (pasteurization became mandatory in the 1980s matching the rise in a variety of diseases) and multiple probiotic sources of gut bacteria (which glyphosate damages), is it the low stress environment, the lack of electromagnetic radiation…. I do not have a clue BUT they are healthier from minute one, stronger, and smarter. The next 20 years are going to exciting ones for young science sleuths!

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Sharon's avatar

Ya refuse to download the latest IOS government spyware, so I can’t ❤️ your post. Too bad Substack complies with the update mandates.

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AD21's avatar

Here's the danger. My 4-year-old granddaughter was identified as "autistic" by a single preschool teacher. Why? Because she finished her work before the other kids, was not given any extra work while she waited, and then became restless. At one point, she was ordered to sit by the teacher. It was all on video. Fortunately, I am a retired psychologist, and there is no way my granddaughter is autistic. She displayed none of the symptoms. I managed to convince her parents to pull her out of that classroom and never to mention the word "autism" to their daughter. For one thing, she was one of the youngest children in the class. For another thing, she is quite advanced in academics, having been instructed by her mother at home. She is now 5 years old and scheduled to begin kindergarten this fall (at a different school). I have every confidence she will do well. How many children have been misdiagnosed as having autism when there is no hard evidence that they do?

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LB (Little Birdie)'s avatar

Having gone thru the public school system with 2 boys + working within same for 5 years and, as well, helping to create a 4 county public School of Choice, I know there are differences in the way some are set up for children to learn/thrive. Most teachers in public schools are only interested in the round peg fitting in the round hole. My best advise to parents is "Find the school that fits the child, not the other way around". I moved my 2nd child thru out his school years looking for a fit for his ADHD behaviors. Best would have been Montessori but we had none here at the time he went from K-12. I was frustrated, angered by the callous labeling by the adults in those institutions and he suffered from not "feeling normal". That said, he ended up fine with a self owned business, but never fit/nor enjoyed school.

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AD21's avatar

Thank you for sharing your (and your son's) experience. I couldn't agree more.

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Larry Cox's avatar

I wish I could assert that your experience was uncommon. I fear it happens much more often than most of us imagine.

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Matt Cormier's avatar

I’m the author of a new study on the link between vaccines and autism.

I believe that common viral infections like Herpes Simplex, play a central role in the development of ASD. And that vaccines can trigger autism by reactivating viruses people are already carrying, producing viral encephalitis.

https://open.substack.com/pub/healthuncensored/p/a-groundbreaking-new-perspective?r=1yb5g0&utm_medium=ios

You can find a short video presentation highlighting key points from my paper as well as a link to my pre-print in that post ☝️

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Barbara Charis's avatar

The substances in the vaccines do not belong in the human bloodstream. Aluminum, mercury, fluoride, etc. contribute to brain damage. Drugs of all sort damage the organs...the brain included. I have studied healthy people and they avoid modern medicine like the plague. I am healthy at 91, because of a sick child that nearly died from the vaccines in the 1950s...and it got me into the study of health.

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Matt Cormier's avatar

I agree with you.

But on the topic of vaccines and ASD, there is a biological variable or variables not being addressed.

After all, not all children regress into autism after receiving their childhood vaccinations.

I believe that variable is underlying latent viral infections passed on congenitally, that are reactivated by vaccines.

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David Merrill's avatar

Hi Matt;

If this post catches your eye - open all the links to the right and familiarize yourself with the context.

You might be unaware that I am all over the Map. I will keep it to things I believe are fact, because I watched your video and I like you.

Arc tech, as in Ark of the Covenant is composed of interactive superconductor transition ORMES - Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements. Flowers (scarlett women) produced undifferentiated fetal stem cells in a "born again" ritual until the Arc tech was associated with viruses. Menstruum crossing the olfactory bulb began creating some real problems for the Imperial Court of the Dragon Sovereignty; charged with protecting the scientific integrity of the Royal Bloodline (Cayin) Sons of God. Paraneoplastic limbic encephalitis and frontal lobe herpes was causing brain seizures.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CN46rkrLPklVtyFA16w42Bok-pLPr6-y

The LifeWave patches chelate copper from the bones and induce (at any age) more prolific generation of undifferentiated stem cells. The problem is that these baby cells require about five hours for maturation and in that time we have been entrained to expel them through our urine - since our fetal development. A bag of stagnant water (amniotic fluid) is a harsh place for growing a fetus through proper gestation. As soon as the fetus' stem cells are excreted from the bones they are also excreted into the urine-filled amnion. There, they mature and soak the lungs, sinuses and are swallowed into the digestive tract etc, aside from the obvious bath on all the orafices and skin. This is the hedge against cellular deformities during mitosis and miosis of gestation.

If you are not engaged with peptides, ORMES and photobiomodulation - and David SCHMIDT's reflectors: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kMloMfvJQ_l-WjMBL16IUwXc4cQ63k_n etc, you are just going to have disgusting breath and people will stop inviting you over for meals. You need to be generating a large amount of undifferentiated stem cells for this process to be economical.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11mz5A1ShBooi6Y6d4jGmuExbNn8w27so

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ia7sHHj370YnmPpTwJJ-2hT8xOOWm12K

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_pY9f3al8Kk85aYkKl-zsg6-yln09JzX

Set the tVNS (transcutaneous Vagus Nerve Stimulator) to 111 Hz: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uF-3nDzOz9dt4XrtHwcvlQLJrHxzk5W2

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1APFtFCb61sa4ZGppcT5FOEEkFbff3FzA

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HGiQe9S9305pbCpkVJnxY_HOTC4bDyGs

The Internet narrative about cupramine is that this is a highly dangerous venture and terrible invention: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OTQRVsuhFIXMTxZEd_lU5QCf3-mtBlJF

The Key is to use the BAATI formula for 50% of the olive oil. That will prevent any toxins from poisoning your liver and kidneys. This is risky stuff but the results are immediate, within three hours and practiced over eight weeks will rejuvinate most of your tissues.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y1U5K_Gb4khO7S6QuBIPw8ZwC7IrqP1Q

The reason for drinking "morning" urine is two-fold. An empty stomach will pass the stem cells through to the intestines and blood, at about the time they reach maturity and become viable building blocks. Which is the other reason - 5-8 hours in the bladder. But there is a third reason; sleep means the stem cells were excreted from the bones while the underlying nervous pathway modality was rich with melatonin.

Thank you for Recycling!

P.S. I discussed the menstruum thing with an old witch. Which is a good thing. In a wiccan gift shop setting (lesbians) she got a volunteer flower (flow-er) before me and developed a herpes infection in her frontal lobes. At her age she chose death over a long recovery and I took heed of the warning.

A realistic approach to "Eternal Life".

https://youtu.be/qt07T7rxuHc?t=2479

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7tpOKLxpCQ&t=4249s

P.P.S. It does not end with the discontinuation of the menstruum, by order of the Imperial Court of the Dragon Sovereignty: https://youtu.be/k3uBGONllfQ?t=174

https://drive.google.com/file/d/134PUKy29RzZHmNqa4AAk4wYSTq_E5kAl

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_eSnZ5xIEPHQ2t0UB8XcB0iVxQb2WuPv

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

As I perused through this, it appears that we’re looking at everything — instead of focusing on what it could be and then eliminating that as a possibility.

Sure, it could be generics, sure it could be food, but even the data on the Orthodox Jews shows that there is a high correlation to vaccines.

Whether rare or not, vaccines do cause encephalitis and that does display itself as autistic characteristics as I detailed here: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/stop-calling-it-autism-start-calling

By looking at every other scenario —vs doubling down on the greatest contribution factor— we fall down the trap of getting “lost in the sauce.”

The DSM has done a horrible job of making this worse because now mistake those with physiological injuries with mental disorders. These two are not the same: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/how-the-dsm-iii-and-tv-shows-rebranded

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Dr. Robert W. Malone's avatar

Have you ever heard of the "method of multiple working hypotheses?"

"The Method of Multiple Working Hypotheses: With this method the dangers of parental affection for a favorite theory can be circumvented." Written in 1890 - reprinted in 1965.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.148.3671.754

It is one of the most important articles Science has ever published and why just trying to solve one hypothesis at a time will ultimately lead to biased results.

"The theory of multiple working hypotheses is a methodological approach in scientific inquiry that encourages researchers to develop and test multiple hypotheses simultaneously for a given phenomenon. This method was introduced by the 19th-century geologist T. C. Chamberlin, who argued that scientists should avoid the pitfalls of "parental affection" for a single hypothesis by considering several possibilities.

By doing so, researchers can increase objectivity, flexibility, and the ability to recognize their own errors and ignorance"

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53rd Chapter's avatar

Random thoughts from a layman on this article:

• I couldn’t help but think of Elon Musk during the first half of the article - genius with interpersonal challenges

• Bill Clinton biting the lip: “As the old joke goes, “sincerity—once you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”

• Rick Perry, as Governor of Texas, promoting Gardasil for young teens (out of the goodness of his heart?): “... CDC's ACIP rapidly endorsed Merck’s Gardasil HPV vaccine in 2006 despite up to 64% of members’ having potential conflicts of interest.” This would be the same ACIP that Senator Cassidy is so fond of, and the one that suddenly lost all of its members thanks to the courage of HHS Secretary Kennedy.

• “Today, nearly 40% of young people identify as sexually divergent…” What??? Looks like the LGBTQ+ religion needs a little First Amendment separation of church and state. This is both criminal and intolerable!

Determining the cause(s) of autism will not be easy, but the marked differences in the impact on the Amish and the Africans cannot be ignored. Still a huge challenge, but at least an impartial and honest inquiry is underway.

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Beau's avatar
Jun 11Edited

Goodness what a remarkable, thoroughly researched, and comprehensive exercise in intellectual auto-eroticism. Respectfully, this is not meant as a cut - just an honest response. I applaud Dr Bock's research and writing skills alongside his efforts to remain categorically neutral.

However, I imagine that anyone who was already confused or on the fence about the issue who might make it all the way through this treatise, would remain just as, if not more confused. As academically admirable as this piece is - I don't see how it helps the common man.

Conspicuously absent from this voluminous dissertation is any mention at all of the infamous meeting at the CDC Simpsonwood conference center in 2000 - what was revealed then by CDC's own scientists, and the election of the CDC to cover it up. The course of that event alone speaks volumes to the issue (if it's volumes we want)!

Some 40yrs ago, in a well respected health magazine, I read a review of a study of autistic subjects, long before the nature or fervor of the current 'debate' - even before the 1986 "Vaccine Child 'Safety' Act" was passed. The goal of the study was to find common denominators among the subjects that might be relevant to their condition. The glaring takeaway from the study was the profoundly excessive presence of heavy metals in the livers of the overwhelming majority of the subjects - you know...heavy metals like the ones that vaccines are routinely laced with - at known toxic levels! One need not be a rocket scientist to connect the dots!

In closing let me be clear that I believe autism has multiple sources - like those suggested by Dr. Bock's good work, but the 'debate' that rambles on about this one among learned earthlings makes sense only when viewed through an Overton Window.

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Larry Cox's avatar

I agree. In the end, what can most of us do with all this information besides sort of stew in our own juices?

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Bettina Palisek's avatar

Congrats to your appointment to the vaccine advisory panel, Robert!!!! I am so excited!!! The best choice!! You will do an incredible job and you can work with RFKjr! All the best, Bettina

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Mark Brody's avatar

This was a frustrating article to read, although I can appreciate the hard work that went into composing it. Bock states that "vaccines lack proven causality" for autism, although I am sure he is aware that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." The properly powered placebo controlled randomized controlled study have simply not been done. The absence of these studies may well call into question the reasons for not doing these studies. Any researcher could tell you, and it bespeaks the hidden beliefs of research funders: they so strongly suspect a causal connection that they dare not fund quality research on the topic.

The Bradford Hill criteria for causality between vaccination and autismeasily seem to have been met. Bock seems to bend over backwards to neither exonerate nor condemn Wakefield, who has been widely understood to have been used as a poster boy to intimidate researchers from doing the kinds of investigation Wakefield was calling for. If anything, Bock seems to be kicking up more clouds of dust rather than clarifying the likely causal factors for autism in any dispassionate way.

His discussion of the diagnostic redefinition of autism is edifying, much as the reclassification of neurological diseases previously called polio to polio diagnoses is relevant to understanding the changing incidence of polio in the 1950's. Nonetheless, we are left confused about just how much changes in diagnostics, and other cultural factors, such as the desire to obtain SPED services has affected the true incidence of autism. It is odd he did not mention Christopher Shaw's or Christopher Exley's work on aluminum. Although he mentions Lyons-Weiler's work, he fails to mention his recent book summarizing the evidence on autism that decisively concludes that a) autism is primarily epiphenomenal (i.e. environmental) and only secondarily genetic, and that vaccination likely plays a major role.

I give Bock credit for even tackling the issue, but it appears he is tip-toeing around the truth in order to avoid stepping on land mines, or should I call them Wakefield mines.

I was expecting a bit more from this essay, but it is at least courageous of Bock to even tackle the issue.

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John Hocutt's avatar

Congratulations on you position as a panel member Mr Malone! I was excited when I read the news!

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

It is my understanding that Dr. Eisenstein delivered these babies and did not give them vaccines and few acquired autism. This is from Claude AI.

Dr. Mayer Eisenstein delivered approximately 15,000 babies during his lifetime Chicago , with most of these deliveries taking place at home Chicago.

Some sources provide slightly different numbers - one source mentions "over 14,000 babies" delivered by 2000 The Home Birth Advantage: Eisenstein, Mayer: 9780967044408: Amazon.com: Books, while other sources consistently cite 15,000 babies delivered since he began his practice in 1973 UPIDrmomma.

Dr. Mayer Eisenstein (1946-2014) was a pediatrician and family physician who founded and ran the Homefirst practice in suburban Chicago from 1973 until his death in 2014. Homefirst became known as the largest physician- and midwife-attended homebirth practice in the nation peaceful parenting: Homebirth Caretakers: Doctors Who Come to You, and they were even delivering second-generation babies for women who themselves were born at home with his practice peaceful parenting: Homebirth Caretakers: Doctors Who Come to You.

So to answer your question directly: Dr. Mayer Eisenstein of Elk Grove Village, Illinois delivered approximately 15,000 babies during his lifetime career spanning over 40 years.

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Matthew Koch's avatar

As someone who works with a number of autistic children, I will be very excited to digest this later. I greatly desire an HONEST examination of the topic in the headline.

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KMW's avatar

Just saw RFK’s announcement of the new AICP members. Congrats Dr. Malone - so happy you will be there bringing scientific knowledge, wisdom and common sense !

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AFistFullOfGizzards's avatar

I have so much to say about this really excellent article, and I hope that this discussion will remain live for some time to come. But for the moment, I have to go and adult, or my own family is in danger of getting a new-gen refrigerator-parent, if I don't step away from this computer.

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Allen H's avatar

Just a general comment. Congratulations on your CDC board appointment

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Barbara Lee's avatar

Thank you Dr Malone . This was a great discussion ! Nice to see the topic treated with all the nuance it deserves. As a special education teacher and part of the assessment team that evaluated thousands of kids in the Glendale, California area, I can say that “Yes, there was an incentive to over-diagnose and then under remediate especially students with learning disorders, like dyslexia, spelling and writing delays . However, autism, even high functioning, is very very hard to miss. They stand out like a giant swollen purple thumb.” We simply did not give ASD diagnosis to kids who weren’t really being stopped dead in their learning tracks.

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Ubetcha's avatar

Lots of graphs, lots of excuses, lots of confusion. Yet I was very surprised at the end of the article, one small sentence. One small sentence that casually mentions the control groups. The verifiable proof that for some reason is never studied, never funded.

"The Amish and Orthodox Jews show strikingly lower rates, hinting that both culture and vaccination patterns might matter, though our very observation risks distorting their realities."

The damning proof that it is in fact the populations that do not vaccinate, show virtually no indications of autism. They also are not dying from measles, mumps, Rubella or any of the other "deadly diseases" that "vaccines" save us from .

The other fundamental fact of the matter is "vaccines", and the damage they cause, are protected by law from liability.

These two facts are all anyone needs to know about the reality of "vaccines".

We know the solution. Remove the liability shields, Remove the mandates. Let the "cures" stand on their own. We, and the companies who make billions off these products, know they're don't work. They are not safe and further they do not provide prevention.

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