As you are one one well-schooled in the devious ways of government agencies, I was surprised to read that you felt you had "no reason to distrust" the CDC's presentation. That being said, I can certainly allow for the fact that the CDC scientists can be quite persuasive, and that not all of them are bad people or dishonest scientists. However, when so many Americans have lost trust in the CDC and other parts of HHS, RFK Jr.'s advent notwithstanding, it is a stretch to see how one with as much discernment as yourself could be misled. Kudos to you for acknowledging the fact. Still, I hope that you and the ACIP committee has now learned its lesson about whether the CDC is in future to be trusted or not. As one who has been burned, I would counsel that no rock be left unturned in looking for chicanery, manipulation of data and dishonesty by federal scientists. It appears to be their M.O.
Amen...under our own noses the ACIP and MAHA are laughing at us new ignoramuses that have to get vaxes...so much better to trick emotional new parents into saying yes to new drugs to inject into their newborn. And if they say no...label them and scorn them...shame them...perhaps stone them. I'm fed up with the so-called medical community pushing all these drugs and shots...drug pushers...worse than street drug pushers. IMO.
How many fingers am I showing behind my back? A tricky situation, to be sure. But if the CDC is declared at the outset to be completely untrustworthy (and IMH layman's O they are), isn't the purpose of the presentation...the meeting... the committee also called into question? What other agency would stand in for them for the assigned role? Perhaps the answer lies in prompt, meaningful consequences for any and all CDC employees deemed guilty of willful misconduct, to be administered by the new sheriff in town. Or that as a matter of procedure, such decisions should not be forced on committee members with opacity, on short notice.
Well stated. Those 3-4 letter agencies are rubber stamps to the drug cartels...the legal drug cartels. At least we can arrest the illegal drug cartels.
If there is a CDC, let those who hear its counsel have high levels of skepticism about its data, and its scientific integrity. There are those who say that we should get rid of the CDC. I do not advocate for this, but I think the idea has some merit, and might be a good one. It deserves further study, should anyone be inclined to do that study.
I have had a few former CDC data analysts and FDA employees as patients (would be called “silent generation” and a few “baby boomers”). After my introduction to review medications and deprescribe as able and appropriate, they would open up and tell me about their careers. Openly felt they could discuss the corruption of the system and changes that occurred over time. The CDC has a campaign slogan I was told about as a geriatric provider called “moving the needle” Are you kidding me…..😡
The mortality rate of infants on their first day of life in the US is worse than in most Third World Countries. The Medical Industry is like any other industry...it is out to sell its products and make money. Unfortunately products are not the health answers that people need. The health of the people in the United States has steadily gone downhill for generations, because our government has focused its attention on industries, which ply it with money. It has permitted these industries to do their own bogus research and many products have entered the marketplace, which endangered the user. The Medical Industry has NO correlation with the word health. Our government has done nothing to provide valid health research or stop industries from promoting products that are destroying the health of Americans.
"The Medical Industry is like any other industry...it is out to sell its products and make money. "
The vaccine side does not fit that description. It is a criminal enterprise, like the street drug industry, where deaths due to product consumption is deemed OK, as there are more suckers out there to take the product.
“The mortality rate of infants on their first day of life in the US is worse than in most Third World Countries.” — wow, did not know this and thanks for sharing.
It was not like this back in the 1940s...when I was growing up. In the 1950s, the Well Baby program started and the vax promotion started. I was a young naive mother at the time...and my child was given shots, which could have killed him. It is a miracle he survived. When i called the doctor, because he ran a 106 degree temperature and was screaming...The doctor said that it was natural. It showed the vaccines were working. Bring your baby in tomorrow morning, if he is still fussy. " After walking with him in my arms all night, we both collapsed in the morning...and this happened more than once. I thought that i was being a good parent protecting him with these shots.
Wow, that must have been both frightening and exhausting. 106 natural? You have moved the corrupt Pharma involvement back a few years in my mind. Thanks for all of your efforts to inform!
Agree...but also highlights again part of the problem with the entire drug/pharma/alpha-agency issue...mostly rubber stamping new vaxxes for the people to be REQUIRED to take. Too young to consent? Force the parents to make a decision to inject their newborn with a new drug...marvelous. For many of us non-medical citizens, I just want all you so-called experts that pretend to play God, to quit REQUIRING us citizens to take any shot. Until the laws and practices are changed that you are not shunned for not taking, my perspective is put a moratorium on ANY new or existing vaxxes...that would get them moving.
For those curious about an on the ground report of what it’s like for practicing pediatricians when a pharmacist rep comes by the office to make the case for the new RSV treatments, I wrote up my very memorable encounter here:
In addition to all the comments above, two more flaws in the studies, follow my link for more:
1. When it comes to explaining away the deaths in the treatment arm, the study discounts several of the deaths because they are in very sickly kids. As in, sure, they died, but let’s face it, they were on death’s door anyways… But the whole selling point of the drug, the whole purpose of it, is to protect those vulnerable kiddos! You can’t roll out a drug aimed at high-risk kids while simultaneously pooh-pooing their deaths since they’re so sickly. It’s great that no healthy, strong 5 year olds are going to die from your drug, but they’re not going to be given the drug in the first place since they’re so strong and healthy they’re not worried about RSV…
2. The company did enroll a cohort of high risk kids to test the safety of the drug. But in that cohort they explicitly say they did not test its efficacy. Why? Because they tested the efficacy on the healthy kids, and they figure, well, kids are kids, so if it works in healthy kids it’ll work in sickly ones, too, right? Well, maybe. But isn’t the whole point of the study to see if it works in the most vulnerable? You can’t just assume your conclusion.
I truly respect your writing, your educated/valuable opinion and your concern. You added in a meaningful way. Please continue to be an advocate for the young on healthy change here and in the public space. Much needed, much appreciated
"The key issue here is not causality but transparency." That's a bit too tame. The issue here is a wanton and willful fudging of the numbers, to thereby deceive ACIP and the public about the safety of this violation of true science for the purpose of economic gain.
Thank you for sharing this information. It is definitely concerning to read that the data shared was not fully represented in all aspects of the specific testing. I do not have any trust in the CDC, or the FDA, with any vaccine testing. A healthy newborn should not be given any vaccine or drugs-period.
Amen...amen. However...what do us citizens know? We're all just a bunch of know-nothings that cannot live without big pharma/alphabet agencies forcing us to take drugs so that we are all so unhealthy we want even more drugs...so we cannot stage a revolution!
Amen! Absolutely agree with you! I finally realized that all big pharma companies want is power & control over humans lives, as they continue to manipulate lobbyists to keep pushing the drugs they make, & the money they rake in is astronomical. No more vaccines for my Grand daughters; my Daughter & Son-in-Law said , "No More"! They opted out of required school vaccines, & what a headache & mounds of paperwork that was. Thank you for your response!
that first meeting was a very dicey affair. Extremely short notice, intense corporate media attacks, particularly on me and Bobby. I was advised/requested to play nice. Now I know much more and what were concerns are now validated. But I had to start off with the presumption of good faith. And now I have targeted intimidation by Senator Blumenthal, which is illegal, and the follow on wrap up smears in corporate media calling for me to be fired from a volunteer, unpaid position. This is a tightrope.
Dr. Malone, I hope the ACIP listen more to Prof. Retsef Levi. You have stated that he is brilliant in his field. After reading all of the findings, they are so numerous as to cause more than a little concern about the rushed meeting and no time to delve into the findings presented. I hope that doesn't happen again, this is too important to rush.
Sorry to know that you and many others that speak the truth are targeted by the Big. Medicine money machine. Cassidy and Blumenthal must go. Unfortunately there are others that will pick up the gauntlet in their place.
I got an email from Cassidy asking for donations. If I'm identifying and recalling right, the time is now. He's up for reelection. Time to sweep him out the door.
Agree...dicey indeed. Remember the old saying...“Pioneers take the arrows, settlers take the land”. You accepting the role at ACIP I'm sure you know it will be another permanent life changing event for you. I don't envy your role. If I was smarter medically frankly I would love your role (me as an entrepreneur with a back full of arrows) and I think you're a patriot for taking the role and now the modern day Paul Revere...you will continue to have arrows pointed toward you forever, IMO...hopefully none are fatal. Stay strong as you are fighting the good fight. Be damned with the naysayers, but do fight them like you do. Liars lie 24/7.
The "Once Burned, Twice Shy" can be updated to "Once Burned, Twice Learned". I have no doubt the ACIP is now on high alert to the falsehoods, run arounds and shyster tactics.
I remember as a youngster, my dad made my sister and myself pick bushel baskets of weeds for a nickle each. I was not a happy camper, so I rigged my basket with twigs half way up.
Now, you can say I was ingenious (I thought so)) or you can say I was cheating. Dad, being no fool, caught me in the act the 1st time. Bottom line - no nickle, longer sentence.
Dear Dr. Malone: You, sir, like the most reluctant but very brave warriors of the First American Revolution, are doing battle in the New American Revolution. It IS our new and most crucial battle and I cherish your sacrifice. As a believer and foot soldier in your service, I will continue to do any and all necessary to move forward and claim victory in this most important of causes. We MUST have change, We MUST route out the enemy, We MUST have truth and We MUST succeed!
I am sure you get weary, you feel the stings, the blows, the cuts, you hear the slander and maligning against your character and many times you must consider that one more day is one day too many. Please know many of us are here in the background mentally throwing all we can toward you and the other Generals doing the Battle for Truth in Medicine. I am going to borrow a phrase heard often, but with a slight change.
So what else is new? Statistical manipulation by big Pharma companies is a fine art form and has been their forte for decades in getting marginal and deadly drugs approved.. The basic issue should be how well are the FDA reviewers vetted for mastering the art of statistics analysis? Only the most deadly drugs have been removed from the market over the last half century and too many are still on the market with black box warnings. The one that stands out that is a cosmetic and has a black box warning is Botox. Read the book. NoTox by McCue.
We must all keep a close watch on these intentionally created and abused "blind spots" that have been embedded into our system, because therein lies the root of all evil being done to America and humanity~! Keep up the great work identifying the evil structure and those of evil intentions~!
Yes, you are not far away from the way folks should think & behave...
As an old American Constitutionalist, I have learned the hard bloody and brutal way that it is foolish to "trust" anyone or anything but God~! However, verifying beforehand is ALWAYS the right thing to do, as long as "we" remain vigilant and refuse to become complacent~! Be VERY aware and fight ANY efforts to render America a "cashless society" when the new economic system is rolled out, because the ability to have cash is the ONLY thing that facilitates our economic freedom and therefore ALL of our Individual Constitutional rights~!!! Keep the faith my fellow American Patriot~! This is going to be an historic year, and it looks like "we" (Americans and folks worldwide) will soon be on the right track~! Sincerely, Mike
Dr. Malone, thanks for this! We need to pay attention to the studies and data being shown to inform decisions and this article shows ALOT!
There’s a lot of dangers and side effects that need to be called out, but sounds like the ACIP didn’t focus here — and still move forward with their recommendations.
Thankfully someone was honest and concerned enough to come forward, we need more of that. And we need less of the "those deaths are unrelated, don't look over there" mindset.
I am not a doctor, nor a nurse, nor a scientist. But I am a retired M.ed of children with Autism, and other illnesses that were a result of autism. I thought I was a good mother, but when the pediatrician with the good reputation, told me that my tiny (weighing 6 lbs 4 oz. at birth) baby was going to receive the small pox vaccine at 5 months, I was smart enough to say "Don't you think he is too young and small to do that so early?" He said "no, he'll be fine". A few days after, my beautiful baby boy had the small pox! I was pissed. Now, I am old, retired from teaching children subjected to autism. Some parents suspected the vaccines. They were correct. I was pissed. I am also a great grandmother. After my great daughter was born and my daughter called me, the first thing I asked "Have they given her vaccines yet"? Yes, my daughter said, She was barely 12 hours old. I am still pissed. Things are not getting better- only worse! That you got burned doesn't make me feel better, as I will continue to be pissed. We won't need to worry about China. We need to destroy the CDC, NIH, FDA and big Pharma gods, as we blow up the swamp. You are either for us, or against us. Pick your side and stick to it. Evil doesn't change. It's come to kill, steal and destroy, and it's held on pretty well.
As you are one one well-schooled in the devious ways of government agencies, I was surprised to read that you felt you had "no reason to distrust" the CDC's presentation. That being said, I can certainly allow for the fact that the CDC scientists can be quite persuasive, and that not all of them are bad people or dishonest scientists. However, when so many Americans have lost trust in the CDC and other parts of HHS, RFK Jr.'s advent notwithstanding, it is a stretch to see how one with as much discernment as yourself could be misled. Kudos to you for acknowledging the fact. Still, I hope that you and the ACIP committee has now learned its lesson about whether the CDC is in future to be trusted or not. As one who has been burned, I would counsel that no rock be left unturned in looking for chicanery, manipulation of data and dishonesty by federal scientists. It appears to be their M.O.
Amen...under our own noses the ACIP and MAHA are laughing at us new ignoramuses that have to get vaxes...so much better to trick emotional new parents into saying yes to new drugs to inject into their newborn. And if they say no...label them and scorn them...shame them...perhaps stone them. I'm fed up with the so-called medical community pushing all these drugs and shots...drug pushers...worse than street drug pushers. IMO.
How many fingers am I showing behind my back? A tricky situation, to be sure. But if the CDC is declared at the outset to be completely untrustworthy (and IMH layman's O they are), isn't the purpose of the presentation...the meeting... the committee also called into question? What other agency would stand in for them for the assigned role? Perhaps the answer lies in prompt, meaningful consequences for any and all CDC employees deemed guilty of willful misconduct, to be administered by the new sheriff in town. Or that as a matter of procedure, such decisions should not be forced on committee members with opacity, on short notice.
Well stated. Those 3-4 letter agencies are rubber stamps to the drug cartels...the legal drug cartels. At least we can arrest the illegal drug cartels.
If there is a CDC, let those who hear its counsel have high levels of skepticism about its data, and its scientific integrity. There are those who say that we should get rid of the CDC. I do not advocate for this, but I think the idea has some merit, and might be a good one. It deserves further study, should anyone be inclined to do that study.
Mark, sorry to hear about you being burned. Thanks for sharing your story with us and your thoughts
I have had a few former CDC data analysts and FDA employees as patients (would be called “silent generation” and a few “baby boomers”). After my introduction to review medications and deprescribe as able and appropriate, they would open up and tell me about their careers. Openly felt they could discuss the corruption of the system and changes that occurred over time. The CDC has a campaign slogan I was told about as a geriatric provider called “moving the needle” Are you kidding me…..😡
Fitting slogan for an organization that appears to regard the population as human pin cushions.
Well said.
The mortality rate of infants on their first day of life in the US is worse than in most Third World Countries. The Medical Industry is like any other industry...it is out to sell its products and make money. Unfortunately products are not the health answers that people need. The health of the people in the United States has steadily gone downhill for generations, because our government has focused its attention on industries, which ply it with money. It has permitted these industries to do their own bogus research and many products have entered the marketplace, which endangered the user. The Medical Industry has NO correlation with the word health. Our government has done nothing to provide valid health research or stop industries from promoting products that are destroying the health of Americans.
"The Medical Industry is like any other industry...it is out to sell its products and make money. "
The vaccine side does not fit that description. It is a criminal enterprise, like the street drug industry, where deaths due to product consumption is deemed OK, as there are more suckers out there to take the product.
“The mortality rate of infants on their first day of life in the US is worse than in most Third World Countries.” — wow, did not know this and thanks for sharing.
I imagine it’s because we vaccinate IMMEDIATELY which resulting in sudden infant syndrome which is addressed here: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/how-sids-became-the-perfect-cover
It was not like this back in the 1940s...when I was growing up. In the 1950s, the Well Baby program started and the vax promotion started. I was a young naive mother at the time...and my child was given shots, which could have killed him. It is a miracle he survived. When i called the doctor, because he ran a 106 degree temperature and was screaming...The doctor said that it was natural. It showed the vaccines were working. Bring your baby in tomorrow morning, if he is still fussy. " After walking with him in my arms all night, we both collapsed in the morning...and this happened more than once. I thought that i was being a good parent protecting him with these shots.
Wow, that must have been both frightening and exhausting. 106 natural? You have moved the corrupt Pharma involvement back a few years in my mind. Thanks for all of your efforts to inform!
This is why I follow you. Thank you for being honest.
Agree...but also highlights again part of the problem with the entire drug/pharma/alpha-agency issue...mostly rubber stamping new vaxxes for the people to be REQUIRED to take. Too young to consent? Force the parents to make a decision to inject their newborn with a new drug...marvelous. For many of us non-medical citizens, I just want all you so-called experts that pretend to play God, to quit REQUIRING us citizens to take any shot. Until the laws and practices are changed that you are not shunned for not taking, my perspective is put a moratorium on ANY new or existing vaxxes...that would get them moving.
The take home message to me is that the SOBs, including the docs, are killing babies to make money. That in polite company is called murder.
Agree...thx for being bold enough to speak/write frankly.
Thank you, Dr. Malone, for telling us.
Thank you for this! So helpful!
For those curious about an on the ground report of what it’s like for practicing pediatricians when a pharmacist rep comes by the office to make the case for the new RSV treatments, I wrote up my very memorable encounter here:
https://gaty.substack.com/p/uncuriouser-and-uncuriouser
In addition to all the comments above, two more flaws in the studies, follow my link for more:
1. When it comes to explaining away the deaths in the treatment arm, the study discounts several of the deaths because they are in very sickly kids. As in, sure, they died, but let’s face it, they were on death’s door anyways… But the whole selling point of the drug, the whole purpose of it, is to protect those vulnerable kiddos! You can’t roll out a drug aimed at high-risk kids while simultaneously pooh-pooing their deaths since they’re so sickly. It’s great that no healthy, strong 5 year olds are going to die from your drug, but they’re not going to be given the drug in the first place since they’re so strong and healthy they’re not worried about RSV…
2. The company did enroll a cohort of high risk kids to test the safety of the drug. But in that cohort they explicitly say they did not test its efficacy. Why? Because they tested the efficacy on the healthy kids, and they figure, well, kids are kids, so if it works in healthy kids it’ll work in sickly ones, too, right? Well, maybe. But isn’t the whole point of the study to see if it works in the most vulnerable? You can’t just assume your conclusion.
I truly respect your writing, your educated/valuable opinion and your concern. You added in a meaningful way. Please continue to be an advocate for the young on healthy change here and in the public space. Much needed, much appreciated
Thank you!
Question: do you think ivermectin would be a suitable treatment for RSV if given at onset?
I’m sorry, I have no idea!
"The key issue here is not causality but transparency." That's a bit too tame. The issue here is a wanton and willful fudging of the numbers, to thereby deceive ACIP and the public about the safety of this violation of true science for the purpose of economic gain.
Agree...trickery and deceit.
Thank you for sharing this information. It is definitely concerning to read that the data shared was not fully represented in all aspects of the specific testing. I do not have any trust in the CDC, or the FDA, with any vaccine testing. A healthy newborn should not be given any vaccine or drugs-period.
Amen...amen. However...what do us citizens know? We're all just a bunch of know-nothings that cannot live without big pharma/alphabet agencies forcing us to take drugs so that we are all so unhealthy we want even more drugs...so we cannot stage a revolution!
Amen! Absolutely agree with you! I finally realized that all big pharma companies want is power & control over humans lives, as they continue to manipulate lobbyists to keep pushing the drugs they make, & the money they rake in is astronomical. No more vaccines for my Grand daughters; my Daughter & Son-in-Law said , "No More"! They opted out of required school vaccines, & what a headache & mounds of paperwork that was. Thank you for your response!
So you’ve reversed your previous recommendation?? Please clarify & please explain why you believed the CDC, in the 1st place.
that first meeting was a very dicey affair. Extremely short notice, intense corporate media attacks, particularly on me and Bobby. I was advised/requested to play nice. Now I know much more and what were concerns are now validated. But I had to start off with the presumption of good faith. And now I have targeted intimidation by Senator Blumenthal, which is illegal, and the follow on wrap up smears in corporate media calling for me to be fired from a volunteer, unpaid position. This is a tightrope.
not to say that the next meeting is likely to be a walk in the park by any means.
Dr. Malone, I hope the ACIP listen more to Prof. Retsef Levi. You have stated that he is brilliant in his field. After reading all of the findings, they are so numerous as to cause more than a little concern about the rushed meeting and no time to delve into the findings presented. I hope that doesn't happen again, this is too important to rush.
Sorry to know that you and many others that speak the truth are targeted by the Big. Medicine money machine. Cassidy and Blumenthal must go. Unfortunately there are others that will pick up the gauntlet in their place.
I got an email from Cassidy asking for donations. If I'm identifying and recalling right, the time is now. He's up for reelection. Time to sweep him out the door.
Agree...dicey indeed. Remember the old saying...“Pioneers take the arrows, settlers take the land”. You accepting the role at ACIP I'm sure you know it will be another permanent life changing event for you. I don't envy your role. If I was smarter medically frankly I would love your role (me as an entrepreneur with a back full of arrows) and I think you're a patriot for taking the role and now the modern day Paul Revere...you will continue to have arrows pointed toward you forever, IMO...hopefully none are fatal. Stay strong as you are fighting the good fight. Be damned with the naysayers, but do fight them like you do. Liars lie 24/7.
You can do it!
The "Once Burned, Twice Shy" can be updated to "Once Burned, Twice Learned". I have no doubt the ACIP is now on high alert to the falsehoods, run arounds and shyster tactics.
I remember as a youngster, my dad made my sister and myself pick bushel baskets of weeds for a nickle each. I was not a happy camper, so I rigged my basket with twigs half way up.
Now, you can say I was ingenious (I thought so)) or you can say I was cheating. Dad, being no fool, caught me in the act the 1st time. Bottom line - no nickle, longer sentence.
Great analogy!
Dear Dr. Malone: You, sir, like the most reluctant but very brave warriors of the First American Revolution, are doing battle in the New American Revolution. It IS our new and most crucial battle and I cherish your sacrifice. As a believer and foot soldier in your service, I will continue to do any and all necessary to move forward and claim victory in this most important of causes. We MUST have change, We MUST route out the enemy, We MUST have truth and We MUST succeed!
I am sure you get weary, you feel the stings, the blows, the cuts, you hear the slander and maligning against your character and many times you must consider that one more day is one day too many. Please know many of us are here in the background mentally throwing all we can toward you and the other Generals doing the Battle for Truth in Medicine. I am going to borrow a phrase heard often, but with a slight change.
We Can Overcome.
So what else is new? Statistical manipulation by big Pharma companies is a fine art form and has been their forte for decades in getting marginal and deadly drugs approved.. The basic issue should be how well are the FDA reviewers vetted for mastering the art of statistics analysis? Only the most deadly drugs have been removed from the market over the last half century and too many are still on the market with black box warnings. The one that stands out that is a cosmetic and has a black box warning is Botox. Read the book. NoTox by McCue.
Good work Dr. Malone~!
We must all keep a close watch on these intentionally created and abused "blind spots" that have been embedded into our system, because therein lies the root of all evil being done to America and humanity~! Keep up the great work identifying the evil structure and those of evil intentions~!
Sincerely, Mike
In all things…trust, but verify.
Yes, you are not far away from the way folks should think & behave...
As an old American Constitutionalist, I have learned the hard bloody and brutal way that it is foolish to "trust" anyone or anything but God~! However, verifying beforehand is ALWAYS the right thing to do, as long as "we" remain vigilant and refuse to become complacent~! Be VERY aware and fight ANY efforts to render America a "cashless society" when the new economic system is rolled out, because the ability to have cash is the ONLY thing that facilitates our economic freedom and therefore ALL of our Individual Constitutional rights~!!! Keep the faith my fellow American Patriot~! This is going to be an historic year, and it looks like "we" (Americans and folks worldwide) will soon be on the right track~! Sincerely, Mike
Dr. Malone, thanks for this! We need to pay attention to the studies and data being shown to inform decisions and this article shows ALOT!
There’s a lot of dangers and side effects that need to be called out, but sounds like the ACIP didn’t focus here — and still move forward with their recommendations.
Glad to have this breakdown.
PS: this is the same analogy used on older drugs like Vioxx and Tamiflu. Weak data that gets approved but later causes damages— only after the profits are made: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-power-of-the-clinical-trial-big
My father-in-law used to say: Figures don't lie but liars figure.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics...
Thankfully someone was honest and concerned enough to come forward, we need more of that. And we need less of the "those deaths are unrelated, don't look over there" mindset.
Thank you, Dr. Malone
I am not a doctor, nor a nurse, nor a scientist. But I am a retired M.ed of children with Autism, and other illnesses that were a result of autism. I thought I was a good mother, but when the pediatrician with the good reputation, told me that my tiny (weighing 6 lbs 4 oz. at birth) baby was going to receive the small pox vaccine at 5 months, I was smart enough to say "Don't you think he is too young and small to do that so early?" He said "no, he'll be fine". A few days after, my beautiful baby boy had the small pox! I was pissed. Now, I am old, retired from teaching children subjected to autism. Some parents suspected the vaccines. They were correct. I was pissed. I am also a great grandmother. After my great daughter was born and my daughter called me, the first thing I asked "Have they given her vaccines yet"? Yes, my daughter said, She was barely 12 hours old. I am still pissed. Things are not getting better- only worse! That you got burned doesn't make me feel better, as I will continue to be pissed. We won't need to worry about China. We need to destroy the CDC, NIH, FDA and big Pharma gods, as we blow up the swamp. You are either for us, or against us. Pick your side and stick to it. Evil doesn't change. It's come to kill, steal and destroy, and it's held on pretty well.