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Civil Westman's avatar

Thank you for these informative insights. Taken with many other threads of parallel, intertwining and intersecting warps and wefts, it becomes possible to glimpse patterns in the modern tapestry of our privileged lives; to understand a bit more context and eventually even to tease out a few golden strands of meaning. Such is the great value of this site. I am so very grateful to its creators and contributors (of all species)!

Chris's avatar

When I was young I used to hunt feral pigs on ranches in the NorCal area of rolling oat grass hills studded with large black oaks. The targets were the year old 100 lb shoats that had not yet started breeding. The red delicious meat was the polar opposite to PSE factory pork. Now I just source my pork from 'hippy farms' that run pasture raised pigs. Not a close second but good enough. I source my beef steaks from the northern Sierra Madre mountains of Mexico above Hermosillo. Until you eat this product you will not know what prime grade beef is actually supposed to taste like! (ps: the Romans and Druids were curing meats with potassium nitrite, aka saltpeter, 2000 years ago)

Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

Comes down to we are not an agrarian society. So access to the few "naturally" processed meats is limited and price a big consideration especially on those of us living SS check ti SS check. And anything labeled organic generally much more expensive and given the widespread use of pesticides nearly impossible to guarantee free from wind blown contamination.

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

Plus water born contamination of pesticide run off. People still do fish and many elderly depend on fishing as part of their diets. That brings up the commercial fishing industry and farm raised fish and shrimp. A good subject for more episodes.

D D's avatar

Micheal, I know food price is a concern, and I weigh the pros for organic over the potential health problems in not choosing wisely. I too live on SS...

Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

And,food not the only expense skyrocketing

Evil Incarnate's avatar

Processed meat?

They take a bunch of chicken parts, wad em' up, and call them chicken tenders.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Very informative! The question it raised in my mind is "What is the impact of chronic consumption of sodium nitrite on heart function? Is it a contributing factor to the loss of almost 1 million Americans annually?

Chris's avatar

'chronic' consumption of about anything will lead you to an early grave.

V Walton's avatar

Informative series. Look forward to the next part. Thank you.

Celia M Paddock's avatar

My mom's baby brother died as a toddler after consuming commercially (but improperly) canned fish. That was in 1928. Improvements in food safety are not something to dismiss or take for granted.

D D's avatar
1hEdited

I think it is worthy to include the indigenous Native and how they knew and used many techniques for preservation. They were often nomadic and also needed to plan for the winter months. I've known and avoided synthetic nitrites for quite a while. Nasty stuff.

Jean's avatar

Thank you for this thoughtful series! Already it's clear that the product evolution is highly likely to impact on our health. That the related knowledge and implications can be very beneficial, enabling us to select products and frequencies to best meet our needs and long term wellbeing.

One would further conclude these analyses could/should lead to more focused public health oversight and recommendations. One anticipates animals and practices will continue to evolve. So far you haven't covered potential impacts of medications, vaccinations and recent crisper interventions employed in pursuit of animal health. One assumes all will impact the benefits and risks of what we will be eating will be affected.

Looking forward to part 3! and sharing! Again thank you much!

Robert Wistedt's avatar

Maybe we should just start eating "CRICKETS"

pabloD's avatar

I shared this with my wife, Annalisa Kennedy Deering … daughter of Peter Kennedy, Vet. Pathologist, who you undoubtedly ran into at UCD. He was a great foodie, and taught me all about wine.