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Belloc's avatar

1. Now we know why the Malones are excellent homesteaders.

2. Due to the persecution they endured from telling the truth during the pandemic, they should go direct to consumer but exempted permanently from all burdensome costs. That's the least Trump can do...kinda like Bidens blanket auto pen pardon but this would be an EO or some other legal maneuver.

3. Prayers ongoing for Cara and Filly. We keep praying Cara is going to pull through and Filly needs his mom. 🙏

Randall Stoehr's avatar

The topics they take the grand efforts to share here,

are worth every penny the price of annual admission.

The memes on Friday/Sunday are the dessert topping.

Belloc's avatar

Oh absolutely! 7.00 is not enough. I need to send them a donation to cover credit card fees. Cuz 7.00 is really 6 something. I think they should go up to 10.00 a month.

Jean's avatar

If they have Cara settled there may be Cara, her filly and the next foal in line. Praying for the owners and full brood. Thank you for your remembering the concerns for us all.

K. Young's avatar

Great article. While it might not work for city dwellers or lightly populated areas, for much of suburbia what about the return of the local butcher shop? It passes the 7 tests (maybe #5 is a question, but the butcher's own reputation depends on the quality so he's incentivized to verify). At least the butcher earns his middleman profit. Carl Menger might approve.

ron's avatar

Local butcher shops haven't disappeared. I live in the suburbs, and I know of at least three.

K. Young's avatar

Lucky! We had a great one in Denver, Western Daughters. Pricey but worth it. Now we're near a smaller town and have a co-op which is a Godsend. Another one of those lost trades which needs a comeback. Large packers lobbied the small guys out of business. Systematic elimination by making the cost to process a few dozen animals a week crushing. And as soon as the packers moved into fabrication, they were pocketing any savings that should have gone to consumers. Shame.

Garry Blankenship's avatar

There was a system in use before all of Government regulation which provided life for all of us living today. How is it any of us live today when our ancestors had no vaccines, injections, homogenization, preservatives, etc.. I do not blame regulation alone, but I do blame the coopting of regulation. I prefer to trust a farmer I know over Government's approval of a farmer I know.

And Noddy's avatar

I see the penny dropping, Trump's 'America First ' doesn't include small business. Red or Blue, Big Business First.

Danielle J. Duperret, ND/PhD's avatar

It seems always more complicated than it appears at first glance. Thank you for the in-depth study. Since moving to MO, I've been able to buy meat from local people. I can visit their establishments. I grew up in Switzerland, where we shopped at local butcher shops. Some still do exist, although most have been bought by bigger grocery stores. Trust in anything is becoming a real issue. The meaning of honesty and integrity has shifted, and often does not mean what it used to. Greed and/or necessity have become part of a transaction.

Melanie Reynolds's avatar

That is why you find someone who raises cows and buy 1/2 or 1/4 beef from them.

D D's avatar

There are a few things I find interesting and confusing. Why Virginia and other states don't take advantage of the Cooperative Interstate Shipment program and how is the Kosher determination so steady in it's mark? There seems to be an ethics and honesty problem widespread except for a few outliers. The Amish are one./ I belong to a store co-op and have an ownership share. Depending on how much we spend, we get a check once a year and ownership discounts, as well as a monthly discount as well as a Tues. seniors discount. I have talked to the General Manager numerous times about concerns and questions and he is responsive and proactive where possible. They offer many visits to the farms where they source many of their products and I still pay close attention to what is carried. For city dwellers this has got to be one of the better offerings for food of all kinds.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Back around 1992 I asked the President of Walgreens how will we compete against Amazon who was not charging any sales tax. (now collecting some tax) In addition, Brick and mortar pays real estate taxes and much more and have a higher overhead. Not a level playing field. Faster forward 30 years and Amazon has swallowed many brick and mortar businesses. Food and Rx are their current targets. Shopping centers across the nation are being emptied of retailers. When drones delivering goods become common place, you will know brick and mortar is a dinosaur. Saw many Prime trucks on the way back to Chicago and drove though Gary Indiana where retail has long disappeared. Those who can migrate away from major cities and live in rural areas may re-invent the wheel and have local produced wholesome food. Embrace Wellness was promoting that concept at Polyface.

Lekimball's avatar

Not sure how this affects Butcher Box or Riverbend Ranch who were already shipping directly to customers. I guess if it opens up completely nobody will know a thing about quality.

Jean's avatar

Thank you for this well informed discussion. It leaves me to observations as you go along.

Death of grocery stores:

They do have tight margins, local abuse (I see the police were called to my local store/Giant to deal with a screaming shopper. There have been several gun robberies too). Thefts are rampant. On the other hand there is extensive foreign fresh product. Canned/frozen product from wide ranging sources. The better answer should be more dedicated coordinated sourcing from local producers. Having sufficient product in each store timely on a reliable basis could lend itself to a coordinated planning. My grocer uses personal customer contact with incentives via internet, mass media advertizing, and personal shopping for customer orders with pickup and delivery services.

My county for some unknown reason appears to own and operate numerous county recreational facilities. Of late they appear to be involving themselves with support of farmers within the county. Something about a new ag center. We do have farmers markets and the county fair. One upscale farmers market was offering direct meat sales.

I have/do purchase farm products from out of state sources. I receive catalogs from meat companies. Frozen meats and cooked offerings. They start from web sites. They send mailers, email and text ads. They offer memberships for recurring orders. One also has a number of local shops. Quality and service is generally good. There are also vendors of such products as nuts and fruit in season. All crossing state lines. For VA a shippable in addition to nuts and fruit might be honey.

Becoming a successful seller of agricultural products is clearly a complex issue. Capable advisory sources would be invaluable.

Thank you for your identifying so much and setting out the many issues to consider and more that need to be addressed!

David Merrill's avatar

Too many nitrates.

ANAGRAMS: State minoritany - Antimonian story

Of the two, I believe that the second is more appropriate. "Antimonian story (A tale relating to opposition to legalism)".

So why not do the slaughtering upstream from the gardening? I hear that nitrates are good for the soil. Most of the food animals graze anyway. Put all that grass back to work in the vegetable garden?

Soon as I got past the title I knew the snag was in the slaughtering. Slaughtering and preservation. The grocery store has a massive investment in refrigeration. The FDA regulates even the homesteader to prohibit ranching from home. That is to say, slaughtering is regulated.

Removal of regulation without being able to audit the ranch and slaughtering operation is why I am inedic, I suppose. If it smells, throw it out.

Just the same, my ATP and cristae operating many octaves above a dying yellow dwarf has many other advantages. https://youtu.be/HmxZiwT7Jcw

I 44n44nb4bt5n 54's avatar

No mention of Azure Standard? The bulk of our grocery expense.

Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

I would guess that all those states with state inspections are also states with land grant colleges/veterinary schools. Those schools likely source of state inspectors and may be the influence begins that impedes cooperation.